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    Posted: 04 April 2011 at 11:00am
Yes a terrible time ahead as Zaheer & Nehra aren't getting any younger, they aren't McGrath/Walsh to play that long. By next world cup Zak will be about 36 and Nehra 35 (assuming he keeps himself fit).I don't think even Zak/Nehra are thinking that far. So India need to start looking for future esp. w.r.t fast bowling dept very seriously as next WC will be in Australia.
 
PK will do well on any surface as he is more of an intelligent bowler and tires to bowl within his limitations.He has an excellent control too.He has got both inswinger and outswinger.Munaf has been great recently, will he be able to add few yards of pace and become a bit more stronger ? RP and Sree might get chances. All in all the fast bowling department closet looks void Confused. Mithun and Sangwan are still far off , they need to work a lot.
 
Maybe it is the right time to bring back Irfan pathan as an  Allrounder. The main reason to persist with Yousuf Pathan was his spin bowling + big hitting lower down the order in sub continent pitches for 2011 WC. The team managment might start favouring the younger one keeping in next WC in mind.
 
 
Then what about Ishant.I am damn (actually hoping for Wink) sure he will be back.He has to as he is our best bet on such surfaces.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote vote4peace Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 April 2011 at 11:24am
There are also a few other youngsters out there in the domestic circuit. Its time the management selects some new young fresh blood. I think come the IPL we gonna see a few of them. Deepak Chahar, Jaidev Unadkat deceives to look good. Pankaj Singh too seems an improved bowler. But then again the gap between the domestic and international arena is immense.

For the time being lets not ponder too much about the future and just Enjoy this Moment.

Hmmm.. feels fantabulous.
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         Yep, future will take care of itself. Enjoying every bit of the moment , spoilt for choices though,  TV channels or hangout with friends or net articles or discuss the match time and again with friends over the phone and relive all those world cup moments!!!.
 
The excitement has settled a bit now, but it will take about a week for everything to get back to normalcy.
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Bangladesh won't be able to win against India,WI,England,SA.If they beat Ireland that will be good result.
Very first match India will give them a lifetime thrashing , it is long time due ( Revenge for 2007 world cup exit would be the only thing on Indians mind , once they reach safety ).
 
This was the reason (illogical) why I did not post anything during the World cup matches Ying%20Yang. The moment I saw first match just go as I predicted , I got a little bit superstitious about all this. I got all my predictions right when I made a prediction and didn't log in back untill the end of tournament. Just like the way it happened with Ashes,Ind-SA tour etc etc ..Whenever I made a perdiction and stayed posting on the forum , my perdictions came crashing down.
 
       I know absolutely there isn't any correlation but still both my mind and heart stopped me in posting till the WC was won.Though I visited the forum and read each and every post, but never logged in a single time. I made a promise to myself that I will post only at the end of World cup, and for return I asked just a lovely little wish .. The World Cup!!!
 
Nothing against the Bangladesh, they played hot and cold throught the tournament.They had their moments aswell.Would want them to perform well in future.
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Small office party planned by management to commemorate and celebrate the occasion over here tonight. Not sure if I'll be that ecstatic as yesterday. Used all of ecstasy on Sunday Wink
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Post Options Post Options   Quote dips_december Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 April 2011 at 12:48pm
Not a bad time to be back in the forum! Congratulations to all my fellow Indians here. It was one heck of a game! And we won finally after 28 years.

All credit to Dhoni and his boys. Yuvraj was terrific and so was Sachin. Gambhir showed why he is so important to that middle order. Kohli had his moments and didn't succumb to the pressure of the finals while any praise is not worthy enough for the skipper!

Zaheer shouldered the bowling responsibility quite well with Yuvraj playing the leading spinners role. The others did well too and I hope Ashwin gets more games in the coming matches as he's a tough nut!

I danced in the streets till about 1'o clock that night and couldn't sleep the whole night! Had a blast really! I think the IPL's coming too soon for my liking as this feeling is still sinking in!
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Originally posted by dips_december

I danced in the streets till about 1'o clock that night and couldn't sleep the whole night! Had a blast really! I think the IPL's coming too soon for my liking as this feeling is still sinking in!
Welcome dipsey. Congrats. Ya it came a little too soon, that's ok as some of the main players will skip initial few rounds as there is a limitation on the number of matches they can play.
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Who on earth cares about the IPL mate. it is sad that after such a classy tournament full of high intensity cricket we will be witnessing the dross.
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Watch a final, set up brilliant by Jayawardena and the Lanka lower order.  Jayawardena caresses the ball when he's in T20 mode and yet scores at a blistering rate.  His use of wrists is very magical!
 
