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Topic: Hair SuesPosted: 04 October 2007 at 6:04am |
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Corrupt ? Look it up in the Oxford Dictionary and then
give me an instance of corruption by the man. I find it
mystifying how anyone can side with the ICC after their appalling
behaviour in this matter.
Just a simple question on this whole sordid affair - Two umpires made the decision to change the ball after they deemed it had been tampered with. 6 weeks after the match was forfeited the ICC find Pakistan not guilty of ball tampering and the wheels were set in motion to rid the game of one umpire - why just the one ? |
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Posted: 04 October 2007 at 6:08am |
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Yes, both of them should have been sacked. ICC's fault to this extent.
Corrupt..... Asking for bribe isn't corruption in your dictionary????? Edited by GreenCap - 04 October 2007 at 6:09am |
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143no
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Posted: 04 October 2007 at 6:09am |
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Thats laughable GC, as usual pakistan fans seem to be going with an emotive, biased view, rather than sticking to the facts. Facts are he has done nothing wrong, he is not there to mollicoddle players or protect their oversensative ego's, he is there to uphold the rules as, rules wich pakistan time and time again try and break, this whole issue is a joke.
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GreenCap
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Posted: 04 October 2007 at 6:21am |
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Yes he sticked to the rules by blaming the side with ball-tempering without having any proof. Just ironic. Then he again sticked to the rules by asking ICC to pay him millions so that they can get rid of him. Yes, he's a man of principals and rules.
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143no
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Posted: 04 October 2007 at 6:25am |
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It shows how little you know about it GC, what proof does he need under the laws of cricket to act on ball tampering? He was coerced into writing that letter, trying to help the ICC, he was then sold down the river. |
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Posted: 04 October 2007 at 6:25am |
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He had a conversation with Speed (that means both people were
talking) , and Speed told him that the ICC wanted him out. He
said he'd go for 250,000 pounds - much like anyone seeking compensation
when being asked to leave.
There is nothing corrupt in that - what was sickening was Speed releasing a confidential email to the entire world concerning that meeting. That shows the calibre of the ICC man - I've scraped material off the sole of my shoe with more integrity than that creature. |
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GreenCap
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Posted: 04 October 2007 at 6:30am |
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If the ball is degraded, it's not necessary that someone from fielding side scratched it.
If 26 cameras can't detect a ball tampering from a player, how could an umpire put such an infliction on an International side based on the assumptions only?????
I won't be putting any stuff on this thread anymore. This discussion will go on forever. Edited by GreenCap - 04 October 2007 at 6:32am |
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143no
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Posted: 04 October 2007 at 6:42am |
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Yes bit hard to argue the indefencable isn't it. He dosen't need any proof, it comes down to his opinion, like most things with an umpire, a cricketers job is to live by those decisions, not act like spoilt brats, hiding behind make believe gods dosen't make you rightious either.
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Posted: 04 October 2007 at 6:47am |
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That's why he's trying to do it again and again, and in the process, ends up with more and more rubbish.
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Posted: 04 October 2007 at 6:52am |
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If he wins , he'll be vindicated , simple as that.
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Posted: 04 October 2007 at 9:03am |
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GreenCap, making reference to him having "asked for a bribe" just shows that you really don't have the first clue about anything to do with this whole episode
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Posted: 04 October 2007 at 2:37pm |
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Let's see. I am smelling some foul matter surfacing during the course!
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Posted: 04 October 2007 at 6:55pm |
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Looks like Doctrove's appearance as a witness has been nobbled by the ICC
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Posted: 05 October 2007 at 5:46am |
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Hair needs to prove a difficult point. He has to show that ICC discrimiinates racially. So he has to prove that all fair skinned umpires were treated differently. Tough task I think! But he may salvage his pride on unfair dismissal (I am not sure wheter he is expelled from the elite panel or whether he is only getting 1st class matches to be officiated)
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Posted: 05 October 2007 at 6:11am |
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The explanation of why he failed to board a plane to London just stinks. "It's too complicated to divulge" Absolute tripe!! If Hair thought he'd been sold down the river before , this will more than strengthen that belief. Simply put , the ICC are not just a bloated and failing body , but a corrupt one too. |
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Posted: 05 October 2007 at 9:16am |
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quite clearly nothing is beneath that particular organisation
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Posted: 05 October 2007 at 9:37am |
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My gut feeling is that Hair's going to get nothing out of this
affair - the slippery sods seem one step ahead all the time.
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Posted: 05 October 2007 at 10:13am |
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And worse still we'll end up with the usual blinkered few who say much yet understand little blabbering on about how justice was served!
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Posted: 05 October 2007 at 10:32am |
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Yep , but we can do something about that mate !
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Posted: 05 October 2007 at 10:32am |
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Now he (Hair) claims that Rudi Koertzen has called Pakistanis as cheats. This is turning ugly. Better to get rid of this contreversial charachter once and for all even if it costs ICC dearly.
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Posted: 05 October 2007 at 10:36am |
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Are you saying rudi never said it?
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Posted: 05 October 2007 at 10:37am |
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If Koetzen didn't say what Hair said he said , then why is Koertzen so quiet ?
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Posted: 06 October 2007 at 3:27pm |
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Posted: 07 October 2007 at 8:16pm |
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I read a couple of excellent articles today on this trial, after Hair's crew had a far better day on Friday.
Michael Atherton summed up a lot of our feelings;
Malcolm Speed alone came out of it a little better on the basis that his recommendations as to how best deal with Hair (keep him on the panel but don't give him much to do) had been ignored by these three. And how about this for another revelation in The Times;
Atherton's view - probably accurate - is that Hair has perhaps erred in pursuing his claim on racial grounds instead of constructive dismissal. |
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Posted: 08 October 2007 at 5:40am |
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Talk about not upsetting the applecart Clobs - any suspicious
actions by Pakistanis must be covered up in any way possible !
Tis a pity that there's no appeals court for Pollock to turn to , it
would've been interesting.
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Posted: 08 October 2007 at 6:44am |
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I think it will be much better for Hair to hire someone from this forum as his lawyer to get a favorable decision rather than making silly actions again and again
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Posted: 08 October 2007 at 8:38am |
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if you understood anything about the legal system you might realise that lawyers don't make the decisions in court
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Posted: 08 October 2007 at 8:55am |
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Well.....Bondy can have a say at it.
A person with great potential and no presentation skills usually suffers to get to the highest levels.
A strong lawyer can convince the judge to make a favorable decision, and there are too many strong lawyers here Edited by GreenCap - 08 October 2007 at 8:58am |
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Posted: 08 October 2007 at 9:21am |
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Can anyone provide a link to a site(news article) where decent information is given about this topic.
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Posted: 08 October 2007 at 9:40am |
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Clobber has done that - go to the Telegraph and read Atherton's article.
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