ICC World Cup 2011 (India - Sri Lanka- Ba

Calm down mates. Well I do agree that Pakistan does reasonably well in ICC events - it is far from being the best but they are very much on the road of progression and I will take the slow progress. And I share Sam's sentiments here regarding Sri Lanka - they will find life tough without Murali and Malinga in the longer version especially away from home.

And Kiran - I don't think you should drag religion into this. This is uncalled for. At no point did Sam make any reference to religion when it comes to his supporting Pakistan. My wife supports New Zealand whenever they play - and she takes no stock in Pakistan - and she is very much a Pakistani - I just digest it as her personal liking/disliking.

Originally posted by sam_ahmed another poor example of an Indian not being able to take anything good written about our neighbor country. also a case of very poor analogy, dragging results from 2003, leaving out 2009 CT, and while on one had it was a case of a young team trying to make an impact, this is the case of a team that has already peaked. having said all that SLN have a very good team but I doubt if they can be the best in the world in both the formats, most of their players as I said have gone past their peak and  unless they unearth some good young talent, they'd struggle to do be the best.

This is seriously damaging my reputation, totally baseless and uncalled for comments made in sheer frustration of I don't know what.

To Kiran - It is disgusting to say that I cannot digest the WC victory of India, not one single post of mine would suggest that, this is downright pathetic, I like Pak cricket and hence I say some good things about them, I would certainly want them to be the best team in all formats, how on earth is this related to India is completely beyond me. Please clarify on what basis have you made your comments.

To Raj - you are quoting my comments completely out of context or should I say giving them a different context, this is extremely disappointing. saying that many people look at Pak as a "muslim representation" how on earth, or even on other planets, is this related to saying that they are "muslim representation"?

as for my later comment, it was a plain statement which stated that since it were three muslim players who were involved in a corrupt act and since many people across the world look at Pak as a "muslim representation" it is an embarrassment for all Muslims too. does this mean that I'm saying "all muslims are corrupt" or "all pakistani's are corrupt?" or "pakistan is a muslim representation"? nowhere have I said any such thing.

Finally, by God's grace, I have many non-muslim friends who very well know that I support Pakistan and they have absolutely no problems with that. There is a friend of mine, she also supports Pakistan and a lot of her colleagues even tease her whenever a Pak match is scheduled asking her is she is going to be ill on that day and will be taking a leave. There is another friend of mine, he is a  non-muslim, and is as big a pakistani fan as I have seen in my life, he even fights with people if they say anything against Pak cricketers.

Add to this I know many many many people who support Australia, RSA, and other countries but it doesn't mean they don't love their country. I'm one of the biggest followers of Indian sports, I do not have to support Indian cricket team or hate Pakistani cricket team to show my patriotism. For me Indian cricket is not equal to Patriotism and I pity those who think on these lines.

As I have said many times before, my first choice team was India till the match fixing scandal broke out, they way they treated Azhar after that lead to my change of heart and I started supporting Pakistan after that, what I speak is the truth,  whether you believe it or not is up to you, but please no one has the right to make baseless comments against me.

To Zuhair and V4P - Thanks guys, I hope you will always understand your fellow human beings in the right spirit.


Edited by sam_ahmed - 15 April 2011 at 9:26pm

yes Zuhair, for the sake of the forums I will not drag this on the forum, esp on a thread which I started for WC discussion.

I have answers to all your questions Raj, including your remarks in red which are not to be generalized. I'll PM you my response as posting here is inappropriate.

Anyone who has to say anything to me on this can PM me, we need not post on the forum please.

Thanks Raj for digging into those threads to justify my opinion. And yes, even I don't want to drag this topic. All I can say is, my opinion is not baseless. And Raj, you have echoed my thoughts w.r.t Azhar's case. Even Jadeja was given the same treatment. And for your info Sam, Azhar has been one of the long serving captain for India. And there have been Mansur Ali Khan Pataudi also who captained India. And if that is the reason behind not supporing Indian cricket, Pak would have been the last country you would have supported. Not sure which is the country having least no. of match fixing allegations. May be England or New Zealand? You should have supported those teams.

Anyway, I don't have anything personal against you. Was just pointing out the wrong thoughts.

I don't think I need to add my voice to this, Mikey has just pointed out all I was going to.

It shows what lateness does.

P.S. It's been a while since I've talked to an Aussie fan who actually liked Tendulkar, I twas getting tired of the 'Ricky Ponting is better than Tendulkar' fans, seeing as that is what I've had to talk to recently!(Not counting this forum, since I've been away for a while.)