India got off to a bad start but the cool headedness of Gambhir and Kohli put them back in the game.  I really like Kohli, he seems very collective in his thoughts and can be very destructive too.  Dhoni took the chance and played his best innings in a long time.  I always admired the way he changes the batting order to suit the situation (except when he promotes Yusuf Pathan).
 
Mostly, i'm happy for Sachin Tendulkar.  Such a fine cricketer and person in generally, he really deserve it.  Hats off to you mon!!
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Originally posted by zuhair_abbasi

Who on earth cares about the IPL mate. it is sad that after such a classy tournament full of high intensity cricket we will be witnessing the dross.
Absolutely mate... no one cares about IPL in India like what they do for "Team India".I hope it stays that way, I will never want any IPL team to more loved/favoured than national team.Believe me Zuhair, no one cares about IPL team when Team India is discussed.
 
         After the final one foolish journalist asked Priety Zinta about IPL victory and this WC victory, when she told IPL is nothing infact she told as if IPL does not exist compared to Team India.This comming from one of the franchisee owner speaks volumes.
 
          The fact is people in India just watch IPL for fun, they cheer when respective regional team wins, but they never get gutted or depressed on its loss. Nation's matches are different. Emotion never comes up in IPL, it is just regional emotions which are very faint in comparison. I can't explain, but there is subtle difference.I have not seen CSK fan/RCB fan or MI fan distraught/gutted after the losses in first three editions of IPL.
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Hi JP, will cricketworld have "Team India" champions photo in the background for a while ? (Just like we had when England won the Ashes).
 
I would love if that happens.
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Congratz to team India, and their fans, overall really good tournament. Indians here in Canada going berserk!!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Mikey Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 April 2011 at 4:09am
It's a great outcome for India, but one must feel that they may end up on the same path as Australia, as their talented stars age. The replacements are good, but in no way can VVS, Rahul, Sachin, Ganguly, Kumble, Zaheer, Sehwag ever truly be replaced.
The batting should always be decent, as India do, slowly, bring in new talent. But fast bowling will always be a concern and they should look outside Zaheer for wickets. An Indian line up with a couple of good pace bowlers is the most dangerous team to play....
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Post Options Post Options   Quote kirankri Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 April 2011 at 9:25am
Finally our generation got to see a WC victory.. I was too young when we won the cup last time and we didn't have TVs in most of the houses then. And it is a proud feeling to be in the list of very few countries who have won the WC for more than once.
 
Its also noticable that, they deserved to win the title. The path certainly was not the easiest. Australia in QFs, Pak in the Semis and Sri in the finals was probably the toughest path. Was quite similar to T20 title in that sense. And to make it worse, two of the three tosses were lost. The satisfaction will be more when you win the cup like this.
 
Gary Kirsten's contribution should be significant and that's why we saw almost all the players mentioning his name in the interviews. He was able to successfully bring the descipline which was lacking in the Indian side when he started his carreer as a coach. Will he be able to bring the mental strength for the South African side? Yet to be seen.
 
Overall, a good tournament because of some of the matches. Certainly not a great format. Good to see only 10 teams play in the next world cup.
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Ad on the toss - who else thinks Sangakkara is a cheat? He clealry called tails the first time and he lost - that was so disgraceful.
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Some people believe in karma Zuhair . If that is the case, he got what he deserved...
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Post Options Post Options   Quote kirankri Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 April 2011 at 10:23am
Can't comment on it since I didn't see it Zuhair. I was on the way to one of my friends house to see the match when it happened. Very bad if he did it.
Anyhow when it comes to captaincy, he is a very conservative captain in my opinion. He should have given Malinga few more overs initially. He always wants to keep him for the last 10+ overs.
 
On the other hand, Dhoni did only one mistake. That is to take Sreeshanth. Luckily didn't cost us the match and the title in turn. Henceforth, they shouldn't even be thinking about Sreeshanth.
 
By the way, the first good thing to happen to Indian team was Praveen Kumar getting injured. I was so happy that day. It was a blessing in disguise.
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Originally posted by kirankri

Finally our generation got to see a WC victory.. I was too young when we won the cup last time and we didn't have TVs in most of the houses then. And it is a proud feeling to be in the list of very few countries who have won the WC for more than once.
 

Its also noticable that, they deserved to win the title. The path certainly was not the easiest. Australia in QFs, Pak in the Semis and Sri in the finals was probably the toughest path. Was quite similar to T20 title in that sense. And to make it worse, two of the three tosses were lost. The satisfaction will be more when you win the cup like this.

