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sam_ahmed 
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 Topic: England in India (2012)Posted: 05 December 2012 at 7:17pm |
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at 273/7 definitely ENG will feel they have won the day, the first two sessions were pretty much even but the last session going ENG's way to leave India in trouble at 7 down.
ENG have a golden opportunity here, IND don't look like they'll make too many as genuine tailenders are already at the crease, if ENG can bat well and score big this could be a great chance for ENG to seal another win.
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Sledger
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Posted: 05 December 2012 at 9:29am |
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Alistair Cook is a useless tosser !! 3 successive wrong calls and India bat first yet again. The pitch is slow and both sides will be looking to score big in their first innings. Sehwag got himself run out to present England with their 1st wicket. Gambhir made another useful 60 and menacingly Tendulkar is still there on 69*. Not the old Tendulkar though , far more circumspect and I think England will feel pretty happy at the moment as Dhoni partners the little master , Indian 223-5 after 73 overs.
A couple more wickets and England will feel they've had the better of the 1st day. Edited by Sledger - 05 December 2012 at 9:29am |
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sam_ahmed
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Posted: 28 November 2012 at 6:10pm |
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Prior is another batsmen apart from Cook and KP who has looked good Zuhair, I do agree that Finn and Bell should come in but for Anderson and Baristow, I'd like to see Broad being persisted with.
I doubt if ENG will make any changes though, they may opt not to change a winning combination. One thing is for sure, India will be under tremendous pressure on day 1 at Kolkata, a bad day for India there and well, we could really see something special this series. Dhoni's captaincy in tests is already under a lot of scrutiny.
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 28 November 2012 at 6:29am |
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England is blessed to have a batsman as skillful as KP. Few shots he played of Ojha were just mesmerizing. His reach makes him so much better from the lot. That said, England still have a lot of grey areas - apart from cook and KP, they have not really shown signs of playing spin confidently. Bell needs to return, for he is a good player - but he too struggled in the UAE.
Will England drop Broad? Or as Sir Ian Botham said, the England dressing room may have become too 'matey - matey'? Bring in Bell and Finn - get rid of Bairstow and Broad. Surely, Kolkatta and Nagpur will be very slow and low pitches. It will play good for the first two days - but Monty especially will have to work twice as hard to get the some purchase. Of India's men - they will simply drop Harbhajan and play a pace bowler. A word on Pujara - the ore I watch him play, the more he impresses me. Maybe too early to call - but he seems a like to like replacement for Dravid. The way he keeps the eyes on the ball and never commits early on the front foot is just amazing. Edited by zuhair_abbasi - 28 November 2012 at 6:30am |
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Alfie103
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Posted: 26 November 2012 at 7:55pm |
India could fix this quite quickly and bring in DRS but for some reason they don't. Only got themselves to blame really. |
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MalhotraRaj84
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Posted: 26 November 2012 at 8:37am |
Great that series is locked at 1-1 now, but now going to next two matches I guess India will outplay England in next two matches,now that they are hurt big time. Get the feeling that all good innings by Cook and KP is over for rest of the series, just hope Trott does not raise to the ocassion.
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Posted: 26 November 2012 at 7:27am |
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Who'd have thought of a 10 wicket win and a 10 wicket win by England - certainly not me ! After a really poor year's cricket , they've finally shown why they were number 1 last year. KP's innings was out of this world - definitely the best I've seen any Englishman play in Asia. Monty Panesar's 11 wickets were fully deserved - he was far and away the best bowler on show in Mumbai. Getting Tendulkar twice with excellent deliveries gave the whole side a lift , especially as he fell cheaply on both occasions. Cook's ton was in sharp contrast to that of KP's .but just as important and allowed KP to free his arms. I think this win will give England the self-belief that's been missing for some time and they just might go on and win this series now.
