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flipper 
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 Topic: Corruption in cricketPosted: 08 June 2011 at 9:15am |
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The ICC have launched an investigation into allegations that spot-fix cheat Mohammad Aamer has defied his worldwide cricket ban — by playing for a club team in Surrey. The ICC spokesman Colin Gibson said: 'We are investigating and awaiting the details. If true, it is clearly a breach of the sanction imposed in February. The ban is absolutely worldwide covering all levels and any activities connected with cricket. 'What might happen next is a hypothetical question at this stage.' An ECB spokesman said: 'We are aware of this incident and we are investigating as a matter of urgency along with the ICC to see if this game falls under our jurisdiction.' |
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Posted: 08 June 2011 at 10:26am |
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And this on the day that a number of Australian sports (cricket included) have come together to push for up to ten-year jail sentences for those found guilty of corruption.
http://www.cricketworld.com/ten-year-jail-sentence-recommended-for-corruption/28187.htm |
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 08 June 2011 at 1:47pm |
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If it does fall under the already imposed ban - a life time ban would do no harm
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Max Power
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Posted: 08 June 2011 at 2:35pm |
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Amir has now admitted playing for Addington, but claims the team told him it was a friendly match and that it wouldn't fall under the terms of his suspension.
If that is true then he really is ignorant and probably shouldn't leave the house without someone to help him cross the road. 10 year ban methinks. Also if the Surrey league rules are anything like the Kent league rules then Addington are certainly in trouble too, as he was not eligible to play for them, having played a Test match for an overseas side within the last 3 seasons. |
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Leo Bao
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Posted: 10 June 2011 at 2:46am |
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Yes flipper is right.They still are trying to lie their way out and
lessen the penalty.In all likelyhood it clearly looks like they did
cheat. As I said , it would have been probably less penalty had they
accepted the truth earlier.Atleast now just accept the truth , follow
the procedure and come out clean.
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vote4peace
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Posted: 10 June 2011 at 5:50am |
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Not a smart move by any means. Shows his drive to play the game, appreciate that, but you cannot be blindly driven by plain passion. Someone needs to teach him to use his head more.
By the way heard he opened the innings and scored a 60 and later bowled seven over for figures of 4/9!!! What a shame!! |
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 10 June 2011 at 6:41am |
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His class and talent is not a question but his behavior is. His background isn't anything to boast of as a few guys who have played with him told me that Amir lived in a slum and spent most of his time on drugs when not playing cricket. Shame he has not learnt. somebody needs to tell him, he should respect the ban. Also, as rightly pointed out by MaxPower, that particular club also needs to be punished severely.
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Sledger
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Posted: 10 June 2011 at 8:51am |
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Asif just gets more stupid by the day - does he not know what a ban means ? I expect the ICC to slap his wrists , but there won't be any extension to the ban.
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 10 June 2011 at 9:42am |
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Just that it wasn't Asif Sledge. it was his parter in crime, Amir.
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Mikey
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Posted: 10 June 2011 at 10:29am |
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Like Zuhair has stated, he's a street kid, who's family probably lived off US$5 a day, if that and was probably on the streets selling whatever he could,probably drugs just to get by. In the Middle East I know drugs are rife... most youth indulge in hasish and what not in places like Egypt and Jordan, can't imagine Pakistan would be too different. Wouldn't surprise me if you find Amir involved in some crime in 5 years time after he's used up all his funds and has no where else to go. Sad.
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 10 June 2011 at 11:22am |
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Sad indeed.
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Max Power
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Posted: 10 June 2011 at 3:55pm |
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I'm sure he turned up to one of the ICC hearings wearing a T-shirt with a slogan "Legalise Cannabis"
Probably not the best way to get a fair hearing...! Edited by Max Power - 10 June 2011 at 3:55pm |
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spin wizard
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Posted: 10 June 2011 at 4:45pm |
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Poor Amir, me myself would have been tempted to play, yes, I could understand that part but mate, you do the crime, you do the time, simple as that. I feel sorry for you kid cause I know it's hard to stay away from playing but you're getting in the same league as Asif - Don't ever learn!! Someone needs to take this kid and keep him around them at all times!
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sam_ahmed
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Posted: 10 June 2011 at 6:39pm |
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I cannot see an extension in the ban as sledge has said but they might impose some heavy fine on him. If Aamer can prove that the club authorities assured him that it is not official then he can even get away with it. I think it is the club that needs to be punished not Aamer.
Also why can't Aamer just stay in Pakistan, the moment he goes to England he lands himself in trouble.  ... and guyz, have mercy on him. He has suffered a lot I'm sure he is not stupid enough to Play knowing it is an official game but yes he is very ignorant. Leave him alone, he is the only one who has a realistic chance of playing cricket again among those three, he won't do this knowingly.
