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    Posted: 11 August 2012 at 10:39am
The final squads are getting announced so I think it's not a bad time to start the thread for what is a world event.

India selecting Yuvraj Singh in what I think is a highly emotional decision, already people like Sourav Ganguly and Sanjay Manjrekar have raised concerns over his selection not just because of cricketing reasons but also because of Yuvraj's own health. Hrabhajan getting selected is also a poor selection on the face of it. He continues to be in terrible form. Personally I think the selctions of Dinda, Tiwary, Balaji and Chawla are also not very good esp considering the likes of Yusuf Pathan, Ambati Rayudu, Umesh Yadav and Rahul Sharma have been left out.

I'm happy with Pakistan's squad. in come Abdul Razzaq, Imran Nazir, Kamran Akmal and Yasir Arafat giving the team much needed fire power, this is a hell of a good team, some old names have been selected but I think this is a very fine selection for a WT20 event, only change I would have liked is Shehzad but I'm sure he'll get his due chance in the future. Raza Hasan is also an impressive selection.

RSA have got an impressive squad as well, Kallis is back but Smith is out, slightly surprising selection of Farhaan Behradein but he looks to be in good form... rest of the squad is as expected with the likes of Parnell and Botha coming back for LOI's. overall a good squad.

Group AGroup BGroup CGroup D
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A1 (England /AFG)A2 (India/AFG)  
B2 (West Indies / IRE)B1 (Australia/IRE)  
C1 (Sri Lanka/ZIM) C2 (South Africa/ZIM)  
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Mikey Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 August 2012 at 11:12am
If the Australians can band together and play as well as they do, individually in the IPL, then they have an outside chance of taking this thing out. I still, for the love of God, do not understand how George Bailey was made captain and how he can even justify a spot in the side. Need to play all our T20 specialists, Watson, Warner, Nannes, etc
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sam_ahmed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 August 2012 at 8:38pm
If we look at Group 2 then that is tougher provided the expected teams go through, irrespective of their position in league stages the spots won't change. If AUS have to get through, they'll have to beat the likes of India, Pakistan and South Africa which will be very difficult.\

In the league stages the only realistic upset we can see is Bangladesh beating New Zealand, there is a slight chance of ZIM beating SLN but that still looks difficult provided SLN are playing at home, and ZIM may find Malinga very difficult to handle.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote mystery Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 August 2012 at 11:03pm
Agree Sam India's selection is very wrong Nohit Sharma is useless in T20 not because he is useless but because they already have 5-6 top batsman who will anyway play so what is the use of picking another batsman? instead a guy like Yousuf pathan could have been a handy option and plus like Sam said Harbhajan, Dinda, Tiwary, Balaji and Chawla all are bad choice in my view the best players were - Yousuf Pathan, Rahane , Rahul Sharma and Uthappa.

Pakistan's selection is good apart from few mistakes like not picking Junaid Khan who in my view is a wonderful death bowler specially when compare to Gul who whenever the pressure is lose his line plus even Hammad Azam not there is a silly move why are we trying to pick him one series and drop for another i mean he and Razzaq both could have played - Only bad pick is Asad who in my view is not a t20 player.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sam_ahmed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 August 2012 at 12:57am
Yes I forgot about Rahane, he too would have been a very good choice for India, I also firmly believe bowlers like Umesh and Praveen would have been much better options than guys like Dinda who doesn't have quality at all or Balaji who himself looks surprised when he ends up getting wickets. May be I am a bit biased towards Rayudu because he is our local boy, but then he really has performed brilliantly ever since he shifted to Mumbai and surely if Sharma can be given so many chances, why can't Rayudu get one?

There is one other bowler who is very good and India may want to try, Shami Ahmed, believe me this lad will very soon make it to the national team.

I agree Mystery, Junaid should have been there, esp ahead of Sami if not Gul, but may be because they already have Tanvir as a left arm seamer they have gone for the pace of Sami, and also Junaid is particularly good with the old ball and in T20's the ball hardly gets old. Hammad yes, he should be a regular in the team, don't understand why they don't utilize him and groom him for future, Razzaq and Afridi won't be around for long, esp keeping the WC2015 in mind, Hammad must be given more chances.

