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    Posted: 08 March 2011 at 10:03am
And Kamran Akmal continues to impress - the Kiwis. What a sitter - vital drop catch - Akhatr's confidence will dip.
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And another one dropped - even easier - all in the space of 2 deliveries.
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ross taylor got his birthday present, such a lovely guy kamran akmal is !!!!!!!!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote 1Daz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 March 2011 at 10:32am
jamie how... 4 runs off 29 deliveries. Taylor needs to make the most of this opportunity now! to easy catches gone begging. Dam Ryder out again...I seriously hope he dont turn into another Oram.

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I think NZL are all set to post a decent total at 80/2 after 20 overs. This pitch will ease out in the later stages. And boy can you ask for better birthday gift than the two that Taylor got from Akmal. What a champion.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote 1Daz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 March 2011 at 10:39am
Taylors starting to find the middle..Playin himself into form perhaps.
  Pakistan maybe made to pay for not taking those easy catches earlier on.Big%20smile


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Originally posted by zuhair_abbasi

I think NZL are all set to post a decent total at 80/2 after 20 overs. This pitch will ease out in the later stages. And boy can you ask for better birthday gift than the two that Taylor got from Akmal. What a champion.
Think they need to step it up a notch... Guptill 40 off 70 probally aint really good enough on this pitch,  We need 280 minimum on gthis pitch i'd say.
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That is still possible with 8 wickets in hand - I'd say advantage NZL at this stage. Afridi wont take 5-for every time he bowls mate.
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That is still possible with 8 wickets in hand - I'd say advantage NZL at this stage. Afridi wont take 5-for every time he bowls mate.
..As Afridi bowls Guptill. Lets see what Franklin can do, is a good player against spin.
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That is still possible with 8 wickets in hand - I'd say advantage NZL at this stage. Afridi wont take 5-for every time he bowls mate.
..As Afridi bowls Guptill. Lets see what Franklin can do, is a good player against spin.
uummm.. ok, lets see how styris goes.
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ROSS tAYLOR IS DA MAN!Big%20smile
Thats how its done boys, Lets see what you guys got..

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Can you believe that? 85 runs added in a matter of 22 balls, brutal brutal!
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We have got Kamran Akmal mate. No way we are chasing down this one. Hundered came off the last 5 overs - has to be a record.
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In a pin-drop silence, guess who drops the pin?


kamran akmal ofcourse!!
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And now the kiwis are backing it up up in the field!ClapNZ going very well.. pak 38/4 afta 12
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Ridiculous Ridiculous display by Pakistan. Thanks God I missed the NZ innings, had to attend a 3 hr lecture on Entrepreneurship by a German professor.
I hate Kamran Akmal, he dropped Taylor twice and he went on to score a century for NZ.I can't believe this. I can't see him in my team any more. Afridi already made Ajmal useless by asking him to bowl in last overs and now he is doing this with Rehman, Crap captaincy by him. If Akhtar was not totally fit, there was no need to consider him for today's match when you have two more options available. By the way what is the role of Razzak? Management is making him useless. He is not a bowling allrounder please for God. If they want to include him, he should play at number 3 i think. As Sam was saying we need one more bowler, we can't expect from Afridi to take wickets in every match.
No body language, same mistakes in every game. They don't know how to bat, their bowling has been exposed today. This team stands nowhere.
From here NZ will win by a big margin because i don't think so that after so much for them on the field Pakistani team are even in their senses.

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Originally posted by Amal

Ridiculous Ridiculous display by Pakistan. Thanks God I missed the NZ innings, had to attend a 3 hr lecture on Entrepreneurship by a German professor.
I hate Kamran Akmal, he dropped Taylor twice and he went on to score a century for NZ.I can't believe this. I can't see him in my team any more. Afridi already made Ajmal useless by asking him to bowl in last overs and now he is doing this with Rehman, Crap captaincy by him. If Akhtar was not totally fit, there was no need to consider him for today's match when you have two more options available. By the way what is the role of Razzak? Management is making him useless. He is not a bowling allrounder please for God. If they want to include him, he should play at number 3 i think. As Sam was saying we need one more bowler, we can't expect from Afridi to take wickets in every match.
No body language, same mistakes in every game. They don't know how to bat, their bowling has been exposed today. This team stands nowhere.
From here NZ will win by a big margin because i don't think so that after so much for them on the field Pakistani team are even in their senses.

After seeing how well Misbah played and captained the side against Nz in the recent series in nz I couldn't beleive they gave the captaincy to afridi for the world cup...sure Afridi is an awesome all round player but why try to fix some thing that aint broke, Pakistan always seem to comp[licate things..Why? thats the way I see it any way.

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66 for 6.......sounds like an iron maiden track!!
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This team is surrounded by Morons actually, 1Daz. When you have people like Ijaz but on top, anything is expected.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote 1Daz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 March 2011 at 2:54pm
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This team is surrounded by Morons actually, 1Daz. When you have people like Ijaz but on top, anything is expected.
So how much input does Waqar have on this side??? Or is he there just for show?
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This has to be like the 100th occasion when Kamran has lost PAK a game, well done Kammu your record can never be broken by anybody, you are a champion mate!
 
Such a pathetic situation that PAK do not have a keeper batsmen better than Kamran. How on earth can Kamran be called as a keeper?