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 11 June 2011 at 7:19am |
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Trust me Sam, he actually is stupid enough. Yes I feel for the man, but that's not how you deal with bans. Agreed, he is not the cleverest of guys, but he should at least consult his lawyers who he pays heavy fees. what a farce. The match turns out to be an official one - and I see Amir in more troubled waters ow.
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Mikey
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Posted: 11 June 2011 at 8:24am |
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Amir is finished forever, I'm sorry guys. He will not be back and he'll probably end up in prison or dead in the next 5 years. I envisage a somewhat similar fortune for Asif, he's a VERY shady character. Asif has ZERO integrity and I can't see why Amir is supposedly any different - just because he is 18 (which he probably isn't).
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vote4peace
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Posted: 11 June 2011 at 9:32am |
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It would be a shame if his ban were to be extended. I'm among those who think 5 years for spot fixing is punishment good enough, maybe even slightly harsh in Amir's case. The other two just shouldn't be allowed to return to cricket.
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I distrust a camel.. and anyone else who can go a week without a drink.
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spin wizard
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Posted: 11 June 2011 at 2:43pm |
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Asif especially deserves not to return!!!
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I knew that mate - blimey I've always had a problem with remembering names - which is why I call the wife "love" - it's safer !  |
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 13 June 2011 at 7:19am |
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Hahaha!!! This is gold!!
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sam_ahmed
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Posted: 19 June 2011 at 6:25am |
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http://zeenews.india.com/cricket/worldcup2011/story.aspx?nid=37016
By no means am I saying that this is ture, but I was wondering could this be true? This was on Zee News owned by the same man who started the ICL, but this article was sritten on 24th march before any of the WC QF's were played, and some of the points he has made there look very interesting, PAK topping the group, IRE beating ENG but losing to BAN (Host Nation), a final without India was unimaginable... and India winning! Again I am NOT saying it is true but just wondering ... Are we all fools?
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Sledger
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Posted: 04 October 2011 at 7:31am |
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The Pakistani trio of Butt , Amir and Asif are back in the spotlight from today , as their trial about spot-fixing starts in London. Their London based agent is also on trial facing the same charges of a conspiracy to cheat and receiving payment for bowling no-balls. All three were found guilty of spotfixing by an independent ICC led investigation , but this is more serious as British authorites are acting because of supposed criminal activities by the three whilst in the United Kingdom. If found guilty they could be imprisoned for a period of 2 to 7 years.
The trial is bound to be headline news throughout it's duration and I'm sure of interest to members of this forum. |
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 04 October 2011 at 7:34am |
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The only interest I have is that none of these should ever represent Pakistan again. I am certainly less concerned about the trial proceedings.
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Sledger
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Posted: 04 October 2011 at 7:38am |
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My interest in the trial proceedings will give some idea of just how much digging was done by the ICC in their investigation zuhair. If this trial uncovers more evidence of corruption , then the ICC will again be seen as a body who are loathe to clean up their own mess.
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 04 October 2011 at 7:42am |
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Did you not read the ICC report earlier Sledge? I guess it was not available in some parts of the world - but that report provided water tight evidence and the ICC did a pretty good job methinks (how often do we say this?).
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Sledger
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Posted: 04 October 2011 at 7:45am |
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I haven't seen it mate , I'll have a dig around and find it though !
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 04 October 2011 at 7:49am |
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I do have a copy in the PDF version. Is there nay way I could share it with you?
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spin wizard
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Posted: 04 October 2011 at 3:31pm |
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I was reading that same copy Zuhair but I can't remember if I ever finished reading it. Man, voh buhat bara pard raha tha
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sam_ahmed
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Posted: 04 October 2011 at 5:57pm |
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wow! impressive stuff Spinny, your Urdu / Hindi is improving by the day!!!
 Coming to spot fixing, guys, it is not a question of what wrong or how wrong have they done, They are not criminals guys, we see people committing murder and rape in broad day light and still roam free, here are three people from very good backgrounds who have lost everything they had because of one mistake. come one guys, we have a heart, don't we? I hope the jury doesn't punish them, a strict warning and a heavy fine would be justified nothing more than that. I admit they have done something wrong but I also think that they have been punished enough for it. We as human beings do make mistakes, it is not that they have committed a murder or something, I think we need to feel for them and I dearly hope they do NOT get a jail sentence. .
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spin wizard
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Posted: 04 October 2011 at 6:35pm |
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I'm with Sam on this one. Although I agree with a punishment or even life time ban if you want but at the end of the day, its not murder or anything close to that. I don't see the need for a Jail sentence here. Just the way I see it.
EDIT: And also ask them for the cash they got from doing it. If they don't have it, find it somehow. That will do the trick. Edited by spin wizard - 04 October 2011 at 6:36pm |
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