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    Posted: 15 August 2007 at 6:54pm
Engand have so far been written off by, everyone, but they are the only team, bar South Africa, that have left out test players for specialists at the county game. That might give them a lifeline. Look for example how many Australian players in the squad were in the Ashes test series? Nearly everyone. But England on the other matter, didn't field, Snape, Kirtley, Schofield, as they are taking a damn good risk at having a good chance of winning this tournament. This should give England some believers.
 
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I don't think everyone has written England off! This is the shortest format of the game and anything can happen.
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just looking at the signature of DDRickyDD but arent SA no1 in ODI's?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote DDRickyDD Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 August 2007 at 10:41pm
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just looking at the signature of DDRickyDD but arent SA no1 in ODI's?
 
They were just before the world cup. but Australia regained no. 1 spot after the world cup.
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Originally posted by Monty

Engand have so far been written off by, everyone, but they are the only team, bar South Africa, that have left out test players for specialists at the county game. That might give them a lifeline. Look for example how many Australian players in the squad were in the Ashes test series? Nearly everyone. But England on the other matter, didn't field, Snape, Kirtley, Schofield, as they are taking a damn good risk at having a good chance of winning this tournament. This should give England some believers.
 
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It's an admirable defence Monty, but they haven't tried these guys at international Twenty20 level. Yes, most have played international cricket before but not at Twenty20 level, where instead we stuck with the Bells, the Andersons etc.

All that does is put added pressure on the specialists; everyone is expecting them to be able to perform, just because they have done it at domestic level.

And we're not the only side to pick Twenty20 specialists either.

And what relevance does The Ashes have to a Twenty20 tournament?
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well i as just saying that the aussies have theitr own 20/20 compettion and, im not a grewat follower but...., surely theyll have specialists like england do. iI meant that if you compare the TEST side from the ashes in australia, they have just nearly picked the same side which may not be suited to 20/20, that for me is the problem with australia, they have their so called "stars" like gilchrist etc and they then use them for EVERY  format of the game, for all they know they could have a player which was appaling at tests but yet would hit hundred after hundred but they would not pick him because they stick woth that same XI for EVERYTHING 
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Nah, they've stuck with the one-day side Monty. Lee in for McGrath is the only difference. Hodge has a fantastic Twenty20 record, I'm less sure about the others but Australia have confidence in their players to adapt. As they are world leaders, they'll probably cope just fine.

Mind, Cameron White might be miffed seeing as he is the T20 record score-holder at not getting a look in.
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i know but if you think about it the only changes from the one day squad from the test squad is hogg for warne, lee for mcgrath, and watson for langer and all 3 of those people that are out are retired so this IS probably the test squad now anyway
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So wich one of the squad isn't suited to 20/20 monty?
 
Our 20/20 comp is only very new, it's also not serious, they have been bringing in celebrities to play to try and boost crowds, it's purley an entertainment thing.
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Originally posted by Monty

well i as just saying that the aussies have theitr own 20/20 compettion and, im not a grewat follower but...., surely theyll have specialists like england do. iI meant that if you compare the TEST side from the ashes in australia, they have just nearly picked the same side which may not be suited to 20/20, that for me is the problem with australia, they have their so called "stars" like gilchrist etc and they then use them for EVERY  format of the game, for all they know they could have a player which was appaling at tests but yet would hit hundred after hundred but they would not pick him because they stick woth that same XI for EVERYTHING 


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If Monty just randomly pressed [enter] every now and then it would help too.

I think England have more of a chance fielding this squad then if they had just stuck to the ODI squad.

I think the so called 'specialists' have earned a chance. Whether they will perform or not is anyone's guess.

I think Australia will probably do fine with the squad they have named, because, as has been mentioned, they will adapt. They are the world leaders of cricket at the moment and IMO are so far ahead of any other nation that even with their relative lack of T20 experience they could probably easily go on to win.

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I Don't see a problem with the Aussies squad. That side can Play all form of the game and win easily still. Hayden can hit them, we all know what Gilly can do; Clarke and Symonds can murder the ball and Hussey has played some cameos in his career all ready. Bracken's good with the ball in limited overs, well, Lee, he might go for a few but can take wickets still and is handy with the bat. I'll have my money on them than any other side but this game is too unpredictable, any of the test nations can win it.
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Guys, Australia has the best chance of winning. Their power hitters are likely to thrive in this environment...and I've seen Gilly, Ponting and Symonds in full 20/20 attack mode. Do you reckon they'll ask for microphones while on the field, so the commentators can converse with them? (by the way who else found that incredibly strange)
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sledger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 August 2007 at 7:59am
  Steve Elworthy , the tournament organiser said that the event will closely follow the method used in local T20 competitions. From that , I take it that on-field mics will be part of the game - along with the miner's helmets , dancing girls and rock music !

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When they first did it in an Australian game, i couldn't believe my eyes! Gilly was about to hit the bowl, whilst he was talking on the microphone! Sledge, i thought you especially, would be cringing at the sight of such an atroscity!! Wink
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the on-field discussions are something I enjoy although Sky have cut back on them during the last couple of seasons and now you tend to have 2 players in the fielding side with mics and they will talk to the commentary box just the once each during an innings
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sledger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 August 2007 at 10:04am
  I'm not bothered by the mics , but I don't rave over them either. The players say little of interest and sometimes the questions asked are downright silly.
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Fair enough. It can add a bit of humour I suppose.
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it depends which player is on it - Dominic Cork is always good value
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Hate it personally. They're playing a professional sport and should be removed from emotional invigilation while doing so.
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True mate, I really don't like it. In the Stanford 2020 in the caribbean, the skippers were the ones with the mic.
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You are right about not writing off England. As you said they have different players and it's a totally different game so they have as much chance as any of the other teams.
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