One thing's for sure - Monty will be playing in the last 2 tests ! Edited by Sledger - 26 November 2012 at 7:32am |
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sam_ahmed
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Posted: 25 November 2012 at 11:23am |
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amazing stuff from Panesar and Swann, esp Panesar, why on earth did he not play at Ahmedabad???
ENG spinners have done better than India's, ENG's batsmen have done better than India's, if ENG don't win this from here, they'll never win anything in India. It cannot get easier than this for the English. as for MSD, I doubt if he will say anything about pitches again, may be sometimes it's good to just allow the curators to do their job and not instruct them too much!!! In search of home advantage IND perhaps had seriously underestimated Panesar and Swann!!!
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MalhotraRaj84
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Posted: 25 November 2012 at 11:20am |
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For India to have any sort of chance Gambhir should get a big one, while Bhajji has to pull out his 3rd century.
Gambhir was troubled , but he looks good for a fighting knock tomorow.
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MalhotraRaj84
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Posted: 25 November 2012 at 11:15am |
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India tottering at 117 for 7 with just 31 runs lead.Fantastic effort by England.
This is what MSD said, good to have pitches that stay true right from the start of the match, evens out lot of things and whoever plays well, takes risk comes on top of the game, which England just did here. Bring on similar pitches in Kolkata and Nagpur
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Posted: 25 November 2012 at 8:49am |
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ENG have lost out on an opportunity to get a big lead here, 86 is good but considering how vulnerable England are chasing on such tracks in the 4th innings, anything over 100 and India will feel they have a chance. ENG should have got a lead of around 120-140.
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MalhotraRaj84
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Posted: 25 November 2012 at 4:47am |
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Cook and KP get tons , good batting that. Still no Yuvi
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MalhotraRaj84
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Posted: 24 November 2012 at 11:43am |
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England 178 for 2 at stumps, Cook and KP looking in great touch in reply to India's 327 all out. So trail by only 149 with 8 wickets in hand, in spite of losing the toss. More often than not, your fate is in your own hands, no doubt toss,conditions and various other factors do matter (and there is nothing wrong in saying that toss was crucial when it actually is), but when you play great cricket you don't lose, that is what Cook and KP did . Had these two not played like this (and if England had crumbled) I am damn sure that this pitch would have been made to be some kind of snake pit,dust bowl or whatever nonsense that anti spin propaganda bandwagon of experts blabber about.
What I hate is, squarely putting the blame on turners when a team cannot play or can't show lack of application on challenging tracks. Back to game, England are 60 to 40 ahead in the test.
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sam_ahmed
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Posted: 24 November 2012 at 10:37am |
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Cook and KP have played brilliantly so far, India will be in toruble if this partnership is not broken soon, at 165/2 ENG have surprised everyone!!!
There is plenty of turn and bounce out there, ENG quite simply have played well, really well!!!
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MalhotraRaj84
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Posted: 24 November 2012 at 9:21am |
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KP has started positively , 18 of 18 balls, more than that he looks assured at the crease when compared to first test. Why not bring Yuvi at other end, coz KP's 1 hour of this positive batting could do serious damage.
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MalhotraRaj84
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Posted: 24 November 2012 at 8:20am |
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While India was 169 for 6, when Pujara was ably supported by Ashwin to pull the score to 280. Just goes to show that more than this turner, green top pitches discussion it is the players who should adapt to any condition and win the game.
EDIT: Wow 66 for 1 as I wrote, but Trott,KP,Prior are all capable batsman, while Samit is know to be a good player of spin.Very interesting now that Indians got a breakthrough  .Edited by MalhotraRaj84 - 24 November 2012 at 8:23am |
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MalhotraRaj84
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Posted: 24 November 2012 at 8:16am |
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Visitors 65 for no loss after 30 overs, where all the talk about unfair to have turners. It is simple , play well and win, play worse and lose, as simple as that.
