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    Posted: 19 May 2006 at 10:13am
I opened this thread to know other people's experience on getting wickets. You can tell us the most effective way to get wickets by bowling different line and lenghts.

My experience is to ball at different line and lenghts every ball and not ball at the same place, the batsmam is then uncertain and there is a chance to grab a wicket.



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I always bowl Flipper's every 6th ball,8 out of 10 times it works and gets me a wicket
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When did you learn to ball the flipper AK?
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At age? about 11 or 12

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I bowl on Off Stump or just outside the line of Off Stump at a fixed speed, then last ball, I put in a fast yorker to destroy the base of their stumps. This usually works because the batsman gets used to the pace of the first five deliveries and might not be expecting a yorker at a faster speed.

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At every 12th ball or 13th ball, I always bowl a split finger yorker, or a slower ball that comes out the back of the hand. It always works, thats how I get wickets.

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I sometimes like to ball wide so that the batsman pokes his bat out to cut and sometimes edges it. It is a new tactic I have found out recently, I saw many batsman in the international arena getting out caught behind for trying to hit a bowl wide off the stumps. 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote RightHandBat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 May 2006 at 10:57am
Sometimes rolling the ball off your index finger works as a slower ball. I've also gotten many wickets with it. 
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Is there are a big difference in speed of your slower ball RightHandBat?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote RightHandBat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 May 2006 at 11:11am
Not really. I have four different slower deliveries.
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The batsman then must have a hard time facing you 
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Originally posted by Rifat

The batsman then must have a hard time facing you 


I don't know. I'm a part time bowler. I'm just a batsman who opens the bowling sometimes.
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What I like to do is start off bowling my natural line and shape which is swinging in to the right handed batsmen then just when they think they have the hang of it I will change line and bowl one that moves away off the pitch, and that creates uncertainty for the batsman from there on in
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Originally posted by Clobber

What I like to do is start off bowling my natural line and shape which is swinging in to the right handed batsmen then just when they think they have the hang of it I will change line and bowl one that moves away off the pitch, and that creates uncertainty for the batsman from there on in



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Can you swing the ball Clobber?


Read his post again and you'll see.
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You need to be accurate when swinging the ball clobber to get wickets.
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3 away swingers followed by a quicker inswinger.Works most times.Element of surprise.
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Originally posted by RightHandBat

Originally posted by Clobber

What I like to do is start off bowling my natural line and shape which is swinging in to the right handed batsmen then just when they think they have the hang of it I will change line and bowl one that moves away off the pitch, and that creates uncertainty for the batsman from there on in



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 lefties rule

When bowling spin, i prefer to bowl an over or 2 of stock deliveries, and then on maybe the last ball of the 2nd over, or 1st bowl of the next over, through in a quicker ball, which i will either pitch on a good length and hopefully extract a little bit of turn, or try and york the batsmen. Works a treat  and creates uncertainty in the batsmans mind.

When bowling medium/fast though i like to throw in an off cutter which is generally a bit slower than my stock ball, it doesn't always work, but on the odd occassion it does.

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I normally bowl the first over without experimenting ,being a chinamen bowler i bowl an outside the off stump or a off stump line usually and once in a while slip in the googly or the flipper ,still learning the googly though .I am not an expert in bowling it

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I just hit the mark with my leg breaks, and if i get a long spell of bowling to the same batsmen, then ni can use a variation to fox him with him being used to it.

I dont thing having a set plan like a flipper every so many balls is a good idea. I actually thing it is a very bad idea sas you will get sussed very quickly.
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my secret? something different every ball I have 5 different slower bowls which help and my action gets natural and quite big inswing. I put in a yorker or bouncer every over usually after a subtle slower ball and mix up my inswingers with a scrambled seam delivery so no movement. Oh and a little gift to make sure the batsmen stays interested one every two overs will do
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Changing the field, bowling partner and approach are big weapons.

 

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i try to bowl wicket to wicket, with slight movement(away mostly with the other 1 every now and then) the slower ball is also usefull.

but i like to study the batsman, you can pick up his/her tells(poker term) from how he/she stands, grips the bat, general batting make up. after you know these things you can decide to bowl at their strengths or at their weakness' then set a field to where you will be bowling, a well delivered slower ball no good with out a well thought out field. a regular change in the field(even if it is slight) can create the vital uncertainty in the batsman.

for example after no more than 2 balls at me any bowler or captin worth his weight should have done away with his extra cover and placed him in a second gully.  due to me playing with half the bat when the ball is outside off stump.

 

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I bowl off break just outside offstump and then bowl the arm ball on the same line on the fifth or sixth ball. Sometimes gets a wicket. Also Have a man square boundery on the Leg side and temp them to sweep. Then bowl toppy top edge or glove. Also variating pace sometimes works as well. I usually bowl one end while the pace guys rotate at the other end. The pace guys get most of the wickets but I slow the run rate. And frustrate them. Its a team plan
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Well I don't bowl very often (being more of a batsman). But I just aim outside off stump, and every once in a while I bowl a yorker on the stumps, sometimes it even gets them out. I also occaisonaly bowl legspin, but my only variation is a straight ball (like Kumble).
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When bowling to left handers (when i bowl off spin) I bowl a few just putside off stump spinning away from the batsmen, then after about 4 balls I will bowl a faster arm ball t his legs... 9 times out of 10 I bowl the batsmen around his legs, I always have a little giggle abt it too.
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i find a slower ball gets alot of people out caught as the go for it and tend not to middle it
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Post Options Post Options   Quote cricket_mstr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 June 2006 at 12:51pm
You can't get wickets against the top batsman just by spinning the ball in differant directions. Think of the batsman's point of view, they aren't blind, they can see where the ball is going, so do something differant. Change lengths, change field, bowl slower, change bowling apporoach or bowl from a differant angle.
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