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Clobber
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Joined: 03 January 2006 Online Status: Offline Posts: 8255 |
Topic: England v New Zealand 2008Posted: 04 January 2008 at 1:02pm |
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Might as well start this since the England squads have been announced. The big news is that Matt Prior has been dropped from both forms of the game with David Graveney announcing that his keeping needs to improve. And to think this guy gets paid to be so knowledgeable. Tim Ambrose comes in almost out of the blue - James Foster must be sleeping with Graveney's wife or something to be so consistently overlooked.
In other news Andrew Strauss also makes a return to the Test squad, leaving a potentially tricky decision down the road for the selectors in relation to the batting order. The squads; England Test squad Michael Vaughan (capt), Tim Ambrose (wk), James Anderson, Ian Bell, Stuart Broad, Paul Collingwood, Alastair Cook, Steve Harmison, Matthew Hoggard, Phil Mustard, Monty Panesar, Kevin Pietersen, Owais Shah, Ryan Sidebottom, Andrew Strauss, Graeme Swann. England ODI squad Paul Collingwood (capt), Tim Ambrose (wk), James Anderson, Ian Bell, Ravi Bopara, Stuart Broad, Alastair Cook, Dimitri Mascarenhas, Phil Mustard, Kevin Pietersen, Owais Shah, Ryan Sidebottom, Graeme Swann, James Tredwell, Chris Tremlett, Luke Wright. England Lions squad Michael Yardy (capt), Kabir Ali, Michael Carberry, Steven Davies, Joe Denly, James Hildreth, Ed Joyce, Graham Onions, Monty Panesar, Liam Plunkett, Adil Rashid, Alan Richardson, Jonathan Trott. And the fixtures |
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143no
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Final warning for running on the pitch Joined: 23 October 2006 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 2516 |
Posted: 04 January 2008 at 1:11pm |
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yet another aussie gets to play for england
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Monkey see, Monkey do.
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Max Power
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Joined: 19 April 2007 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 515 |
Posted: 04 January 2008 at 1:27pm |
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Surely Ambrose is just the stand in for Mustard?
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There's 2 ways of doing things - the right way, and the MAX POWER way!
BT&OBCC |
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Clobber
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Joined: 03 January 2006 Online Status: Offline Posts: 8255 |
Posted: 04 January 2008 at 2:20pm |
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I'd be genuinely astounded if Mustard wound up in the Test side, although I suppose he's the man in position as far as the ODI's go and if he makes a shedload of runs in those.....
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-JP-
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Joined: 21 January 2005 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6041 |
Posted: 04 January 2008 at 4:17pm |
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Ambrose was named in England Lions squads last year, so he hasn't really come from nowhere. Of course, he played under Moores at Sussex...
...the latest news is that Flintoff is supposedly 99% sure to go to India as a batsman. My money is on the 1%. Duleep Trophy fixtures: Arrive Jan 24 25 – 28 Jan 3 day practice match at CCI,
Mumbai 3rd Feb – 6th Feb Duleep Trophy vs
Central Zone in 11th – 14th Feb Duleep Trophy vs
West Zone in 19th – 23rd Feb Duleep Trophy
Finals in Mumbai (or three One-Day fixtures v opposition
tbc) Edited by -JP- - 04 January 2008 at 4:17pm |
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143no
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Final warning for running on the pitch Joined: 23 October 2006 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 2516 |
Posted: 04 January 2008 at 4:25pm |
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Flintoff couldn't be in the top 8 english batsmen could he? Surley. |
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Monkey see, Monkey do.
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Max Power
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Joined: 19 April 2007 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 515 |
Posted: 04 January 2008 at 4:53pm |
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Just thought I'd quote this here for 143:
Edited by Max Power - 04 January 2008 at 4:53pm |
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Max Power
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Joined: 19 April 2007 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 515 |
Posted: 04 January 2008 at 4:54pm |
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Its the England Lions (performance squad or presidents XI in other countries), so wont include the top 8 batsman but up and coming players etc. |
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143no
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Final warning for running on the pitch Joined: 23 October 2006 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 2516 |
Posted: 04 January 2008 at 5:00pm |
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Ahhh ok, makes more sense.
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Clobber
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Joined: 03 January 2006 Online Status: Offline Posts: 8255 |
Posted: 04 January 2008 at 5:03pm |
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I hope you are right - I'd be far happier seeing him wrapped up in cotton wool until the summer then playing regularly for Lancs. I have this awful vision of the Lions struggling in some Duleep match and Freddie striding up to Yardy going "give us the ball soft lad and let me send down a few" |
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-JP-
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Joined: 21 January 2005 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6041 |
Posted: 04 January 2008 at 5:40pm |
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Correction: the England Lions is the rebranded 'A' side so (hopefully) slightly better than a performance or President's XI. |
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bondy
Middle-Order Batsman
Joined: 10 December 2006 Location: New Zealand Online Status: Offline Posts: 4976 |
Posted: 04 January 2008 at 10:07pm |
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Looks as if New Zealand will be without a fit Shane Bond as he's almost certainly going to play for the rebel league.
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Good one Graham!
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samhache
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Joined: 05 March 2007 Location: New Zealand Online Status: Offline Posts: 2139 |
Posted: 05 January 2008 at 12:39am |
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Good to see Strauss getting the call up.
England should prove victors in the tests but NZ may have an advantage in the ODI's. Bond is a huge loss for NZ, however, Mills and Martin have somewhat consolidated and stepped up to the plate.
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Warriors!!
