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Topic: How good is Anil kumblePosted: 01 January 2007 at 8:42pm |
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I have always been intrigued whenever people mention the best player or bowlers Kumble is rarely mentioned. Even though has 540 test wickets and the leading Indian bowler by a distance, he even fails to get a mention when indian spinners are mentioned, you always here the names of bishen bedi and chandershaker ahead of kumble. He is never talked about that often, even myself i would never have him in my best x1, even for asia let alone a wordl x1. What do you think it is that makes people not give him credit for his great achievements? He has even gotten a 10 wkt hall in one innings against pak. Personally I do not really choose him in any of my best x1's is due to the lack of spin he gets on the ball and the fact that he is not as threatning away from india as he is at home. What do you guys think? Here is his record to date:
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I think probably because heis not a great spinner of the ball. His excellent variations are too subtle compared to Warne and Murali and so people don't notice him as much.
It is quite amazing though, when you look at his stats and are reminded that he's got 550 wickets.
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Thats exactly my point, everyone seems to be talking about warney, saqlain and murali but none of us mention him, even indian fans, maybe its because he does not spin the ball, but he does have some good variations, like his deadly googly.
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Kumble is a great bowler as far as I'm concerned! I think he never gets mention because as we all know, Warne is better than him so Warne gets all the talks when it comes to leg spin. I think as well, it's because he doesn't spin the ball much either. He is a fighter and can win matches like Warne. Kumble is one of the most accurate bowler ever!
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He is the only spinner ive seen trouble inzy on so many occasions. Though your right Warne is the better bowler all round so he gets more of a men tion.
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Kumble is an unbelievably great bowler. Spin wiazard has summed up my
thoughts up well, the only reason he is not remembered is that Warne
and Murali are better. To say Bedi and Chandra are better than him is
nonsense and he would be in anyones Asia XI. The great thing about
Kumble is that he is dangerous on any pitch and is probably one of the
great bowlers of flat wickets. Plus he has a fantastic record against
the creme de la creme, Australia. If you asked an international
cricketer why he is such a good bowler they wouldnt be able to answer.
I think of him as the Glen McGrath of spinners, doesnt do anything
special with the ball yet is always dangerous and takes plenty of
wickets just for bowling attacking lines. One of the greats and an
inspiration to any young spin bowlers that line and length can take you
600 test wickets.
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70 DS i never said he is below bedi and chandrshaker, i said in polls the two always come ahead of him, in india. He fails to get into peoples asia x1 because if your to choose one spinner from asia, then it would have to be murali. But i think Kumble has been agreat servant for india and is somewhat under rated by mots people around the world. That was my point in making this thread to see what other think.
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You have misunderstood me, I wasnt saying you thought that, I was just mentioning your example and what I thought about ti.
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oh ok fair enough.
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To me Kumble is excellent. Deadly accurate spinner. He gets 9 out of 10 balls on target. Very hard to get 4 runs per over out of Kumble. His Variation is great. To me his flipper is one of the most dangerous delivery. Great bowler when india is in trouble. He is the only Indian bowler I can watch bowl all day. |
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Inzamam you are a genius thank you for making this thread. I don't think people around the world have noticed and recognised Kumbles efforts and achievments he's always being over shaddowed by the other great spin bowlers Murali & Warney.
In my opinion Kumble is underrated hes workrate is amazing one of the great bowles of all time I wouldn't say spinner cause he isin't a big turner but he is still classified as a leg spinner.
I hope he can take 600 test wickets before the end of his career cause he is 36 now and his body is taking a toll on him.
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kumble is a great bowler, but not one of the worlds best. It also annoys me why his googly turns more than his leggie
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BackFoot master rightly pointed out the reason why he's so successfull. He is extremely accurate and it's really hard to hit him for boundaries. He is much more quicker than Warnie and other leggies, and mostely does not give much flight to the ball, so despite being unable to spin the ball much he's is a wicket taker and match winner bowler for India. And yes his googly is amazing, isn't it? The other bowler who's got a very lethal googly is Danish Kaneria, but he's not that accurate and spot on as Kumble. But the bottom line is that Kumle is a great bowler and I cannot forget his 10 wickets hall against despite the fact that some of the LBWs decisions were substandard. But I tell you guys honestly, i watched him bowling in that match and he was in his best ever form.
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didn't england once go with the mindframe to play him as a medium pacer?
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Anil Kumble is one of India's best ever spin bowlers. Remember he is only one of two bowlers in the history of test cricket to take 10 wickets in an innings. He has also taken over 500 wickets which in my view is an excellent achievement. He always bowls accurately and while he does not spin the ball that much, his variations in speed and length make up for that.
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Why would it annoy you that his googly turns more than his leggie, thats just ridiculous
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I would say that there are a lot of threads on Warne and so he is forgotten and I'd have to agree that no one thnks how good he really is. I confess that I underate him too but just before a match starts, I always tell my mom that Kumble will be the best bowler today and he proves me right in every single game. May not take wickets but puts a lot of pressure on every batsman. The only bowler I'd watch all day long as someone said. Infact the only bowler in the world I'd watch all day. I get bored of mCgrath sometimes and I find it annoying to watch Warne bowl. I know it sounds as ridiculous as what youngmurli said but I just don't him entertaining. The only other bowler who I think is as good as Kumble to watch is Murlitaran. My opinion. Anway, I'll kepp this thread in mind and will never underate him again. I mean eh has got 500+ wickets, right?
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exactly im sick of people under-rating kumble just because he doesnt follow the regular methods of flight and sharp spin that all the other leg-spinning greats use.
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He is immense, under rated and a fantastic leg spinner.
Anyone who says he isn't a spinner should be now shot.
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Possibly one of the best. Murali has chucking contrversies with him, and Warne is a proven drug cheat. And Kumble apperas very clean!!
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Kumble is a workman, doesnt show off often , and infact he has given more to indian cricket then any of his fellow bowlers. I always mantained that he is their best one day bowler, and if india wins the world cup you will see a lot of kumble in it.
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If you are in doubt, think about it - then bat. If you have very big doubts, consult a colleague - then bat. |
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When you win the toss - bat.
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Perfect sense, dear. He cheated by using drugs. Drug cheat?
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Not so, and demonstrates an inability to understand or articulate drug use in sport. Even the most moronic cricket watcher would know that a diuretic has no performance-enhancing effect, was not used to mask steroid use and medical opinion stated that
steroids would not have enhanced Warne's recovery from a shoulder
injury he had suffered several weeks earlier, or assisted his game in
any way. So the use of the word 'cheat' is entirely inappropriate.
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When you win the toss - bat.
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Posted: 23 January 2007 at 7:57pm |
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Right, if they had no effect, why was he banned for a year? If something has no effect on your performance it's just like not taking it.
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Posted: 23 January 2007 at 8:16pm |
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I agree completely, he deserved the ban like Asif and Shoaib but the ACB isn't corrupt
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