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    Posted: 07 January 2011 at 5:17pm
Originally posted by MalhotraRaj84

I don't think there is going to be any upsets in Group B, while in Group A -Aus,NZ and SL will easily make it to next round.My prediction skills say that Pakistan might not make it to second round one more time.

But if there are no upsets then any of the following 8 have chances in following order (Format is such that anyone who wins 3 matches that count on a trot wins the cup)
- ENG
- India
- SL
- Aus
- SAF
- WI
- Pak
- NZ
 
Though NZ I have placed at 8th, they are kind of a Dark Horse for me this time.
 
 
you are riding your luck Raj, i do not have an iota of doubt that your predictions are going to go horribly wrong... and it is just a matter of time.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote abubakar52 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 January 2011 at 5:24pm
Raj, why do all of your predictions always have Pakistan either dead last in your list or close to the bottom. Although, You are entitled to your opinion. I just think its a bit strange.

Anyways, yes I would say do not expect any serious upsets, the minnows have not done much to change their sides, nor had decent one day cricket exposure, but you never know with one day cricket you cant count out any side.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote MalhotraRaj84 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 January 2011 at 8:18pm
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Originally posted by MalhotraRaj84

I don't think there is going to be any upsets in Group B, while in Group A -Aus,NZ and SL will easily make it to next round.My prediction skills say that Pakistan might not make it to second round one more time.

But if there are no upsets then any of the following 8 have chances in following order (Format is such that anyone who wins 3 matches that count on a trot wins the cup)
- ENG
- India
- SL
- Aus
- SAF
- WI
- Pak
- NZ
 
Though NZ I have placed at 8th, they are kind of a Dark Horse for me this time.
 
 
you are riding your luck Raj, i do not have an iota of doubt that your predictions are going to go horribly wrong... and it is just a matter of time.
  Man, I just fell of my chair.Ok, here I go ...
1.  I was dead right about my Ashes prediction,
2.  I was dead right about Ind-SA series,
3.  I was dead right about Ind-NZ final outcome (after initial scare),
4.  I was dead right about England winning T20 world cup ,
5.  I was dead right about Aussies slump till the end of Ashes.
 
I really don't like to take dig at other persons predictions when they go wrong.That is too childish and cheap.Predictions mean guess work, it may or may not come true.We just need to enjoy it , and by god's grace whatever I am saying it is happening. I hope whatever I write happens and India wins the world cup 2011.
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Originally posted by abubakar52

Raj, why do all of your predictions always have Pakistan either dead last in your list or close to the bottom. Although, You are entitled to your opinion. I just think its a bit strange.

Anyways, yes I would say do not expect any serious upsets, the minnows have not done much to change their sides, nor had decent one day cricket exposure, but you never know with one day cricket you cant count out any side.
 Are they good enough at the top of the table ? Have they done anything of note on consistent basis ? Can you had to put all your saving and bet on one team , would you put money on them to be in top four ?
 
Well, I have not ruled them out, have I ? Yes out of all the 8 cricket palying nations, the only upset I expect is from Pakistan, because in group A , there are 2 teams (Aus and SL - will easily enter next round), NZ will perform well in WC initial stages, that leaves Pakistan in a dangerous position
1. NZ, Aus and SL for sure will beat Pakistan.
2. If at all Zim or Kenya can pull off an odd upset agaisn't them.
 
In Group B  Ind,Eng,WI and SA  will accumulate enough points(kind of round robin points among one another) and easily sail to next round.
 
If you read my posts, I have mentioned that if there are no upsets then any of the top 8 test playing nations can win the cup.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Clobber Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 January 2011 at 9:30pm
I will say one thing, Raj has a far better record of success with his predictions than most, if not all, others on here
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sam_ahmed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 January 2011 at 4:25am

whoa! I only said you are lucky that some of your predictions came true (you give 10 possiblities about an outcome so something will come true anyways) how is that cheap? %20%20%20 I'm entitled to my opinion that your opinion will be wrong, and I repeat, I do not doubt that AT ALL.

and till now i had never taken a dig at you predictions, i do not even remember most of them, but from now on i certainly will see how many of the things that you say will come true. will quote what you have said and see if it indeed has come true.

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You are still in touch with Mystery. Say my "Hi" to him.

