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spin wizard
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The world’s next great spinner Joined: 21 January 2006 Location: Saint Vincent Online Status: Offline Posts: 9453 |
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Topic: Group A DiscussionPosted: 02 March 2011 at 12:53pm |
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The only way to bat Malinga is to keep on moving either forward or backward in your crease. Many the yorker won't allows be the same if he keeps on aiming for the blackhole. Step out now and again, you might meet it on the full, go deep in the crease, you might be able to whip it away, it's something that I've seen Sachin Tendulkar do to him and played him fantastically well. If you can't do those stuff, then God help you against him, especially when he comes back with the field spread!
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vote4peace
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Posted: 03 March 2011 at 3:59am |
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Well Spin Whiz, what do you know, you've just solved the mystery.
True, But A lot easier said than done.
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I distrust a camel.. and anyone else who can go a week without a drink.
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 03 March 2011 at 10:32am |
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Familiar - 64 for 4 Pakistan in 16 overs. I will be surprised if we end up playing the full quota. I think the Ireland match was not the only upset of the tournament - more is on offer.
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 03 March 2011 at 12:33pm |
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184 all out - England cannot take it over from us. We will provide an ever bigger upset folks.
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Amal
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Posted: 03 March 2011 at 12:34pm |
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Here we go. Next upset is on the cards.Shambolic performance by Pakistan. They played sluggish shots,chased wide deliveries. After all it is Pakistani team, we can expect this kind of performances from them. Yup credit goes to Canada for creating a pressure on them.
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Amal
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Posted: 03 March 2011 at 12:40pm |
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Zuhair is there any chance? Can we defend it? As pitch has a little bit bounce and looks good for spinners also.
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 03 March 2011 at 12:43pm |
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Not too sure - we can defend this - but that is not the point. You just can't get out on 184 on this track inside 43 overs. And it was more the ordinary batting than extraordinary bowling that did it.
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Amal
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Posted: 03 March 2011 at 12:47pm |
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Yup true, the way Pakistan batted was awful
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sam_ahmed
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Posted: 03 March 2011 at 4:37pm |
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PAK win thanks to another star performance by Afridi with the ball, 14 wickets now for him in 3 games!!!
Never doubted the win, even when CAN were 100 odd for 3 but yes I was not very happy with the way PAK batted, you can get away with it against CAN but not in a KO game against tougher opponents. Hopefully this was that one bad game with the bat and they won't repeat. |
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vote4peace
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Posted: 04 March 2011 at 5:57am |
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Whoa!!! The match turned out to be much more interesting than anticipated. I must confess there was a point when i did think we were going to witness the 2nd big upset of the tournament.
That man again Captain Marvel leading his troops from the front with his leg-spin cum medium-pace seam bowling. The Canadians had no clue what-so-ever. Batting a touch of bother but like sam had said they could have just got the bad performance out of the way.. |
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 04 March 2011 at 5:58am |
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That is hoping against the hope Sam. The openers have been exposed and Ahmed Shahzad is likely to sit out and they will strengthen the middle order with Shafiq and play Kamran as an opener. Pakistan should try and finish in the top 2 to make the most of the QF stage.
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sam_ahmed
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Posted: 04 March 2011 at 4:48pm |
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No Zuhair, the batting is long and I do not expect them to falter so easily again. Having Younus and Misbah is a big advantage and I think Umer Akmal is finally starting to show some maturity. Also remember Razzaq is there at 8, just in case things go wrong.
About the openers I agree that they have been below par, but I have more faith in Shahzad than in Shafiq. There is no point in bringing in another "slow" player in the middle order, Shahzad is fine, has hit two centuries not so long ago, let us give him more time. However, had it been Malik, I'd have preferred him over Shahzad. Still think they made a mistake by leaving him out. |
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1Daz
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Posted: 05 March 2011 at 11:04am |
Cant see Pakistan getting past the qf's after the Canada game. They got some awesome talent in that team but are just to inconsistent. Too much baggage.
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 05 March 2011 at 11:27am |
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Not really mate. Pakistan will try hard to finish in the top 2 - and whoever Pakistan faces in the QF - wont be that tough. I clearly see Pak in the semis. Anybody's form there on though.
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Amal
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Posted: 05 March 2011 at 5:30pm |
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Hmm I hope our batting line up just had a bad day against Canada.
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sam_ahmed
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Posted: 05 March 2011 at 5:40pm |
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so SLN-AUS is a washout and although it is going completely unnoticed,
SLN have managed just 5 points from 4 games, they now have only 2 games
left, one against NZL and one against ZIM. They better be careful.
