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zuhair_abbasi 
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 Topic: Group B (Sri Lanka, India, Bangladesh, Bermuda)Posted: 14 February 2007 at 10:31am |
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Somebody pointed out rightly that this is the only group to look for upsets!! India will face the challenge of thier lives from Bangladesh!! I will not be surprised if india fails to proceed in the super 8
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daisy77
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Posted: 15 February 2007 at 12:32am |
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Well after today's performance against SL it does not look like if they would have a hard time beating Bang...
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spin wizard
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Posted: 15 February 2007 at 1:49am |
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Common guys, be realistic, in a tournament of this quality, I don't think there would be any major upset from the minnows against the bigger boys.
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In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage.
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Rifat
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Posted: 15 February 2007 at 9:22am |
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If England can win three games in a row versus Australia then Bangladesh surely has the ability to knock out India (or even Sri Lanka)
Cricket can be very unpredictable, Don't write off Bangladesh yet  |
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Mojo
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Posted: 15 February 2007 at 9:30am |
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I agree, Rifat. Don't forget that Bangladesh beat Australia not so long ago. They'll beat Bermuda easily, and all they'll need is a good game against India, and they can make the Super 8. I don't think it's impossible at all. It's a small chance, but it's still a chance.
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Sledger
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Posted: 15 February 2007 at 9:46am |
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They're not expected to qualify , so they can give it everything
in the games against the big two. On the other hand both India and SL
are expected to progress - they'll be some nervousness in their respective camps if Bangladesh start well in the games.
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Mental disintegration works for me !!
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joelza1990
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Posted: 16 February 2007 at 4:49am |
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If Kenya is capable of what they did in 2003 who knows what could happen for the Bangas.
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 16 February 2007 at 5:40am |
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Banagalis are a much more better than they wr ver before. Specially in one daers th are all capable of pulling out a victory against one of the two teams!! moshraf and Sharyar Nafees are two players to watch for the future.
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daisy77
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Posted: 16 February 2007 at 6:56pm |
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yeah the bangalis are a good , upcoming team. It think they should be able to beat Bermuda. In fact I don't even know that much about Bermuda so I am guessing that they really can't be that great.
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Superbokkie
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Posted: 20 February 2007 at 2:53pm |
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India should win this pool but I actually think it could be a close contest. I am picking India for the semi-finals because their Australian coach has finally got them on track. Sri Lanka are a little bit inconsistent but have all the talent to go far. Both teams should be contenders for the semis and maybe even the final. But I don't think the winner is coming from this pool.
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JH Kallis is the only player in history to have 8000 runs, 200 wickets and 100 catches in BOTH forms of the game. Only Sobers (tests) and Jayasuriya (one dayers) have achieved half that feat.
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daisy77
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Posted: 20 February 2007 at 6:54pm |
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Don't be too sure about that....who knows maybe India or SL could win the world cup!! I don't think the Aussies will be so intimidating after losing 3 matches against NZ so most teams will think that it is possible for them to win which makes the competiton so much more open!
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 21 February 2007 at 6:50am |
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Indian batting line up cannot win them matches all the time. they cannot just go on scoring 330 plus runs every match. anything less than 300-310 and thier bowlers are going to let them down!! BIG TIME!!
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daisy77
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Posted: 23 February 2007 at 7:10pm |
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Yeah you are right about batsmen can't be the only one doing the job for a team....they need the support from their bowlers as well. That's something that should stand for all teams...not only India. I guess that's why the call it a "team" because it's supposed to be a team effort and not just bowlers or just batsmen.
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 26 February 2007 at 11:20am |
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but th statement holds true more so for india than for any other team...coz its thier bowling that has led thm down on countless ocasions unlike other major tams....any oth er team with the quality of batting line up that india has, would not have lost this consistently...this is all thanks to thier bowlers mate!!
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wiseguy
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Posted: 26 February 2007 at 11:52am |
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I certainly rate India very high this time around, with sehwag, tendolkar, yuvraj, dravid and ganguly they have one of the most experienced one day batting side, and all players have scored big centuries, so probably they would need only two of the five to fire every match and thats very much doable. Indian bowling is very much suited to west indian pitches, they will have three pacers, in zaheer, munaf, sreesanth/pathan, and two spinners every match harbhajan and kumble, and the support bowling by tendolkar, sehwag, ganguly and yuvraj what else a team wants, I think they have the most balanced squad finaly for the world cup.
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so far so good!
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spin wizard
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Posted: 26 February 2007 at 4:49pm |
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Na Wisey, India's bowling doesn't suit the pitches back here. The spinners do but no the pacers. They are so erratic that they will get smacked a lot! Not much movement down here either so I can see Sreesanth, Pathan etc going for a lot after the new ball has gone!
The batting looks alright but I think the bowlers will fail them!
