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TCA123 
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 Topic: Essex & Darren GoughPosted: 11 September 2006 at 9:00pm |
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I think Yardy is a better batsman than Dalrymple. I'm not sure Yardy is a specialist one day player. I think he will be pushing to replace Giles at number 8 for England as well as Dalrymple in a few years. |
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Posted: 12 September 2006 at 9:07am |
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I wouldn't particularly want a bloke with a first class bowling average of nearly 70 leading my Test spin attack
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Posted: 12 September 2006 at 10:07pm |
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Well he wouldn't be. Panesar would.
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Posted: 12 September 2006 at 10:12pm |
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So in essence you are talking about maybe 6 Tests out of 30 where England would even consider playing two spinners
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Posted: 12 September 2006 at 10:19pm |
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I'm saying in the distant future. Yardy could replace Giles as a lower order batsman who can bowl abit. Not be a huge wicket taker. Lets face it, Giles is hardly a wicket taking threat on a flat deck is he?
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Posted: 12 September 2006 at 10:24pm |
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Well the comparisons to Derek Underwood from the media were rather generous to Yardy but if he becomes half the bowler Deadly was then he'll be well worth a slot.
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Posted: 12 September 2006 at 10:28pm |
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I think he is a very good batsman and with time, can only improve on his bowling too. The ball going past the outside of the bat is more useful than spining in so theres a case for Yardy ahead of Dalrymple although i wouldn't agree at the moment.
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Posted: 12 September 2006 at 10:47pm |
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Yardy has a bowl average of over 70!!!???? Jeezo! I thought he looked really good.
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Posted: 13 September 2006 at 8:36am |
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He's only got something like 15 FC wickets
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Posted: 13 September 2006 at 5:27pm |
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Wow that is a big surprise. He looked more than just a part timer.
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Posted: 26 December 2006 at 8:39pm |
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you guys were all well harsh on me in this thread, especially since I was right.
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Posted: 30 December 2006 at 2:41pm |
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I'm not entirely sure why Dalrymple wasn't more in the mix to take that number 8 spot for the first Ashes Test.
Monty is easily the best of the three but surely Dalrymple should have had a good case to be ahead of Gilo?
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Posted: 30 December 2006 at 7:53pm |
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he wasnt picked in the squad so he couldn't be picked
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Posted: 03 January 2007 at 2:04pm |
Nice to see some things never change round here |
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Posted: 03 May 2007 at 1:20am |
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Gough should have retired after his knee injury. He was the best one day bowler England had until that time. By staying on he has kept younger players from developing so we went to the World Cup with Plunkett and Mahmood who had played about 20 games each. We should have had a settled bowling attack that had been bowling together for years.
Today I read that he wants to get back into the ODI team and thinks he will do especially well in the 20/20 World Cup. He probably sees 36 year old Nixon in the side and thinks he should be there as well. We have two good 20/20 bowlers in Lewis and Broad. Both have better county 20/20 figures than he has.
Gough's last 10 ODIs
Average 56.87 econ 5.90 s/r 57.75
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Posted: 03 May 2007 at 9:31am |
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yes I saw the muppet blowing his own trumpet again, bragging how well he has bowled in T20 AND what a success he has been batting up the order...so to cheer myself up I pulled up the scorecard from the Essex v Leics semi-final last year. He should take a look at it himself really.
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Posted: 03 May 2007 at 10:42am |
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I thought he wanted to get Yorkshire back to their best and in the next instant he wants to leave them and go off with England and I can see his friend Vaughan having a say in getting him back in the side. With the Schofield report coming out this month I hope that if new selectors are chosen and also a manager and selector to tour, the coach and captain will do their job and not have such a big say on who they want in the team.
Vaughan was instrumental in getting Nixon, a friend, into the team and also had a say in getting Bresnan in. Selection should be made by the selectors who watch most of the county games and talk to coaches, umpires, etc not by a captain. Hussain had a say in Irani, Grayson and Foster getting into the side. Were these players the best in the country at that time?
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Posted: 05 May 2007 at 10:26pm |
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although he blows his own trumpet all too much, i quite frankly love his desire to represent his country, perhaps people like freddie who fall out of pedalos should take a look at what others there are desperately trying to do what he's doing...just a thought
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