However, based on the given squad, I would like to see this playing eleven in the WT20:

Hafeez, Nazir, Kamran, Shafiq, Umer, Malik, Razzaq, Afridi, Tanvir, Gul, Saeed.

I would prefer Shafiq because in the absence of Misbah you need someone solid in the middle order, although I admit if such is the case then Azhar was a better option, but Asad is not bad. Also with plenty of bowling options, PAK can afford to play an extra batsmen, this is where Kamran and Razzaq give brilliant balance to the side.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote sam_ahmed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 August 2012 at 7:10pm
KP not picked in England's squad, that's a real shame actually, Flower and Strauss are taking this way too far, trust and mutual respect ... what the S*** are we talking about, this is modern day cricket, people say a lot of things, move on, get a life!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote mystery Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 August 2012 at 9:11pm
Agree Sam its a common thing these days yet in my view England did the correct thing because i fully doubt Pietersen he will surely take a u turn once t20 world cup is done and would again cry for IPL so really its fine let him enjoy IPL and the money! 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sledger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 September 2012 at 8:31am
KP is a loss , but maybe not as bad as one might think. If he's been disruptive in the dressingroom , then best he isn't around.  In 20 over cricket just one batsman coming off can win a match and England still have lads that can do the business.
              No predictions from me as to who will win it though - it's far too much of a turkey shoot and any of 6 sides can take the trophy.
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Originally posted by Sledger

 No predictions from me as to who will win it though - it's far too much of a turkey shoot and any of 6 sides can take the trophy.
  Just curious Sledge, when you said 6 teams, among AUS,ENG,IND,NZ,PAK,SA,SL & WI, which are the two teams you counted out ?

I really can't say who would win, I can safely say the above 8 + BD could win it 2012 T20 World Cup.Good for Cricket Smile. I wish 50 overs was like that.


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Its really difficult to predict as all the teams are good. It all depends on there indivisual players during the T20 World. If players like Gayle, Pollard, Afridi, Imran Nazir, Yuvraj, Kohli, Watson, Warner etc. gets in good form during the tournament the all can win the tournament for their team.

For me WI, IND, PAK, SA, SRL, AUS have good chances to reach the semis.
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Originally posted by MalhotraRaj84

Originally posted by Sledger

 No predictions from me as to who will win it though - it's far too much of a turkey shoot and any of 6 sides can take the trophy.
  Just curious Sledge, when you said 6 teams, among AUS,ENG,IND,NZ,PAK,SA,SL & WI, which are the two teams you counted out ?


 I can't see NZ winning it Raj , so that leaves 7 sides in your list and I don't want to omit any of those !  Maths used to be one of my strengths before senility set in ! Wink
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I have a change of mind actually, Logically thinking, and looking at the groupings, I can say...

ENG, WI, SLN, NZL/BAN ... Making it to Group A 

IND, AUS, RSA, PAK ... making it to Group B

from Group A I'd expect WI, SLN to come through,lucky SLN as they have an easy group/
from Group B, which is a very very tough group, I'd expect PAK, IND to come through... this is very difficult to call but somehow I think these two teams have the edge.

so the semi finals could look like this:

WI v India
SLN v Pakistan

Final could be WI v Pakistan

winner could be anybody of those two.
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Sam i would go with this thing -

Semi finals -

WI v Pakistan
Australia v SA

Final Pakistan v Australia = Australia winning that is my prediction.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote spin wizard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 September 2012 at 4:14am
All the top 8 teams got fire power for this format.  West Indies will either blow hot or cold, they got the biggest hitting line up of all the team with Gayle, Smith, Pollard, Bravo, Sammy, Russell.  Its too hard to call but I expect SA to choke as always.
 
My bro maybe spot on though, he reckons one the sub continent sides will win it.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote kahmad Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 September 2012 at 8:55am
WI is the most dangouras team of this World T20 and with most dangouras batting Line-up as SW said, but they are also the worst side against spin bowling.
If they can handle spin well this time they could go very far in this tournament.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sam_ahmed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 September 2012 at 6:07pm
I doubt if Australia and South Africa will be able to handle the spin challenge mystery, that is where I think they may struggle, but then again I'm only saying what I think may happen, in T20's though, it's impossible to predict things accurately.