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daisy77
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Posted: 26 February 2007 at 8:02pm |
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It won't be very nice for Sreesanth to get too much licks from the oppostion batsmen....the way he looks when he is bowling, it doesn't seem like if he would be able to handle that! He is such a nervy player that's always talking to himself... |
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wiseguy
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Posted: 27 February 2007 at 4:03am |
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Sorry mates, again I would disagree, they will fail is more a hope than a fact. Zaheer khan is in the form of his life, indian pitches hardly favour pace, and he got lat of wickets against lankans a great batting side, sreesanth talks to himself just to keep focussed , and usually its done when he is bowling in a rythem. Munaf patel has been really accurate for last few matches, such has been the impact that no one felt the absence of irfan pothan who I believe is due for something now.
If the pacers dont suit, they can always get 40-50 overs out of the spinners & support bowlers, 10 each by kumble and harbhajan, and 20-30 in between tendolkar, ganguly, sehwag and yuvraj. They have phenomenal support bowling which will matter a lot in windies. See India going in with five specialist bowlers will have 5 plus 4 very decent one day bowlers all having more atleast 50 odi wickets , with probably ganguly and tendolkar around hundred. I think they have 4 support bowlers very very suited to the wickets. Edited by wiseguy - 27 February 2007 at 4:05am |
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so far so good!
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NZ_Fast
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Posted: 27 February 2007 at 5:50am |
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I really rate the indian team, for me they are a 'darkhorse' to win the WC....very much like Italy and the football WC. Good bowlers, Good batsmen, it just needs to come together a bit more.
To me the Sri Lanka are just lacking, if Jayasuria and Tharanga both leave without scoring many then its all on Jayawardene and Sangakarra, because after them theres very little. Malinga on his day can rip out 3 quick wickets and put all the pressure back on the opposition, when its not his day, he'll go for 50+ runs and take 1 wicket. Murali and Vaa's are always a threat, but 2 bowlers doesnt make an attack. |
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 27 February 2007 at 6:35am |
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No wise guy, Zaheer might well be in the form of his life. But forget that in West Indies…it has not been far back where Indians lost miserably to West Indies in |
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 27 February 2007 at 6:45am |
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India will NOT play 2 spinners together in ANY match!!!!!!!
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wiseguy
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Posted: 27 February 2007 at 7:06am |
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yes initially they will go on with 4 bowlers and 6 batsmen, but probably they will realise that the combination will be 2 spinners and two fast bowlers. If they want to be really aggressive they will have to go in with 5 regular bowlers, probably two spinners and three pacers! |
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so far so good!
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spin wizard
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Posted: 27 February 2007 at 8:31pm |
Disagree all you want but I think it's quite clear the reason why India doesn't perform in the Caribbean!
Patel bowled with a good line last time round in the Wi and still got smashed and Sreesanth was very poor! SA and the WI is 2 different places!
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daisy77
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Posted: 28 February 2007 at 12:37am |
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Yeah I guess those Indian bowlers really don't like these pitches here in the West Indies and quite rightly so. I think the bowler that may do the trick for India is Kumble. Even though he is a spinner and he is bowling on West Indian pitches, he has so much variety and can do so much more than the average spinner so he should play a huge role in that Indian team. |
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wiseguy
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Posted: 28 February 2007 at 4:05am |
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Well you are right as indian pacers were really poor in their last outing in west indies, and that was almost a first tour for most of them. Well i follow what happened afterwards, they went back to india, played on pitches similar to the ones in west indies, got their act better, and now have a better plan for west indian pitches with recent experience. Dont forget the support bowling which is the best advantage indians have, they can easily replace two bowlers in a match with four good support bowlers!
My money definately on India, reasons, Most experienced ODI batting line, inform bowlers, excellent support bowling. Problems I see fielding , and captaincy which would be testing in close matches. Edited by wiseguy - 28 February 2007 at 4:08am |
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so far so good!
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wiseguy
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Posted: 28 February 2007 at 5:09am |
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Kapil Dev has said that his heart says India will win but his head doesnt, well I have always doubted if he had anything in his head, and this statement is a proof that he doesnt have much in there.
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so far so good!
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Posted: 28 February 2007 at 7:38am |
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Dont forget, most of the pitches are brand new and so may not conform to the typical West Indies type pitch, so anything is possible.
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 28 February 2007 at 9:15am |
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but the soil is west indian only...its the soil that matters!! the pitches will all be like they usually are in caribean!! |
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venjen
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Posted: 28 February 2007 at 11:07am |
Thats clear,
 on Malinga's day Sri Lanka can rip through any side with Vass & Murali around. |
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spin wizard
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Posted: 28 February 2007 at 12:09pm |
Awwwwwwww, the most sensible post I have ever seen from you!! Well done lad!
And Wisey, the WI pitches aren't like those in India! India have too many flat surfaces that suits no one else but the batters unlike the caribbean. If it ain't flat, it's a mine field!!! Edited by spin wizard - 28 February 2007 at 12:10pm |
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Group B (Sri Lanka, India, Bangladesh, Bermuda)