England v Pakistan

Originally posted by W.G. Originally posted by kahmad well done english media. They can find such photos of every player in the world. No, only the ones who are cheating ..... and yes, I accept anyone can, from time to time, seek to gain an advantage by changing the state of the ball ..... but let's think about this - the whole world thinks your team is stuffed full of cheats, it is the las game in a series where you have been repeatedly accused of cheating ..... is this really a good time to stamp on the ball and clearly dig your fingers into it?

What W.G said, spot on. Still finding it hard to understand his mentality. Why when your such a good bowler?

Originally posted by flipper Originally posted by kahmad well done english media. They can find such photos of every player in the world. I'm very sorry but if this was a player representing my country I would still be outraged and want action taken against him. It doesn't matter if it goes on around the world, its just plain wrong and he's been caught, end of. To take a stance and defend this sort of thing shows no respect for the sport.

He was not banned for cheating. He might not be a innocent guy but this is 100% fake.

Originally posted by W.G. seems they were at it right until the very end, with Pizza Express seemingly caught ball tampering by the press cameras

Broad was doing the same some time back. IIRC was against SAF. Ball tampering?






Edited by crapbag - 23 September 2010 at 11:31am

This is not the first time Shoaib has come under the spotlight at the Rose Bowl.
Four years ago, he was filmed by Sky cameras flicking at the ball with his thumb during a One-day international .
On that occasion, Shoaib was cleared but was warned about his behaviour after being accused of tampering with the ball during a Test match in Zimbabwe in late 2002.
The following year he was banned for two ODIs and fined 75 percent of his match fee after being found guilty of the same crime against New Zealand in Sri Lanka.

Originally posted by flipper This is not the first time Shoaib has come under the spotlight at the Rose Bowl. Four years ago, he was filmed by Sky cameras flicking at the ball with his thumb during a One-day international . On that occasion, Shoaib was cleared but was warned about his behaviour after being accused of tampering with the ball during a Test match in Zimbabwe in late 2002. The following year he was banned for two ODIs and fined 75 percent of his match fee after being found guilty of the same crime against New Zealand in Sri Lanka.

We all already know this mate just one thing i want to ask you do you believe in this pictures?

Of course the pictures are real, I said on the last page they look pretty conclusive to me.

Originally posted by mystery Just tell me objecting to his contract is cheating? The reality was that becuz of his indiscipline he was banned there was nothing to do with drugs or ball tampering and which evidence you talking about photo's?

I'm sorry, of course you are right - never a more honest cricketer has pulled on a set of whites.

Originally posted by flipper Of course the pictures are real, I said on the last page they look pretty conclusive to me.

Edited by mystery - 23 September 2010 at 1:26pm

Originally posted by mystery Originally posted by flipper Of course the pictures are real, I said on the last page they look pretty conclusive to me.      This Picture prove my point that this is all fake just look at picture at right  and any sensible guy would find the different between fake and real. There must be a handle on the ball thats why only with one finger he is holding the ball. Sorry he is not even using his finger its just his nails.

You loon - you've cut off the bit clearly showing the second shot is of him dropping the ball to tread on it ...... by all means defend your man (wrongly) but please don't doctor pictures to do so - altering my quotes was bad enough!!!!!!!

PS
It's the difference with Broad - he at least had the sense to tread on a rolling ball as if to stop it - not drop it on the floor then tread on it,

Originally posted by spin wizard Mystery, that's when the ball dropped from him.   These things are making Pakistan Cricket look really bad.  When not selling out a game, you're cheating to win.   I don't think Pakistan are the only team that does it but they seem to be the only ones to make it seem so apparent, well, other than Broad and I think was Anderson as well of late.

forget it mystery, no point in arguing, they blindly believe whatever the English media says, I wonder if they have cops in their country or is it the media who performs a dual role.

As for the series, yes England deserved to win, and well done to them

The umpiring has been very very ordinary, lucky these two that they were not playing against India otherwise two umpiring careers would have come to an end! Nasser Hussain, the former england captain, said on air yesterday "... there have been several umpiring errors in this series and we have to say most of them went in favor of England..." That just says it all.

I hope Pakistan do not tour england again, in no other country have they had such allegations leveled against them but whenever they tour england something terrible happens to them. Pakistan doesn't need England to organize their home series, they already have the United Arab Emirates who will be more than happy to schedule their home matches until cricket returns to Pakistan. as for a future tour to England, I hope Pakistan avoid it as much as possible or send a second grade team.

Originally posted by mystery The first picture where he is standing on the ball shows that its not possible. See his right boot its not on the ground and see his left one which the picture shows that its on the ball than how can he be so balanced? its just not possible with spiked boots and I can take a picture of Anderson when he is holding the ball and than in the next pic i can easily make him look like he is trying to do ball tampering. Please guys [not WG] dont believe in pictures it can be fake its too easy.

Sorry, and I'll say this only once, ..... ****!

Sorry, I really am.

Originally posted by sam_ahmed Nasser Hussain, the former england captain, said on air yesterday "... there have been several umpiring errors in this series and we have to say most of them went in favor of England..." That just says it all.

Well there's me thinking I listened from first ball to last when obviously I fell asleep for 3.7 seconds.

For the recored (and he didn't say it anyway) several = 3, so most = 2.

Originally posted by sam_ahmed So when some allegations are made against Pakistani players some English fans call them cheats and consider them to be guilty and the ICC suspends them and when something is Proved against a certain man some English fans consider that to be the wrong verdict and still blame Pakistani cricketers. Pathetic!

You really must show me what was proved gainst Hair...... yes, it's ok, I will wait.