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NZ_Fast
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Joined: 21 August 2006 Location: New Zealand Online Status: Offline Posts: 1923 |
Posted: 05 January 2008 at 1:37am |
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Oh great i've got the 5th ODI, i guess that could be the decider, but id hedge my bets its just a dead rubber.
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samhache
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Joined: 05 March 2007 Location: New Zealand Online Status: Offline Posts: 2139 |
Posted: 05 January 2008 at 3:44am |
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We'll just have to see...anything could happen.
Edited by samhache - 05 January 2008 at 3:45am |
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joelza1990
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Joined: 06 January 2007 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 390 |
Posted: 05 January 2008 at 8:15am |
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That's disappointing to see Ed Joyce out of side. Just last year he was swaying Australia around the SCG, but unfortunately he wasn't able to cement a spot in the national side.
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bondy
Middle-Order Batsman
Joined: 10 December 2006 Location: New Zealand Online Status: Offline Posts: 4976 |
Posted: 05 January 2008 at 8:20am |
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ed joyce?? He's inconsistent and hopeless to say the least, I'm afraid he never looked comfortable opening the batting at international level.
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Good one Graham!
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joelza1990
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Joined: 06 January 2007 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 390 |
Posted: 05 January 2008 at 8:22am |
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Well he did last summer here, must have lost his way after that mark.
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samhache
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Joined: 05 March 2007 Location: New Zealand Online Status: Offline Posts: 2139 |
Posted: 05 January 2008 at 8:29am |
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Mal Loye was worse, he only had one shot.
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joelza1990
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Joined: 06 January 2007 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 390 |
Posted: 05 January 2008 at 9:45am |
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that guy was awful
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samhache
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Joined: 05 March 2007 Location: New Zealand Online Status: Offline Posts: 2139 |
Posted: 06 January 2008 at 9:00pm |
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Haha you got it, then there was Paul Nixon...the most annoying man on the planet. |
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The Tyke
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Joined: 24 May 2007 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 1282 |
Posted: 06 January 2008 at 9:29pm |
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He's constantly chirping in your ear but he's a legend. How many other people can hold a claim to have reverse swept Murali for a 6? Can a NZ say that? Edited by The Tyke - 06 January 2008 at 9:30pm |
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Minn hugur er minn sverđ (My mind is my sword)
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bondy
Middle-Order Batsman
Joined: 10 December 2006 Location: New Zealand Online Status: Offline Posts: 4976 |
Posted: 06 January 2008 at 11:41pm |
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McMillan's done it.
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Good one Graham!
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The Tyke
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Joined: 24 May 2007 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 1282 |
Posted: 06 January 2008 at 11:45pm |
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A reverse sweep for 6? I wasn't aware that McMillan even played the shot.
He always was more of a baton down the hatches sort of guy. When he was at the crease they should have given out protective helmets.
Hitting Murali for 6 is one thing but reverse sweeping him for 6 is another.
I'm sticking by my original predictions, as put in the predictions 2008 thread. I'm going for a drawn test series in NZ.
May go put a bet on it when it's closer to the time. Edited by The Tyke - 06 January 2008 at 11:49pm |
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bondy
Middle-Order Batsman
Joined: 10 December 2006 Location: New Zealand Online Status: Offline Posts: 4976 |
Posted: 07 January 2008 at 12:05am |
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In the ODI's NZ should have the wood over England, though the test series is likely to go England's way without the fearless Bond.
McMillan was the first NZ player I saw to use the shot and he used it well, however, he often threw his wicket away with the shot and that's why I've never been a big fan of it. He was a rash player when he was young, trying every shot in the book and had some success with it too! |
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Good one Graham!
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Sledger
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Dickenson can marry my mother-in-law ! Joined: 08 August 2005 Location: South Africa Online Status: Offline Posts: 14110 |
Posted: 07 January 2008 at 6:26am |
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Seven one dayers , sheer madness !! Strauss's
inclusion wasn't surprising and the omission of Prior didn't really
shock either. Clobs is right again though , just who will make
way for Strauss and what will be the order?
Could we be looking at Cook , Strauss , Bell , Pietersen , Vaughan , Collingwood ??? |
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Mental disintegration works for me !!
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-JP-
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Joined: 21 January 2005 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6041 |
Posted: 07 January 2008 at 8:34am |
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It's not seven, Sledge, it's five ODIs and two Twenty20s.
At least I hope not, else I'll be doing some frantic reworking of our radio schedule... |
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Sledger
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Dickenson can marry my mother-in-law ! Joined: 08 August 2005 Location: South Africa Online Status: Offline Posts: 14110 |
Posted: 07 January 2008 at 8:38am |
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Slightly better I suppose JP - still too much for me though and I
won't be getting out of bed for any of them. The tests are a
different matter though - I'll be a nocturnal animal for the duration!
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Mental disintegration works for me !!
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bondy
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Joined: 10 December 2006 Location: New Zealand Online Status: Offline Posts: 4976 |
Posted: 07 January 2008 at 8:46am |
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NZ will be slightly underdone for the tests one feels. Only two tests against Bangladesh isn't enough to find two decent openers, even though Bell made a convincing century against the struggling nation. |
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Good one Graham!
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Sledger
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Dickenson can marry my mother-in-law ! Joined: 08 August 2005 Location: South Africa Online Status: Offline Posts: 14110 |
Posted: 07 January 2008 at 8:49am |
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It'll be a close contest , but I do think that England have the
edge in both batting and bowling. Home advantage will narrow the gap
though.
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Mental disintegration works for me !!
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