Great batting by Cook and Compton
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sam_ahmed
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Posted: 23 November 2012 at 5:10pm |
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another century for Cheteshwar Pujara, no wonder this lad was talked about so much before he entered the side, what a performer he has been!!!
ENG had India on the mat at 125/5 and then 169/6, they have allowed things to slip away though. Ashwin and Pujara got a good partnership going and ENG could well be looking at a difficult score now.
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Posted: 22 November 2012 at 7:19pm |
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It mainly depends on the toss if India bat first its all over for England just like last game. So really hope England win the toss and Sam Monty will surely play.
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Rohit Sharma - What the world has seen is gear 1, gear speed 2,3,4,5,7,8,9 to be witnessed in IPL only.
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sam_ahmed
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Posted: 22 November 2012 at 6:13pm |
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Very harsh indeed on Samit but I think he will be given another go because lately Samit has looked to be in fabulous form, I think England should stick with him, esp now that Bell is unavailable.
I don't know if England will consider playing Monty tomorrow, but I think they should play him in place of Anderson, Broad, I believe will do better than Jimmy in India, ENG though will still miss Steve Finn very badly. If ENG are to turn this around they have to win the toss (something not in their hands) and they will have to do something very very special against spin and Swann and Monty will have to bowl very very well to get India out, and even all that may not be enough!
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Posted: 22 November 2012 at 12:16pm |
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Agreed Raj , India had the worst of the bad decisons - but TWELVE bad decisons in a single test is appalling ! Tony Hill simply isn't good enough , but there just doesn't seem to be anyone out there to take his place. Simon Taufel has got some job on to get international umpiring up to scratch - there's far too many poor ones on the so called elite panel.
You have to feel for Samit Patel - his 1st test and he gets two shockers before he's got started. If he's dropped tomorrow then Hill should apologise! |
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MalhotraRaj84
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Posted: 20 November 2012 at 7:41pm |
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India does not have any problem touring abroad, if they had they would have not drawn with SA and other places.Their records earlier to 2011 was great. Take out ENG and AUS - 2011 , India has a great 4-5 years abroad and as well as home. One bad season , does not make them bad.WHen this constantly happens with many ( like many other teams) they you can say they have a problem.India have always had great touring right from 2001, from 2004 their records has been better than many.
Lot of decisions went against India , not England. This is what Stuart Broad tweeted "On DRS. I hear 12 decisions would have been overturned in the Test. Potentially match changing but India would have had 8 of them"... clearly shows who had a rough match. Sensible guy... tweeted the truth, but there was a funny reply by some English media person in affirmative saying something like this --> yes from 5 days to 4 days ... twitter can be funny at times and virtual battle ground between two people who don't like each other. Stuart was actually saying that India was at loss without DRS, while a angry meidaperson took revenge on him. India always get lot of decision against them because of lack of DRS , nothing new there , they are kind of used to it, it happened in previous tours too and many crucial decisions too, never the less for a change so I would want the rub of the green to go to India's way henceforth. I want to see if how other teams cope up when lot of decisions don't go their way.
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Posted: 20 November 2012 at 5:37pm |
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i think its only fair that he demands turning pitches,every cricket nation is guilty of preparing pitches that suit them,and if India want to improve their away record they need to offer bouncy wickets during domestic matches so players can get adapted to it from early age and it becomes a part of their muscle memory to deal with the extra bounce,however testing fast pitches during international matches would beat common sense as you are losing on the home advantage,and neither would a serier loss do any good to your self confidence which is a vital part of this game nor would it make you a better player of fast bowling overnight,
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for what a man would like to be true,that he more readily believes.
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sam_ahmed
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Posted: 20 November 2012 at 5:21pm |
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ENG's trump card in this series, if they were to have any chance whatsoever of doing well was Steven Finn, he is a man who can bowl very well even in subcontinental conditions and of course Graeme Swann... without Finn ENG do not stand much of a chance.
