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    Posted: 10 May 2006 at 6:34pm
being able to bowl at 80mph is quick however your never going to take wickets unless u can move the ball around off the seam or get a bit of swing
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Post Options Post Options   Quote ANIL KUMBLE Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 May 2006 at 11:54am
How do you know how fast you can bowl,you dont have a speed gun,your saying 80mp/h thats what you think but it could be 60mp/h
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Becuase coaches tell you an estimate and they've experienced speed guns etc so they have a rough idea on your speed.
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well AK, I am quick, thats that. I have a quick arm action that helps but I spin so that doesn't matter me. I stopped pacing 2 years ago but I wasn't quick back then and I use to land badly on my knee, thats why I quited it but now and then I bowl couple balls and I bowl them quick a s I said 80 mph, thats from the hand at not after pitching. and by the way 80 mph isn't quick

I can average as well. By the way ak, how did you measure your speed, was it out of the hands are at the batsman point are after pitching.

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you are back to pace then? that would be the right decision because if you are bowling 80mph you might as well concentrate on that and not anything else. except batting

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Post Options Post Options   Quote ANIL KUMBLE Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 May 2006 at 10:09am
Im a slow pace bowler I reckon,thats why I stick with spin
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80mph is rapid for a 16 yr old, it's rapid even for adult minor counties!

Think of it this way - An international fast bowler will generally bowl between 85 and 90 mph, with a few exceptions.

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well chaminda vaas is bowling at around 80mph at this present moment, so spin wizard should be great international seamer when he grows up.
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spin wizard do you play for your countries u19 team? with 80mph you should be there quite easy. Any tips on how to get quicker? by the way i alreeady do weights and use a punchbag so am pretty strong.
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run in to the crease faster or get really relay pumped up think images of Steps coming back and Emmerdale that should get you angry enough or there is always self hypnotism
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nope, its ok, emmerdake and steps have done it
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Post Options Post Options   Quote spin wizard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 May 2006 at 6:26pm

well freddieflintoff I am training for national u-19 at the moment but the only reason I was picked is because I do leg spin and right now, I am the best spinner the side has and I won't go back to pace to throw away my place because there are very good pacers there, 2 left armers and a very quick tall right armer. I figure he can make 90mph cause he is very quick on the slowest surface.

Anyway, to get quicker, try using a smooth run up like lee and bring over your arm quick (this is why I do 80mph) and release quick because the speed of a ball is measured at release.

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90 mph, no way, not at u19, he'd be on the verge of the national team, or possibly in it, i think you could make it international at pace spin wizard, i never knew you bowled 80mph, thats the same speed as sri lankas fastest bowler.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Leezy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2006 at 8:58pm

No offence mate, but we are privelaged enough to have some of the U19 internationals play for our first team at the moment (Andrew Miller, Stephen Mullaney, Karl Brown and Nick Woods)

Mill and mull both bowl for them, and they only bowl about 70 (They are Fast-Medium Bowlers)  and they inform me that the fastest man in the squad they have seen on the speed gun only bowls about 80mph.

Woodsy is a fantastic leggy, who turns it square and also bowls regularly.  So I think we would all appreciate it if you kept your blatent lies to yourself.

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Originally posted by spin wizard

well freddieflintoff I am training for national u-19 at the moment but the only reason I was picked is because I do leg spin and right now, I am the best spinner the side has and I won't go back to pace to throw away my place because there are very good pacers there, 2 left armers and a very quick tall right armer. I figure he can make 90mph cause he is very quick on the slowest surface.

Anyway, to get quicker, try using a smooth run up like lee and bring over your arm quick (this is why I do 80mph) and release quick because the speed of a ball is measured at release.



I found that very funny indeed!
You obviously don't know how to tell the speeds.
90 mph at under 19 level is hilarious.
In the U 19 world cup there was nobody in 90, the highest was about 85mph and you're telling me this guy can bowl express.

You probably bowl at about 50mph if your views on speed are this distorted.
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Think you're right on the money there flav. dunno who this guy thinks he is!
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whatever you all say, think about it, correy collymore bearly runs up and don't go over quick and bowl at 80 mph. This guy run up is long and has a quick arm action and is tall. He has no control what soever thats why he isn't in national. On short boundary, slips does be back nearly to the boundary for him. Maybe I exaggerated a bit too much but maybe he could make 88 the most.

Remeber Jerome Taylor use to bowl at 93 mph when he was 19 years.

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thats still bloody fast
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when people say what speed they bowl you normally have to take away 10 Mph because everyone over rates themselves as a fast bowler
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i am 14 and just touchin on 60 i think, freddieflintoff as in the person chatting on here, is ur first name ashley??
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Hugo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 May 2006 at 10:22pm
the trouble is there is no way of really guessing your bowling speed. so all the people claiming they can bowl over 80Mph if you dont have speed gun evidence then i, and alot of other peopole on this forum, are not going to take you seriously
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Originally posted by quicky

i am 14 and just touchin on 60 i think, freddieflintoff as in the person chatting on here, is ur first name ashley??

no mate, most of the people i know range from 50-60mph, my first name is steven

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Post Options Post Options   Quote dips_december Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 May 2006 at 6:40am
i am 14 and can bowl at around 65mph thats what my coach said ,but now i am a spinner
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thats a bad choice
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Well, with the help of a video camera and stopwatch I calculated a speed of 67mph (via a time-distance equation) for myself. I'm a bit faster than some of the others on the team, but a bit slower than the top two bowlers, one of whom is seriously quick for our level. I'd rate myself about joint 3rd fastest on the team. My spin bowling is terrible, not because I can't get the ball to turn (I can bowl a bit of leg or offspin), but because I can't get it to land where I want it to. I'll stick to being a medium pacer, thanks.
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you should head over to the spin section for tips
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in international cricket is the ball measured from the hand? cos this would make them seriously rapid as the pitches that the pros play on are like concrete.

 

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Originally posted by murali22

in international cricket is the ball measured from the hand?

Dead right mate. It is measured from the hands. Thats why I always try to tell persons to bring over quick and release quick to gain pace.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote ANIL KUMBLE Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 May 2006 at 8:00am

Wow Jerome Taylor touched 93 mp/h at just 19,he must of been the quickest 19 year old of all time how fast does he bowl now 85-95 mp/h im guessing maybe.

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no offence AK but how is that ever going to help us with fast bowling
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