WI also have Sunil Narine apart from the big hitters, his presence is invaluable, among the subcontinent sides, I think Pakistan is the strongest. I'd still stick with WI as the favorites to win, Gayle force will be the key and Gayle force, I think will win them this tournament.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sam_ahmed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 September 2012 at 6:53pm
Forget everything else, the warm ups start tomorrow... I'm damn excited about this competition, first ICC event since the WC2011, I enjoyed every bit of that tournament, hoping for the same again.

Go PAK Go!!!
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Itn't the World T20 a bit of an overkill -  this will be the fourth World T20 in five years. In between there was only one ODI World Cu. I will be happy if my team wins - but I am not losing sleep if they crash out in the first round - quite unlike the ODI WC which keeps me more interested and worried
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sledger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 September 2012 at 8:29am
I'm with Zuhair here - I'm not too excited about yet another one day world cup.  There's been a lot of rain in the region and we might well have some seriously silly matches of 6 or 7 overs per side!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sam_ahmed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 September 2012 at 5:38pm
well I agree that it won't be anything as exciting as the ODI WC, that is altogether different, but I'll take this for the time being, as something is better than nothing. However, I certainly will midn if PAK crash out in the 1st R Zuhair, they should definitely do better than that. They will, although it is definitely the toughest group.

It's mid september so now the rains will not be that often Sledge and generally should stay away, SLN do get heavy rains again in mid October by retreating monsoons, but by then this should be done! 
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AFG absolutely hammered SLN A today, all I can say is, IND and ENG cannot take them for granted by any means, this side is damn exciting.
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They will surely get hammered by Indis and England.
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This is why I wanted Kamran in the team despite his poor glovework, he is capable of what other WK's PAK have tried aren't quite capable of, playing match winning knocks like the one today.  What a blazing knock of 92 from just 50 balls!!!

This win was important for Pakistan because of two reasons, one it had been quite some time since they had beaten India in any format, any game, be it a warm up, this win should help them get over that mental block, and secondly, the ability and belief to be able to chase big targets, it has been a long time since Pakistan had chased down something challenging. Very important win to get the confidence going.

For India their poor bowling showed up once again, and a scary thought, what will India do if Virat Kohli fails, do they have the answers?
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All set for the real magic that matters, I feel that there is going to be an upset in the tournament, and I am waiting for it, most likely group D where PAK/NZ might be knocked by BD. While in group B, I will not be surprised if Ireland spoil the party of AUS/WI (less likely) , coz if their opener Stirling gets going for 10-12 overs , then they can best the best in business.They have good bowling options. Impossible to guess though, it could be any team that could go out. I want high scoring and close games just like what IPL treated us this year.All teams are capable and looks like most of the matches will go down the wire.  

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Once again Indian batting failed they should understand that they need atleast 280-300 runs to be able to win as their bowling lineup is so great that even Scotland will struggle to get all out LOL
Balaji was extra special if he keeps playing than India might just play 2 more matches in this Cup.
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For the Semi-finalists I'd go with following four to qualify - India, South Africa, West Indies, England.
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My Tipp for the semis would be PAK, IND, SRL, WI
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Group D is indeed a tough one. BD won't go down easily. I won't be surprised if Pakistan or NZL crash out in the first round
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i dont think BD can do any damage to PAK or NZL. They can trouble teams only in Bangladesh. For me Ireland is much better side and could surprise WI or AUS.

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PAK will never go down to BAN, at least not now that they've got one over India, be it the warm up, they'll play with much more freedom now.

NZL can go down to Bangladesh but I doubt if they will, I think they have good players to overcome the challenge posed by the Bangladeshi's. I'd love to see BAN make it to the super 8's but just don't think it'll happen.

IRE can beat AUS, that is possible, if Stirling gets going and they have some good bowlers as well.

Ajantha Mendis doing some damage today, Zimbabwe mauled by Sri lanka... Mendis picking up 6!!!
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