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Originally posted by sam_ahmed

whoa! I only said you are lucky that some of your predictions came true (you give 10 possiblities about an outcome so something will come true anyways) how is that cheap? %20%20%20 
When I predict a series , I can just predict who might win the series. I never said that I can exactly say if it will be 2-1 or 3-1.What I predict is who might win the series. Sorry I dont have excess powers to predict each day scores, or number of wickets at the end of day.
 
Originally posted by sam_ahmed

I'm entitled to my opinion that your opinion will be wrong, and I repeat, I do not doubt that AT ALL.
I never said you are not entitled for you opinion.
 
Originally posted by sam_ahmed

and till now i had never taken a dig at you predictions, i do not even remember most of them, but from now on i certainly will see how many of the things that you say will come true. will quote what you have said and see if it indeed has come true.
I never said you took dig at my predictions. All I said was that I was happy about my predictions comming right, I believe that predictions are nothing but probablity which may or may not come true.
 
If my predcition comes true , I will be happy about it. If others' predictions does not come true, I wont take a dig at them.
 
If my prediction comes under a cropper, you can take a dig at it (if you like) , you are welcome to follow it (as you have posted it). But, I won't take a dig at yours if it comes under cropper,I will congratulate you if your predictions comes right.
 
One more thing , I don't make ten different predictions .. Here I have listed Ind/Eng as more worthy to win it.This is rating them by ability.More like who is worth winning the World Cup.
 
My WC predicitons are in "Be the Paul" thread.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sam_ahmed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 January 2011 at 6:47pm
Zimbabwe have announced a very very formidable WC squad and making a return is Sean Ervine after a gap of nearly 7 years and he is still 28.

Ervine, Taylor and Taibu form a very decent batting line up and then they have players like Charles Coventry and Elton Chigumbura who are very clean strikers of the ball... pace bowling is their weakness but their Spin Attack comprising of Price, Utseya and Cremer is again a formidable one.

Team: Elton Chigumbura (capt), Regis Chakabva, Charles Coventry, Graeme Cremer, Craig Ervine, Sean Ervine, Gregory Lamb, Shingirai Masakadza, Christopher Mpofu, Raymond Price, Edward Rainsford, Tatenda Taibu, Brendan Taylor, Prosper Utseya, Sean Williams
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sledger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 January 2011 at 5:28am
Zimbabwe are on the way back and playing pretty well - they'll be no pushovers next month.  Ervine is a welcome addition to the squad , his allround attributes will strengthen both the batting and bowling.  Any of the top sides who take them lightly could get a nasty surprise.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote spin wizard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 January 2011 at 12:55pm
Yeah, quite right guys and i'm happy for Zimbabwe.  Their pace options is pretty weak though and that might haunt them.
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Not really SW. This may well work in their favor just like the BD attack. They will not be going for many runs - it is their batting that is a worry ion my view.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sam_ahmed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 January 2011 at 1:39pm
They do have a fairly decent batting line up now Zuhair. We all know how good Taylor, Taibu and Sean Ervine are and even players like Lamb, Chigumbura, Coventry, Craig Ervine are no push overs.
 
Pace bowling has to be their major weakness. 
 
Ray Price will be the man to watch in the spin department... he is a very very fine bowler.
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Teams with lot of part time slow spin but accurate run controlling bowlers will have chance.Namesake part timers might not work.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sam_ahmed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 January 2011 at 3:47pm
wow, I think now we can use JP's threads for the discussion. Good that we now have a seperate section for WC discussion.
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So both Hussey's make Australia's 15 man world cup squad. No great surprise in that , David's spin bowling must have got him the nod.  What is surprising is Mike Hussey has a serious hamstring problem and might not feature at all. The selectors must think he's central to their chances of securing a fourth successive world cup.  If the rules are the same as in football , then players selecting carrying an injury can't be replaced if that injury doesn't clear up.
                   Hauritz and Smith are in too , Doherty misses out. Lee and Tait made it too , along with Johnson and Bollinger , Siddle doesn't go.
                   They'll still be difficult to beat , but they're there for the taking if Ponting and Clarke don't find some form.


