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bullet Posted: 15 April 2005 at 12:44am
Originally posted by swerveman

OK, now I'm upset!  I just spent time and effort getting a post together, then lost the whole thing by going off to get more information.  Infuriating!  I know how JALRC feels.

I'm entering this into a Notepad window, and I'll copy and paste when I'm finished.  It's not likely to be as long, but that's probably a blessing!

Yeah that's the thing i didn't do (copying it first even though not neccessarily needing to re paste it anywhere) knowing that something wasn't quite right. I don't know whether it was the same thing with you but i think mine was a case of being times out. I have tried to get the post back and dunno whether i can or not yet though it is unlikely. I did check and it did give me the option to log out above so i thought i must have been logged in even though i wasn't sure and i was making my post like i am now so i must have been logged in to be able to do that but when i submitted the post the response came back that i wasn't logged in. Anyhow later that same day i came back to the forums and i know i hadn't logged in and yet when i accessed the forums i found myself already logged in, as an active member, and not only once but twice. So it read that there were 2 active members of which both were JALRC! Bizzarre or what? I think there may have been a slight glitch with the SQL server or hosts of the forums being down or something on that day but i think its sorted out now. Never mind these things happen.

Originally posted by Swerveman

I'm with Inducker on the rotation of umpires issue.  The pressure can get very high over a 5 day test match, and I can't see a good reason why the third umpire can't share it.  They're all highly qualified, after all.

Yeah they are all equally qualified but the idea is just not feesable and while their job performance is satosfactory there is no easy way to reduce their actual performance quantity and density as officials or downgrade their workload to word it causally without offending them and causing them to feel discriminated upon as they don't actually want the change and under certain employers bounds of jurisdictions you can only downgrade mass workers schedules if it is requested, if there is poor performance in the performance or excecution of the (or duties) of the job or if legal laws state the amount of time being spent working by the individuals concerned is too much. Its all legal wranglings and basically even if the ICC wanted to do this (which they don't) they couldn't without a minor miracle which was basically what i was explaining the in the post i lost but that had all the official legislative statutes and so on which actually explained it all in detail and was very long winded and difficult to both explain and understand if you don't have knowledge of these things and i actually don't as civil liberties and employee's rights and so on i have no interest in. Activism is something i can't stand to be honest.

Originally posted by Swerveman

Duckworth/Lewis is the fairest method yet devised to decide an interrupted game.  Were they students?  I thought they were lecturers.  It doesn't really matter.

Yeah proffessors if you really have to get down into it and the research was done by the students to proove that rain affects so many games that can be mathematically manipulated into a result and the actual lecturers produced the system to help rain affected games. The students only helped point out the problem and had nothing to do with the solution, they just wanted one and didn't do anything to do with the creation of one. As you said though itdoesn't really matter.


Originally posted by Swerveman

Originally posted by JALRC

The ICC is in the proccess of trying to get copyrighting rights to the program and the formula and then it would of course become interlectual property of the ICC.

Really?  It's pretty much in the public domain now, isn't it?  The tables are available to download in PDF format, and the CODA program is easy enough for scorers to get hold of:

a PC computer program called CODA is available from
ASQM Consultancy Unit (D/L)
Faculty of Computer Studies & Mathematics
University of the West of England
Frenchay
Bristol
BS16 1QY
United Kingdom
Price £29.95 (plus £1.50 P&P or £2.50 overseas)

Yeah but unfortunately if you want to use it to help you out in anyway you still have to pay licensing rights to use it in an act of public service of which giving revised totals in a weather affected cricket match, fits into that catergory. That's why the ICC want it to be rightfully theirs so they don't have to shell out anymore just to use it. Originally the EU's Comptetition Commission wouldn't allow the system bought by the ICC to be implemented under their name to be used anywhere within the EU or EC (if indeed the ICC did gain controlling rights over the software) which includes the United Kingdom of Great Britain under Anti-Trust regulations and so on so the ICC agreed not to have an apparent abuse of powers by agreeing not to charge anybody else there after for use of the property. All a load of nonsense and what the hell the EU had doing sticking their noss in the affair god only knows. Its just a load of legislative nonsense. Mostly formailites now actually.



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bullet Posted: 15 April 2005 at 5:59am
Originally posted by JALRC

Just a shame you don't...



You still want the last word huh! Not content with censoring my reply to your egocentric statement about your vast cricket knowledge?

If you want a truce here , then underhanded digs like this one isn't going to achieve that!

I'm quite comfortable with my command of the English language JAL , you'd do well to keep snide comments to yourself.

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bullet Posted: 15 April 2005 at 10:06am
Originally posted by Inducker

Originally posted by JALRC

Just a shame you don't...



You still want the last word huh!

No yeah that's fair enough you can have the final word, you can even claim that your knowledge is superior to mine and you can even claim your English to be superior to mine if it makes you feel happy. Satisfied? I hope that is the end of that.

Originally posted by Inducker

Not content with censoring my reply to your egocentric statement about your vast cricket knowledge?

Ah yes now that post. You see as i said above you may say your knowledge and you English is superior and you may claim to have the last word and so on but you do not have the right to abuse any other poster or member of the forums and you certainly do not have any right to make derogatory comments about the people of an antire nation! I made a response about my knowledge which was not even aimed at you and you responded with such comments with "what is it about all Americans" and "only by pigheads like you lot" and so on and you can count yourself lucky that all i did was delete the posts and take no further action. I even to be fair to you didn't bring it up or make an issue of it hoping the situation would be diffused and boil over but you do insist on bringing it back up. Let me make it clear though that such a level of abuse won't be tolerated to either any specific individual or or to any group of individuals irrelevant of your reason behind the post or who it was aimed at.

Originally posted by Inducker

If you want a truce here , then underhanded digs like this one isn't going to achieve that!

I'm quite comfortable with my command of the English language JAL , you'd do well to keep snide comments to yourself.

Yeah like i said i am more than willing to let you claim to have the last word and to have claimed to have won an argument and so on. My response to you not understanding the language was insinuated by you claiming that i neither understood the language as i wasn't "from Britain" and that i didn't answer your question due to my difficulties in understanding the language. I won't rise to your bait in trying to draw me into arguments and you can claim to have whatever victories you want or anythng like that but abuse of others whoever it is won't be tolerated on the forums.



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