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sam_ahmed
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Posted: 05 March 2011 at 5:56pm |
problem is that in the other group things are so tight that we do not know which team will fall where. no matter who PAK play I'll be very nervous for that game, I'm more nervous about the quarters than the semis actually. I hope IRE qualify and PAK face them in QF's, surely they won't slip up against them twice in a WC. It can happen if PAK qualify 1st and IRE 4th. I do not fancy IRE to go through though, it could well be a toss up between ENG and BAN, I'm expecting BAN to come back very hard against ENG now, so ENG's game tomorrow will be very important! |
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Amal
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Posted: 05 March 2011 at 6:00pm |
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Big game went unnoticed
I Want one more tie hehehe
Anyway Big games tomorrow, SA vs ENG and INDIA vs IRELAND. Fate of England will be decided tomorrow. Wish them GOOD LUCK!!!!!!! |
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1Daz
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Posted: 05 March 2011 at 9:13pm |
Every one was saying that the match was evenly balanced when it was rained off but I think Sri Lanka were clear favourites, Bowling second with those spinners on a turnin pitch and being 146/3 after 32 overs.
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sam_ahmed
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Posted: 06 March 2011 at 8:02am |
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absolutely SLN were firm favts, and Daz the way it has been raining in SLN over the last 6-8 months, I think we are lucky that this was the first washout we have had there.
Thankfully PAK have already got 6 points, so I care less about their games getting washed out now, even if they do they'll get a point for every game so no worries now. |
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Posted: 07 March 2011 at 6:31pm |
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CAN beat KEN in the battle of minnows, KEN become the first team to get eliminated from the WC. CAN theoretically are still alive!
NZL v PAK tomorrow in what is expected to be a fast surface with some bounce and a tinge of green. I was thinking if PAK should go in with three pacers and drop a batsmen, even going further into the tournament it won't actually be a bad idea. That batsmen unfortunately will have to be Shahzad. PAK should play to their strength and that is their bowling. Abdur Rahman is a classified all rounder and he coming in at 8 and Razzaq promoted to 6 is not a bad idea at all. What I am saying is that the following line up will give PAK a good balance and I will feel safe playing this unit because I know that this unit is capable of defending anything. Hafeez Kamran Younus Misbah Umer Akmal Razzaq Afridi Abdur Rahman Wahab Riaz Gul AKhtar. Moreover Riaz and Gul can bat, it is unlikely that one extra batsmen will win you games, I think PAK should go with this come the KO's. it will give them more options with the ball and just a gut feeling that the team will be better this way. I doubt if they'll do though! :( Edited by sam_ahmed - 07 March 2011 at 6:33pm |
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Ahmed
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Posted: 07 March 2011 at 7:04pm |
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^100% agree with this line up.
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Amal
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Posted: 08 March 2011 at 4:28am |
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Yup Sam, this lineup looks strong.Betting and fielding is a big worry for Pakistan now. We are dependent on two people, Afridi in bowling and Misbah in batting and this is not a good sign. We can't afford to rely on only these two specially in case of batting. Other batsmen have to come good now. We need solid opening partnership against NZ but this is not looking possible even today because according to news they are going with same openers(Ahmad and Hafiz). I hope that these two openers click this time.
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Posted: 08 March 2011 at 5:48am |
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Amal's right , Afridi's contribution has been a major factor in Pakistan's good start , ably supported by Misbah's batting. To win one dayers , a couple of outstanding contributions can get you over the line (remember Gilchrist last final) , but it'll settle the nerves of the fans and players alike if those contributions were from different players in different games!
New Zealand would do well to be cautious against Afridi's legspin and take it to others - I think Riaz can go around the park and Shoaib's pace often leads to edged boundaries. The battle between Misbah , Younus and Vettori could be crucial and I don't see either batsman taking liberties. Bennet's been taking wickets , but he can travel as well. Should be a good match and I wouldn't bet my house on it , but Pakistan are probably slight favourites. |
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Posted: 08 March 2011 at 5:50am |
Amal , I'm sure this is a typo , but it did make me laugh !! ![]() |
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 08 March 2011 at 6:00am |
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It would have made perfect sense somewhere in the middle of last year - so Amal please revisit your stance.
I think NZL have it in them to surprise Pakistan. Pakistan will not play Riaz - they will stick to the team that beat Sri Lanka and that is fine for the time being. Batting first will be a huge advantage as there is nothing much between the two teams. |
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Posted: 08 March 2011 at 6:03am |
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Zuhair , with 6 points in the bag will that give Pakistan plenty of confidence to just go out there and win , or make them complacent and revert to the bad old ways ?
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Posted: 08 March 2011 at 9:07am |
All ova for u Pakistanis!
Dam... McCullums out in the first ova...
I apoligise in advance guys... I've had a few rums already
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Posted: 08 March 2011 at 9:09am |
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Ross Taylor looks nervous as already! (still in the sheds I know)9/1 after 2 ovas... I'm not feeling to confident!
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Posted: 08 March 2011 at 9:55am |
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Nice confident start form the Kiwis after the early McCullum blow. THis p pitch looks a batting paradise and 270 wont be safe here. Pakistan, however will be chasing first time in the tournament and that can be tricky under lights.
How's struggle at the crease ends as I write. He was really struggling there. Taylor and Guppy are the key to NZL's chances. Its 50-50 as the moment and I expect it to go down to the wire. |
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