No need to come hard on Afridi guyz, and no need for a captaincy debate Amal, let us not get too harsh on them after just one defeat. It is good that it has come now rather than in the KO's.

PAK need to consider playing one extra bowler in place of Shahzad, esp if Abdur Rahman is playing. Razzaq is such a good player, he needs to bat higher up and I'd like to see this change against ZIM.
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One last point, Afridi said that he would want to play his KO games in SLN or BAN, I;d say the last place I'd want to play my KO game will be the Premadasa where batting second is a significant disadvantage. You would not want to enter a KO game hoping you win the toss. BAN and IND on the other hand will provide much more level playing fields.

PAK should ensure they finish in such a position that they do not get to play at the Premadasa neither the QF's nor the SF's.
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PAK should ensure they finish in such a position that they do not get to play at the Premadasa neither the QF's nor the SF's.


 Sam , be grateful Pakistan have 6 points and will be in the quarter finals !  I've been highly critical of England's bowling in the first two matches , but last night's effort by Shoaib,Razzak and Rehman at the death was unspeakably awful.  This was the old Pakistan at their worst and along with Akmal's hapless wicketkeeping made them the laughing stock of the competition.   I was beginning to think this group of players were laying the ghost to rest of Pakistan's pathetic , even suspicious displays - now I'm not so sure.     Taylor , McCullum and Oram didn't explode at the death - they didn't have to , any decent club cricketer could have cleared the rope off the dross that was sent down - it was a disgrace and what was obvious to me was the bowlers didn't care.
             Any team can have a poor game , can drop the intensity after qualifying but that didn't happen here.    Until the 44th over , Akmal's blunders apart , Pakistan were doing okay and the match was in the balance.   But then the next 16 overs or so sealed Pakistan's fate - and NZ had little part in it.   It was inevitable that the Pakistani top order would implode - and this is not after the event , at the pub I told all and sundry that the top 4 or 5 won't get the total past 50 - I know this Pakistan ! 
           It's obvious that I'm angry because cricket has lost credibility once again and Pakistan are the culprits yet again. In the last WC it was against Ireland when they imploded and now this - it infuriates me.  
           The ICC must ask questions because this wasn't simply poor cricket , it was way beyond that - this was bringing the game into disrepute.
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Come on Sledge - now that is going too far. I know they played poor cricket, but that was that from what I saw. The captaincy was poor in the beginning - they should have bowled Razzaq in the beginning - there is no use of him at the death as we all know. Have to agree Shoaib was just poor in that last spell.

What followed was inevitable, as Sledge said. We do not have regular openers in our side - most players are playing on make shift positions. While chasing down big scores - there is no point holding back Razzaq at 8 when he has to come at 66/6. But this is all I see from this match - it was just poor poor cricket from Pakistan - and nothing beyond that - for sure.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sledger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 March 2011 at 6:30am
I'm a little calmer now mate !   Okay they were simply awful , but will there be changes now ?  I've been through plenty of papers to get Waqar's comments and can't find a single quote !  Has he said anything on Pakistani TV or radio - he didn't look very happy.
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Yes he came on Pakistan TV last night and shared the disappointment. He could not justify the point to open the attack with Rehman and leaving Razzaq for the Power Play. On Kamran, he said we cannot make changes in the middle of the tournamnet. I personally think they should allow Umar to keep wickets and play an extra bowler or batsman whatever the situation demands.. Kamran is h not scoring runs either - so no point playing him merely;y as a batsman, on which basis he has held to the spot so often.

But we cant put all the blame on Akmal despite the awful show that he put - the bowling in the last 5 overs was horrible. Low full tosses and half volleys. have to also give credit to Taylor, it does not happen every other day that you score 100 runs in 5 overs - that was a pretty special knock irrespective of the fact that Pakistan bowled poorly.

Pakistan need to think quick - and when they chase big totals they have to give Razzaq ample time to set the stage - he is the most likely guy to win it while chasing . All is not lost though, I am disappointed but sort of used to such situations now. Hoping Pakistan will make a roaring comeback. Fingers crossed.
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Being a Pakistani supporter must be as tough as it gets. Beat the highly rated Sri Lankans in their own back garden and then battered by an average New Zealand side.  What chance against Australia - a side who have a tremendous one day record against Pakistan?     They'll probably belt Ponting and company !!
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Exactly - I have not ruled Pakistan out just yet. They might play the same strategy, same players yet come out winners. that's right - it is extremely tough to be a Pakistan fan. But have to disagree here with you, NZL are not an average side - they never are at least in the WCs - forget their recent performances, they do have good enough players to beat good teams on their day and yesterday was one such day. They are better than average in my view.
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Magnifico Ross!!! Simply Magnifico!! Bravo man take a Bow!!
Superb stuff by Ross, seemed to be really struggling early in the innings and before coming into this match. But we all know what a class he is. Surely one of the Top 10 in the world at the moment, atleast in terms of talent. What that innings has done is that NZ finally register their 1st win in the sub-continent after a string of 10-11 losses against the test sides.
Damn just when i thought NZ would be the safest bet in the QF.

Lot of Q's to be answered for Pakistan. Death bowling one of them. Thought Afridi got through Gul's quota a touch too early. Razzaq is simply not the answer in the death.
I agree with earlier comments Pakistan one bowler short. Will have quiet a few flaws to iron out before that Australia game.
And what do i say that has not been said of Kamran. Hmmmm...
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