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    Posted: 22 March 2007 at 1:23pm
bowl your stock ball 90% of the time, you only need to bowl a variation once every 2 overs at most
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I think if you do what most people are saying here, you're bound to stuff up. There's no point in bowling different balls unless you're going to bowl a bouncer or a yorker, if you keep bowling in the off stump channel on a good length, and then let seam movement and uneven bounce do the trick, batsman will undoubtedly have enough problems to contend with.
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I just keep mixing it up, a few back a length balls, a few slightly fuller length balls, the odd bouncer, a slower ball, leg or off cutter, inswing or outswinger.
Then i just pray the fielders hold onto the catches. Batsmen in our grade have very very sound techniques so its very difficult to bowl anyone, and even more difficult to get an LBW out of the umpire.
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im a left hander and all i do is go for off stump everyball i sometimes bowl slower and yorkers i usually get about 2 wickets a game i am a fast bowler but i am more of a batsman so i dont mind about getting wickets
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I personally doubt very much that AK can bowl the flipper. I'm not saying he's a liar but I think he is thinking of a slider.
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As a spinner i just try and hit the same spot 6 balls in a row, varying the flight and spin on each ball hoping for the batsman to make a mistake.
 
More often then not, if i keep the line tight, the batsman struggle to score runs and do something stupid.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Pietersen Fan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 March 2007 at 11:03pm
its just the fact that hey have a set pattern in thier mind, its not good because you cant react to the way the batsmens playing you etc.
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Bowling at the stumps and waiting for a mistake is always a good way although personally I try to bowl it across them and moving away to go for the nick.
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well i am a fast bowler and i really open the bowling and im a strike bowler for a reason. so what i do is first ball i ball middle and offstump full delivery, 2nd ball- short pitch delivery to get the batsmen expecting another the next delivery, 3rd ball i ball abit wide of off-stump,4th delivery always good i ball a good full delivery in-swinging into right hand or if left hand-batsmen i go around the wicket and attemp a off-stump yorker works alot if not , 5th ball i give another short pitch delivery give the batsmen some! confuse him abit more with my last ball which is my brilliant slow ball usually batsmen dont no how to play it so they get out LBW or bowled off stump and i gt a caught and bowled work alot, you need to show a variety in your bowling.
 
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I always bowl Flipper's every 6th ball,8 out of 10 times it works and gets me a wicket
 
not saying i dont believe you dont get the wickets, but ull never make a good bowler if you bowl to a pattern
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Originally posted by JANNI

well i am a fast bowler and i really open the bowling and im a strike bowler for a reason. so what i do is first ball i ball middle and offstump full delivery, 2nd ball- short pitch delivery to get the batsmen expecting another the next delivery, 3rd ball i ball abit wide of off-stump,4th delivery always good i ball a good full delivery in-swinging into right hand or if left hand-batsmen i go around the wicket and attemp a off-stump yorker works alot if not , 5th ball i give another short pitch delivery give the batsmen some! confuse him abit more with my last ball which is my brilliant slow ball usually batsmen dont no how to play it so they get out LBW or bowled off stump and i gt a caught and bowled work alot, you need to show a variety in your bowling.
 
what  you fink of that.
well i ahve been training with wasim and waqar and ima good friend of mohammed asif so i get tips and coachign when everi go back home to pakistan or when ever they come over to east london. Big%20smileLOLBig%20smile


Keep it simple, mate. Off Stump Line on a good length will create problems for most batsman.
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well i am a fast bowler and i really open the bowling and im a strike bowler for a reason. so what i do is first ball i ball middle and offstump full delivery, 2nd ball- short pitch delivery to get the batsmen expecting another the next delivery, 3rd ball i ball abit wide of off-stump,4th delivery always good i ball a good full delivery in-swinging into right hand or if left hand-batsmen i go around the wicket and attemp a off-stump yorker works alot if not , 5th ball i give another short pitch delivery give the batsmen some! confuse him abit more with my last ball which is my brilliant slow ball usually batsmen dont no how to play it so they get out LBW or bowled off stump and i gt a caught and bowled work alot, you need to show a variety in your bowling.
 