Umpiring in the first test has been below par, while most decisions went against ENG, a few went for them too, including the crucial one of Cook early in the 2nd innings. I don't give ENG much of a chance actually, if the pitches are result oriented then we might as well see India winning 3-0 or something like that, nothing much seems to have changed for England, really can't see anyone turning it around for them atm, except for Cook, but he alone won't win them test matches here.
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MalhotraRaj84
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Posted: 20 November 2012 at 3:40pm |
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"I don't even want to see this wicket,". "There wasn't enough turn and bounce for the spinners… Hopefully in the coming matches we'll see the wicket turn, right from start, or as soon as possible so that the toss doesn't become vital." "I don't think the match referee can question a pitch just because it's turning,","When the wicket seams right from the first delivery, nobody asks questions. What you don't want is ridges in the wicket and then one ball hits your head and next your toe. At times, in the subcontinent, on pitches like this, the toss becomes vital. The only way to take the toss out of the equation is to have pitches that turn right from the start. The game may end in three-and-a-half days, but both teams will have an equal opportunity to win the game." Anything wrong there in what he said ? Dhoni is someone who always plays the game fair, he calls spade a spade, sometimes when he looses he says that toss was vital to which some section get angry and say he gives reasons, well many a times when he wins and if there is a toss advantage he rightly puts it across, If I am right even after World Cup finals he said that once dew came, it was easier to bat on. He does not miss words, some people are just can't digest his success. What I like about him , he does not give a damn about anyone speaking nonsense, it hardly bothers him.Rock solid guy.One of the best traits that captains should have. |
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Posted: 20 November 2012 at 2:52pm |
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Will say it again, I don't see England having much chance of winning in India. India is out to embarass them, and surely they for starters won't make Mohali type pitches and I think, that's the critical thing. Also, want to see Rahane in for Gambhir.
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MalhotraRaj84
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Posted: 19 November 2012 at 5:55pm |
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India 1 up in the series, this series is going to be interesting, I am sure that England will put up a better fight in remaining matches.
I was very happy that one crucial decision did not go in India's favor, coz if Cook was given out initially , then the match would have been over by 4th day morning and everyone would have said that pitches in India are not good enough for tests, some even say that pitches are doctored to suit home team only and whole load of usual nonsense would follow. At least now it should be clear that there is always scope when batman sweats it out. Good that Indians had 77 runs to knock off, which again showed there was nothing scary even on the 5th day pitch (apart from being slow and low). Nothing new about England selections blunders (atleast Indians stopped doing that), England did similar mistake against Pak and SL , not taking Monty in some matches along with other selection blunders. Next match, England might stun India with a improved performance, KP & Trott will want to put some runs, which is very dangerous signs for India.
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Posted: 19 November 2012 at 12:39pm |
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A comprehensive win for the home side and no real surprise after the dismal 1st innings effort by England. Fine batting though by India against some rather ordinary bowling (Swann apart). A major selectorial blunder was picking Bresnan over Panesar and I expect that to be one of several changes for Friday. Bell goes home for the birth of his child , but he's not actually set the world on fire and I can't say he's a huge loss. Cook will again have to carry the batting and I fear the burden could prove too much. Mikey is right - KP has a real problem will left arm orthodox and his head seems scrambled as just how to address it. Graham Gooch was a class player of all forms of spin and I just wonder if KP's ego just won't allow him to listen to sound advise.
No such problems for India and unless England score big in the first innings (and hopefully win the toss) they'll be up against it again. Edited by Sledger - 19 November 2012 at 12:40pm |
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MalhotraRaj84
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Posted: 18 November 2012 at 10:53am |
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England lead by 10 runs with 5 wickets in hand , omnious signs this with just one over to go
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Posted: 18 November 2012 at 9:53am |
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Yes Mikey, I have no doubt that he has worked on it , infact he even said that while commentary stint during World T20, but you know sometimes somethings just don't click no matter how hard one tries.I guess it is one of those things with him.
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