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    Posted: 20 February 2006 at 3:54am

After Dhoni's exploits against pakistan ,,, I feel this thread is required.

Dhoni is a rare natural talent ,,,after one full year in International circuit ,,, keeping an average above 52+ ,, and strike rate more than 107+ is no joke.

He seems to hit SIX's and FOUR's at will like NONE in world circket. [don't compare any flukes here with Dhoni]

Some people might say he has to prove in faster pitches of Aus,NZ,WI and Eng etc.-well let him get an opportunity first.

Anyways he average 50+ in Zimbabwe ....

After all this ,,, I would like to get the comment on ,,,, Is Dhoni approaching his Idol --> Gilchrist ?

Pls dont bring any other sick underperforming wicketkeeper into this thread.
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pitches dont mean anything who gives a crap if it has grass its the batsmens confidence that either gets them tons or ducks i think all that crap about australian pitches are fast and dhoni will struggle on it is crap
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Originally posted by ANIL KUMBLE

pitches dont mean anything who gives a crap if it has grass its the batsmens confidence that either gets them tons or ducks i think all that crap about australian pitches are fast and dhoni will struggle on it is crap

AK its true ,, that he has performed on Sub-continent pitches throught ,, but lone opportunity in Zim ,, he averaged 50+ is a nice sign ,, but the opponents were Zim and NZ....!

I do not have any doubts of Dhoni performing in Faster pitches against Aus , Eng and NZ in their own pitches ,,,!

Observe ,, he dosent miss too many in sub-continent ,,even when other are bit circumspect ,, it just means he is upto any challenge.

Just pray that the success does not go to his head ,,, god bless him..!  
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Gilchrist is head and shoulders above Dhoni. Perhaps in 10 years or so but i know i'd pick Gilly ahead of Dhoni. Also Gilly is a reliable keeper.
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jsut hit 4 massive sixes in last ODI,, he seems to hit whenever he wants ....
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All i can say is at the moment Dhoni is the most exiting player in the world to watch ,,, esp in batting.
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dhoni averaged over 200 in the odi series against pakistan this guys gonna make a huge impact in the world cup i mean huge
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Originally posted by ANIL KUMBLE

dhoni averaged over 200 in the odi series against pakistan this guys gonna make a huge impact in the world cup i mean huge
 

true ,,,, only other can hope that he will not perform ,, but he will definately outshine everyone 
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lets see if he can keep it up...KP has been struggling since his 100s in south africa so perhaps Dhoni might struggle!
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what just because kevin pieteirson struggled it dosent mean dhoni will by the way pieteirson hasnt really struggled
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no i'm comparing the two....both started off well in ODIs and tests. KP struggled in pakistan and currently...lots of 20s etc. Lets see Dhoni play in a non-asian country and see how he can handle the pitches (e.g. Australia and England)

he could be, supposedly, like Afridi who apparently cannot bat away but that is untrue as Majestic Khan showed us his stats when playing away.

Dhoni got some way to go still...ahead of him in the keeping section would be Gilly, Akmal, McCullum, Sangakarra, Boucher (probably)- not in a particular order.

One thing is, at the moment, he has a promising future.
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»

 Batsmen Bowlers All-rounders

 

1 Adam Gilchrist AUS
2 Ricky Ponting AUS
3 Mahendra Dhoni IND
4 Andrew Symonds AUS
5 Michael Clarke AUS
6 Kumar Sangakkara SL
7 Graeme Smith SA
8 Mike Hussey AUS
9 Yuvraj Singh IND
10 Rahul Dravid IND
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from officail icc site http://www.cricketratings.com/,,, watch out Dhoni has barged inbetween top four aussies ,,,,, that shows many a things ,,, even my THREAD topic is Justified
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5 aussies,3 indians,1 south africana and a sri lankan in the top 10 i dont know why graeme smith is still there
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Interesting to compare those with the CricketWorld MVP ratings:

 One Day International MVP ratings top 10  
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1
35.60
2
34.30
3
31.30
4
30.20
5
30.20
6
30.00
7
29.90
8
29.80
9
29.70
10
29.50
 
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21.90
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  SE Bond
20.60
3
  M Muralitharan
15.90
4
  GD McGrath
15.80
5
  NW Bracken
15.40
6
  B Lee
15.40
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  BA Williams
14.60
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  SM Pollock
14.20
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  M Ntini
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  RD King
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what the hell is brad williams doing there he hasnt played for australia ina ages how old is that thing
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This MVP sysytem is a real crap, there are a few players that havent featured in matches for some time , remmeber when pieterson last won a match for england, why is symonds not here, just too rubish!
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By the way why ganguly is still there, probably his exit has changed fortunes for India, so he is very valuable not playing for India!
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Originally posted by wiseguy

By the way why ganguly is still there, probably his exit has changed fortunes for India, so he is very valuable not playing for India!

MVP is scrap ,, so pls consider only ICC ratings
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i agree. dravid,yuvraj, sehwag, flintoff., lara. none of them. atleast sehwag should have been there
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gilchrist is going to retire after the next world cup. dhoni will cross him immediately after that..........................
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you have to chuckle at ANY system that puts Fidel Edwards in at No 1
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oh common get over this dhoni fever, i told you before let him make some runs on foreign soils and then we would consider to comment on any threads like this, .....................................

 
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oh common get over this dhoni fever, i told you before let him make some runs on foreign soils and then we would consider to comment on any threads like this, .....................................

come on ,,, you think he can't score on foreign pitches ,,,,, well pitches dont matter to Dhoni ,,, he is just an awsome hitter ever produced in World cricket ....

No surface or bowler matter to him ,,, and no ground is big enough for him .......he is a natual talent + Hard working individual that makes him one of the best in bussiness ......

He averaged more than 50 in Zim pitches ,,what more u want ,,,,,!

I know ,, the only way for all Dhoni haters is to say "Let him score the same in Foreign pitches" .

If you know the circketing history ,, a player who is consisten enough  in Subcontinent pitches plays in foreign pitches also....

Its the consistency that matters ,,,,, I agree there are some ppl like afridi ,,, who play on subcontinent pitches ,, but he is inconsistent in sub continent pitches also .... such players fail ,,, but not the players like Dhoni.

 
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oh common get over this dhoni fever, i told you before let him make some runs on foreign soils and then we would consider to comment on any threads like this, .....................................

come on ,,, you think he can't score on foreign pitches ,,,,, well pitches dont matter to Dhoni ,,, he is just an awsome hitter ever produced in World cricket ....

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I don't even care if Dhoni does well outside of the sub-continent because he's not even a proper batsman.
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