what  you fink of that.
well i ahve been training with wasim and waqar and ima good friend of mohammed asif so i get tips and coachign when everi go back home to pakistan or when ever they come over to east london. Big%20smileLOLBig%20smile


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Try bowling slightly wider of the crease aswell for variation. A different angle can completely cut him up
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You can't get wickets against the top batsman just by spinning the ball in differant directions. Think of the batsman's point of view, they aren't blind, they can see where the ball is going, so do something differant. Change lengths, change field, bowl slower, change bowling apporoach or bowl from a differant angle.
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i find a slower ball gets alot of people out caught as the go for it and tend not to middle it
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When bowling to left handers (when i bowl off spin) I bowl a few just putside off stump spinning away from the batsmen, then after about 4 balls I will bowl a faster arm ball t his legs... 9 times out of 10 I bowl the batsmen around his legs, I always have a little giggle abt it too.
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Well I don't bowl very often (being more of a batsman). But I just aim outside off stump, and every once in a while I bowl a yorker on the stumps, sometimes it even gets them out. I also occaisonaly bowl legspin, but my only variation is a straight ball (like Kumble).
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I bowl off break just outside offstump and then bowl the arm ball on the same line on the fifth or sixth ball. Sometimes gets a wicket. Also Have a man square boundery on the Leg side and temp them to sweep. Then bowl toppy top edge or glove. Also variating pace sometimes works as well. I usually bowl one end while the pace guys rotate at the other end. The pace guys get most of the wickets but I slow the run rate. And frustrate them. Its a team plan
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i try to bowl wicket to wicket, with slight movement(away mostly with the other 1 every now and then) the slower ball is also usefull.

but i like to study the batsman, you can pick up his/her tells(poker term) from how he/she stands, grips the bat, general batting make up. after you know these things you can decide to bowl at their strengths or at their weakness' then set a field to where you will be bowling, a well delivered slower ball no good with out a well thought out field. a regular change in the field(even if it is slight) can create the vital uncertainty in the batsman.

for example after no more than 2 balls at me any bowler or captin worth his weight should have done away with his extra cover and placed him in a second gully.  due to me playing with half the bat when the ball is outside off stump.

 

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Changing the field, bowling partner and approach are big weapons.

 

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my secret? something different every ball I have 5 different slower bowls which help and my action gets natural and quite big inswing. I put in a yorker or bouncer every over usually after a subtle slower ball and mix up my inswingers with a scrambled seam delivery so no movement. Oh and a little gift to make sure the batsmen stays interested one every two overs will do
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I just hit the mark with my leg breaks, and if i get a long spell of bowling to the same batsmen, then ni can use a variation to fox him with him being used to it.

I dont thing having a set plan like a flipper every so many balls is a good idea. I actually thing it is a very bad idea sas you will get sussed very quickly.
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I normally bowl the first over without experimenting ,being a chinamen bowler i bowl an outside the off stump or a off stump line usually and once in a while slip in the googly or the flipper ,still learning the googly though .I am not an expert in bowling it

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 lefties rule

When bowling spin, i prefer to bowl an over or 2 of stock deliveries, and then on maybe the last ball of the 2nd over, or 1st bowl of the next over, through in a quicker ball, which i will either pitch on a good length and hopefully extract a little bit of turn, or try and york the batsmen. Works a treat  and creates uncertainty in the batsmans mind.

When bowling medium/fast though i like to throw in an off cutter which is generally a bit slower than my stock ball, it doesn't always work, but on the odd occassion it does.

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What I like to do is start off bowling my natural line and shape which is swinging in to the right handed batsmen then just when they think they have the hang of it I will change line and bowl one that moves away off the pitch, and that creates uncertainty for the batsman from there on in



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3 away swingers followed by a quicker inswinger.Works most times.Element of surprise.
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You need to be accurate when swinging the ball clobber to get wickets.
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Can you swing the ball Clobber?


Read his post again and you'll see.
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Originally posted by Clobber

What I like to do is start off bowling my natural line and shape which is swinging in to the right handed batsmen then just when they think they have the hang of it I will change line and bowl one that moves away off the pitch, and that creates uncertainty for the batsman from there on in



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