 

Gary Kirsten's contribution should be significant and that's why we saw almost all the players mentioning his name in the interviews. He was able to successfully bring the descipline which was lacking in the Indian side when he started his carreer as a coach. Will he be able to bring the mental strength for the South African side? Yet to be seen.

 

Overall, a good tournament because of some of the matches. Certainly not a great format. Good to see only 10 teams play in the next world cup.


That format is great for the Champion's Trophy. The tournament in 2009, where Australia ended up victorious, was very well formatted. If they want to streamline ODI cricket then that format should be taken - which seams the case. In fact, I think Bang and Zim were also excluded from that tournament and there were 8 teams.
However, for a World Cup, I think it'd be fair that the winner and runner up from the associate competition should be given a chance. 12 teams seems fair, having 1 extra team in each group probably won't make a huge difference... it will mean 2 minnows won't be playing each other and at least give teams like Ireland, who are in between test class and associate class, a shot to play against the big boys.
That's the problem for Ireland... they are too good at time for Associate cricket, but not good enough for test cricket.
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Ad on the toss - who else thinks Sangakkara is a cheat? He clealry called tails the first time and he lost - that was so disgraceful.
I too missed it live.Some reports say that he said "Heads" the first time and it fell Heads , While some say he lost the first time. I would like to believe that he did not cheat. Maybe the occassion got big on everyone there, or maybe Dhoni got confused what Sanga called, maybe Sanga forgot what he called in first place. 
 
I tried to look at the toss video (audio quality was not good Confused ), I can't get anything from it - whether he called Heads or Tails. Maybe in few days we will come to know the truth.


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I'm glad that there was no hue or outcry by Dhoni. He quickly got over it carried on.

I'm quiet sure though the media would've made a ruckus of it had India lost.


Originally posted by kirankri

 
By the way, the first good thing to happen to Indian team was Praveen Kumar getting injured. I was so happy that day. It was a blessing in disguise.


 


  I would rather prefer PK to Sreesanth anyday, atleast in ODI. He's a street smart bowler.
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Gary Kirsten in an Interview

"And I think the one positive that came out from that England game is how  we came back. For me that has been one great characteristic of the Test team and the one-day team. To come back from difficult situations. This team never gives up anymore.

We just believe that we can do anything. It stems from Harbhajan Singh scoring hundreds. It stems from Ishant Sharma batting with [VVS] Laxman to save a game. It stems from Gautam Gambhir batting out a day against South Africa in really tough conditions at Newlands. And then all the one-day efforts from difficult situations. Yusuf Pathan getting a brilliant hundred against New Zealand [last December] when we were in trouble. You could probably name six or seven games in this World cup when we got ourselves into trouble and got out of it.

This team has got a remarkable ability to come back from the dead. For me that speaks about the team, it speaks about what we want to achieve as a team. This team was desperate to achieve greatness."

I strongly share those sentiments.  We gonna miss you Gary.  Really enjoyed reading your interview, a must read ( Never gives a lot of bite to the media, and rightly so)
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Gary will be missed , I have not seen any team chairing a coach around the ground (I don't know). It just showed what Gary meant to this team and each member.
 
"Thanks Gary" and all the best. It'll be hard, these boys seem to have developed a  special bond with you , soon you will be SA coach and then it will be a fresh fight all over again when your boys lock horns Smile with Indians.That's the way it is.
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well I returned yesterday from my trip to lucknow, didn't had as good a time as I had last year but still it was OK. The best part was that I was invited for dinner by Mohammed Kaif's sister and her husband at their house, had a very good time there, Kaif has got married, saw his marriage Pics, it was attended by Azharuddin, Kapil Dev, Irfan Pathan, Murali Kartik and Ajay Jadeja, as it happened during the WC none of the Indian team members were able to attend it. All the best to Kaif for his married life and wish him best of luck for IPL season 4!

My final words on WC 2011, I think there were several teams that could have won, South Africa were one had it not been for their shocking exit, Sri Lanka could have won but they couldn't capitalize on the wonderful position they were in once Sachin got out and Pakistan were another team had it not been for their abysmal fielding in the Semi Final against India that pretty much cost them the game.

India peaked at the right time, after a scratchy start they came good when it mattered the most, their KO's win's were absolutely amazing and showed how determined the team was to win, the fielding was absolutely fantastic in the KO's and the players rose to the occasion, Gambhir as I had said, loves it at the big stage and once again played a major part in the finals.

Once again congrats to Team India a new journey begins now, all the very best to all the teams and I think we have got very exciting four years ahead of us until we reach Australia and New zealand 2015.
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