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spin wizard 
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 Topic: Group A (Aus, RSA, Scotland, Holland)Posted: 22 March 2007 at 1:56pm |
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Word already has it that it is a sell out!
Dear me, I have missed a lot on the forum due to the matches. SA carnage of both Scotland and Netherland with the bat was predictable for me! St. Kitts has a very good surface that is suited to the ODI's. You can pick the balls of a good length and the boundaries have to be the shortest in the world and it's ridiculous!! Aussie have a spinner and the proteas don't - would that be a big difference on Saturday - we will know soon!
All in all, I expect a good match but on the other hand, the hyped up matches does more than often be one sided! Anyways, these 2 sides put on a good show in both of their 99 match but I feel the 99 side for SA was much better.
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In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage.
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Clobber
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Posted: 22 March 2007 at 7:42pm |
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Well that was pretty disappointing! A disastrous top order performance left us far too much to do, especially as the batting conditions eased up significantly as our innings progressed (by which time about 6 were back in the hutch) and we were so far behind the 8 ball at that stage that even a few dubious decisions from Asoka de Silva can't be held responsible for our crushing defeat.
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scuudz
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Posted: 22 March 2007 at 8:34pm |
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That guy is still umpiring?? Oh man. He has to be one of the worst umpires I have seen as far as getting the decisions right go. I was surprised by the easy victory for the Netherlands. Graeme Smith had recently picked Scotland to win. Wonder who I had on my list.
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venom2011
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Posted: 22 March 2007 at 10:38pm |
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I think it could go either way. I think SA will attack Hogg and with those small boundaries it will make things much easier. I would rather play a medium pacer than an average spinner on that pitch. |
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daisy77
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Posted: 22 March 2007 at 10:52pm |
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Yeah I agree the match could go either way.....but doesn't South Africa have players that can bowl a little spin?? I don't mean a specialist spinner but just someone that does the trick.
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spin wizard
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Posted: 23 March 2007 at 12:30am |
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the turn may be the only factor to deceive persons as the ball isn't seaming and just the first few overs is swinging.
I agree though that they might go after hogg with the short boundaries. On the other hand, Hogg is in fine form and his wrong uns are as good as they can get.
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In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage.
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Sledger
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Posted: 23 March 2007 at 5:29am |
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Disappointing end to the tournament for the Scots. They underperformed
with bat and ball whilst the Dutch played very well. I'll go with Clobs
though , de Silva was atrocious and the plumbest of LBW's off Brown's
bowling was turned down - why?????
He didn't affect the result though , they were well beaten. |
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Mental disintegration works for me !!
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Aussietrumpet
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Posted: 23 March 2007 at 8:44am |
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I stand corrected, a mistake on my part indeed....SAF will make NO
more than 150.Hoggy will do well ...and watch out for Hodge (shame White isn't playing )
gee my crystal ball....eats batteries like a kid eats lollies. Now where's me windex! 
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Sledger
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Posted: 23 March 2007 at 9:50am |
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You're building yourself up for a great fall matey !!!
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Mental disintegration works for me !!
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venom2011
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Posted: 23 March 2007 at 12:43pm |
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lol....im with sledger on this one
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Chin Music
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Posted: 23 March 2007 at 1:09pm |
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It's not likely to be a walkover for either side is it? I suppose i fancy Australia on balance, but it's tough to call...I think if Safrica win the toss and stick Aus in they'll be in a better position than they will batting first since I don't think Australia have the bowling to confidently defend anything below a big total
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Migara
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Aussietrumpet
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Posted: 24 March 2007 at 6:35am |
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Hogg ....  Anyway, we've got a secret weapon......Age and Experience.(I hope  )by the way all jokes aside should be a great match tonight ... I wouldnt be the least suprised if South Africa are fired up from the get go about Bob Woolmer and will want to put in a good performance as it will help come semi finals. Plenty of talent on both sides. this will be the match of the world cup. The result of this tie will have great impact on how these two teams WC campaign proceeds. Anyway cant wait, the biggest game of the cup so far and plus Roy Symonds is returning for the Aussies. Expect a cracker game but hoping Australia to prevail. (or Im gonna cop it here big time ) Cmon Australia  Edited by Aussietrumpet - 24 March 2007 at 6:57am |
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IbiZZle
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Posted: 24 March 2007 at 8:48am |
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Everyone up there has made good points.
I have my eye on Andrew Symonds...no not his good looks and physique. But rather his performance, assuming he is in form on the return from his injury absence...(well my words may fall short)...but with him in the OZ line-up, "Australia will reign Supreme". Also, I would pick Australia to bat first if they were to win the toss. They have got a Monstrous batting line-up. Their fielding & Bowling is decent, but if their batters can mount an assault close to 280+, than in my opinion should give SA enough to work on. Ok that is all for now...
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BOBBI
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Posted: 24 March 2007 at 12:23pm |
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He will still have a bit to prove. I cant wait for the first ball of the match for Smith to blast it backward of point and for Symonds to give us the trademark panther like save to silence the doubters. If Symonds does something magial early, the Aussies are home. We will grow ten foot tall and the SA mob will worry. Would love to see McGrath and Pollock falter today and for Tait to answer his critics by producing some feiry spells. SA have a long batting line up but not the class of others. Gibbs and Boucher are the only two along with Kallis (who is slow though) that I rate.
Having said all that, I hope a score of 165 wins so we can see how they will both lpay under real pressure. Having to score at 7 an over from the outset is not real pressure. Only having 170 odd to defend is pressure.