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Pakistan definetly make it to the next round. They have a wonderful record in India. I think Sri Lanka, India, South Africa and Australia will reach the semi finals. One of Pakistan, england, NZL or WI could surprise us and make it to semis.
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I think they do allow replacements sledge and the logic behind selecting Mike Hussey seems to be that they expect him to be fit at least by the Quaterfinals.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sledger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 January 2011 at 7:03am
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I think they do allow replacements sledge and the logic behind selecting Mike Hussey seems to be that they expect him to be fit at least by the Quaterfinals.


      Yes Sam , that gives him a couple of months to recover from the surgery.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sledger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 January 2011 at 7:09am
England's final 15 contains only 1 surprise - the return of Matt Prior instead of Steve Davies. On form that looks a good call , Prior is comfortably the best keeper/batsman in England at present.
            Shazhad got the final seamers place over Woakes and Collingwood kept his place , as expected. 
               This looks a good unit with Swann , Yardy and Tredwell spinning and Anderson , Broad , Bresnan and Shazhad as the seamers.  Swann's currently injured and will be out for two weeks , but I think that mainly a precautionary measure. It gives Tredwell  a chance to turn his arm over - only Broad will have a question mark over his fitness.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sledger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 January 2011 at 8:29am
Andrew Hilditch just keeps 'em coming . His latest is his explanation as to why Nathan Hauritz got into the Australian WC Squad -
 
      " Nathan is our preferred spin option and his one day record in India is excellent."

  Simple enough until you see Hauritz's one day record in India..............

       Matches 7  Overs 62 Maidens 4  Wickets 4 @ 70.75  economy 4.56

       A request from an Englishman to Cricket Australia - please , please keep him on !!
 
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Times have changed Sledge - maybe these numbers are good enough for him. But on a serious not, I do think it is a good pick. He won't be that bad there. Better than Xavier and the likes.
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Guys hardly a month to go.Anyone for the prediction game ?
 
- 2 Points for every correct Group matches prediciton
- Predict  8 QF qualifying teams , 5 points for every correct prediction
- Predict 4  SF qualifying teams , 10 points for every correct prediciton
- Predict Finalists, 20 points for every correct prediciton
 
Then on Final outcome
(a) OR (b) conditions not both
(a) If the Winner is predicted right - 40 Points
(b) If the Runners-Up is predicted right - 30 Points
 
All predictions to be done before the first ball.


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Times have changed Sledge - maybe these numbers are good enough for him. But on a serious not, I do think it is a good pick. He won't be that bad there. Better than Xavier and the likes.


  Don't get me wrong , I think that Hauritz is the best of a poor bunch but Hilditch's comments are nearly as stupid as Buchanan's used to be!


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Putting stats aside and just by watching, Hauritz was doing very fine in ODI's and in Test Cricket too.  Due to him being slaughtered by the Indians, they got rid of him, as if better bowlers haven't been slaughtered there before.  Hauritz brings back a bit of balance to the Aussies, he's no mug with the bat.

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Hauritz will be the best bet for the Aussies. He brings with him experience of Indian soil and the ability to bat lower down as you said SW. His record may be poor but he just needs to be economical and he has a fairly healthy economy rate for modern day ODIs. That's more important than wicket taking at times these days. Anyway, I doubt anyone expects him to become a major wicket taker. Just gonna be used to get through overs quickly and to create a little pressure on one end.
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Scyld Berry wrote an interesting article about the World Cup chances of the sides yesterday in the Telegraph.   India , Sri Lanka and Bangladesh offer the best spinning options (no surprise there) and the one fact that raised my eyebrows was that in the trinations tournament in Bangladesh this time last year , the side batting second won every match !!   
       The participants were the three sides named above and the reasons given was simply because of the dew factor - spinners just couldn't grip the ball in the wet conditions.   My view is that the toss shouldn't have such a massive influence - to remove the dew factor the games should have been staged in the daytime.     In the World Cup just 12 of the 49 games will be day matches - the ICC have got it wrong again and the winners could well be the team with the luckiest captain at the toss.

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So we can safely rule Indian out now. Well again Sledge, it is not that the ICC does not know that the dew factor will be there, they have for sure submitted to the broadcasters' demands to milk more money out of it.
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Yep , the usual factor came into play - money.   It's annoying though that players and supporters alike will be on pins at the toss.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sam_ahmed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 January 2011 at 5:43pm
There should not be much of dew in late Feb and March, temperatures will be very high, I don't know about BAN but certainly in India and I think even SLN dew should not be a factor.
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