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daisy77
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Posted: 24 March 2007 at 3:43pm |
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Amazing batting by Hayden. Good bowling by Kallis to get rid of Hayden. However, the boundaries are still coming never mind that Hayden is out. Ponting has taken over from where he has left out. Hopefully South Africa can take some quick wickets.
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daisy77
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Posted: 24 March 2007 at 9:38pm |
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Australia has won by 83 runs.....Bad day for Pollock with the ball and bat.....Maybe the turning point in SA's innings was when Smith got cramps and had to go off......
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Posted: 24 March 2007 at 10:04pm |
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Was a cracking game for all involved! I think the turning point of De Villiers run out and also Smith's cramps. Lovely performance by the Top 4 batsman, and awesome boundary hitting from Hayden. SA completely collapsed from 2-220 odd to end up 294 all out. I think Smith's decision for Australia to bat first was purely on the Johannesburg game, he believed in chasing and boy they started off well!
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scuudz
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Posted: 24 March 2007 at 10:30pm |
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Someone stop the Aussies!!!!!!!
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Aussietrumpet
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Posted: 25 March 2007 at 6:19am |
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We won by 83 runs
By my reckoning, the we only have to beat Bangladesh or whoever it is they play in the super 8 stage next week in the WC match to reclaim our number one ranking at the top of the ODI Table. South Africa were to be commended in snatching the mantle from us for a short period, but the true measure of a champion team is the length of time you can stay at the top of the sport. Edited by Aussietrumpet - 25 March 2007 at 6:20am |
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BOBBI
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Posted: 25 March 2007 at 12:23pm |
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Just glad Kallis did not let me down. I was quite happy to see him enter when he did.
Good signs from Bracken as usual but Tait, Watson and Hogg found their feet today
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daisy77
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Posted: 25 March 2007 at 2:09pm |
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West Indies will be trying very hard to put a stab in their world cup campaign coming Tuesday!!!
 I just hope that the windies could beat them!!! |
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daisy77
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Posted: 25 March 2007 at 2:14pm |
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You are glad Kallis did not let you down???? I don't think he made a great impression on the game with the bat yesterday!!! In my opinion there were only two South African batsmen that were super yesterday and that was AB Devilliers and G.Smith. Kemp really played mess yesterday!! It's in situations like those, that you need Kemp to come in and hit a few fours and sixed to bring down the required run rate and increase the current run rate but he really failed big time yesterday....doesn't it remind you a bit about how Dhoni made duck in the game against Sri Lanka when India desperately need to win??? The only thing is that RSA does not have to pay as dearly has India for their lose.
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That's precisely the point he's making Daisy. A lot of blame for SA's defeat is being put down to Kallis scoring so slowly, which put pressure on all the other batsmen to try and make up for his efforts. What I saw of the game I enjoyed - fantastic intent by the Aussies right from the off matched by Smith and De Villiers at the top of the SA innings. |
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spin wizard
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Posted: 25 March 2007 at 8:10pm |
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I enjoyed the match a lot. Aussie carnaged the bowlers and them all over the park. Hall bowled the best for the proteas bowlers. He is one of the best death bowlers around although he is no where near the best bowler. Clarke's brilliant improvisation is what helped the aussies to that massive total. Hall and Kallis I thought bowled well to the latter stages considering the pitches conditions but Clarke's brilliance made a different and it was a surperb knock.
De Villers and Smith butchered the Aussie attack but that Magnificent run out from Watson changed the game. Smith cramping made the momentum go completely away from the proteas. Kallis game is not to slog and that was a massive difference in the end.
Hogg is in good form guys. Look out poor players of spin!
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Mojo
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Posted: 26 March 2007 at 8:19am |
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Great win by the Aussies. SA had the game in the palms of their hands, and literally gave it away. The DeVilliers run-out was absolutely stunning. Watson should've gotten the man of the match for that throw, which I believe led to the demise of the SA team.
Kallis really needs to change gears out of Test mode into ODI mode. What was he doing out there?
And perhaps the most relevent question of all: Why the heck is Kemp in the side? He hasn't done anything for SA in a long time. I say pull Kemp off, push DeVilliers into his position, and move Bosman into the opening slot. I'm sure Bosman would do far better than Kemp. (Judging on domestic performance). I hope Graeme Smith has the guts to experiment with his options during the Super 8's. Kemp needs to go back home.
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Great win by ausies, Infact they have again showed us that never count them out of the match till the last ball has been bowled.
The match was all but won with a 160 runs partenership upfront and I expected a 10 wickets win for SA as they were really cruising, but the run out of Abe was the biggest turn around. Once you give an inch they take meeters away and in no time, the same team which could not find a decent bowler in the first half of the match ended up with all winners eventually.
What a spirit , fighting ability and courage byAusies! So still the tag of chockers lingering on the africans, can they shun this habit of losing cruntch games ?
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so far so good!
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I don't think Smith is the problem. I think it's Mickey Arthur who has absolutely no sense of adventure. When last did he juggle the SA batting order beyond something stupid like sending Boucher in ahead of Prince with 5 overs to go? Neither Kallis nor Prince should have been sent in when they were on Saturday and SA paid for it. |
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Posted: 26 March 2007 at 3:49pm |
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Thank you Clobb for your understanding of my post.
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venom2011
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Yes you are right....he hasn't done anything for a while except that 10 matches ago he rescued South Africa, by scoring 100 off 89 balls against India when SA were in trouble. And in his last 10 games, he has also only batted 5 times. SA's top order have been scoring all the runs, so he hasn't even had a real chance to bat. |
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Group A (Aus, RSA, Scotland, Holland)