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    Posted: 19 September 2012 at 7:26am
And Ajmal continues to torture the English - what a bowler - just love
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sam_ahmed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 September 2012 at 9:05am
Not the ideal result, but I'll take it, always good to lose a few games before the main thing starts, that is the way it has always been, teams that have struggles early on have gone on to win the WT20 every time. Wink
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sam_ahmed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 September 2012 at 7:32pm
ah! what a performance by Afghanistan, they go down fighting, well done Afghanistan! Clap in fact had they taken their catches properly they must have won easily... and one more thing I'd like to say, Shapoor Zadran and Dawlat Zadran made that new ball talk like anything and were at least 10 times better than the Indian new ball pair of Irfan and Zaheer... with this bowling God save India!

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Yup Sam with a bowling lineup that has Balaji surely going to win the Cup LOL
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Balaji isn't bad. He seems short of match practice - I rate him better than all others except Zaheer in India
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sledger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 September 2012 at 7:08am
I have to say that the competition hasn't got my blood racing as yet.  Afghanistan again showed that they're to be taken seriously , but their catching was woeful ! Zimbabwe got belted and will be going home tomorrow , Watson did well , but yet again didn't go on when set.
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Watson not too shabby - opened the batting AND the bowling. Took 3-for and scored a 50. Nice start from him. When he's in form, Australia do really well. People are saying Australia aren't a chance because they don't have a spinner, but let's not forget we have Brad Hogg in this format and he's bowling really well. I think if they can get David Hussey in the side instead of Christian, then Australia will be very formidable.
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Australia is a very strong side. They have good bowling attack. In Tough matches when the openers fail then they might have problems with this middle order. They need David Hussey for Bailey or White.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote sam_ahmed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 September 2012 at 7:58pm
Balaji is a nothing bowler and the fact that AFG's bowling looked better than the bowling of the World Champions tell a lot about the standard of this world champion side's attack. India are not going any further than super 8's in this tournament, not when they're going to have RSA, AUS and PAK clashing against them, sorry.

I agree on David Hussey guys, beats me as to why he isn't in the team, one of the finest T20 players around for sure! I'd say he should play ahead of Maxwell.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote mystery Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 September 2012 at 12:30am
Originally posted by zuhair_abbasi

Balaji isn't bad. He seems short of match practice - I rate him better than all others except Zaheer in India


He is not bad only by Indian standards like Sam said but when you compare with other teams he is really mile behind and Milky is spot on with Hogg in the side Australia's main weakness is covered.
And don't know 100% hope Milky or someone else clear it but i think whenever Hogg is in the team in big tournaments Australia have always done well infact have won all.

Very much agree with India they can really hope to get match against SL to have any chance otherwise they are likely to go back home and Sam i really doubt if they can afford to drop Maxwell as he is one of the only batsman in Australia's lineup that is hitting six otherwise Baily, White does not even look like hitting 4 let alone sixes so IF anyone needs to go its the captain Baily who is really a total misfit in the lineup.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Mikey Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 September 2012 at 1:41pm
Correct Mystery. Australia won the 2003 World Cup (Hogg was the replacement for Warne, who was done for doping, and he did a wonderful job to say the least), 2007 World Cup (again, Hogg excelled) and the 2009 Champion's Trophy. Hogg was in the 2007 World T20 Squad and did NOT play a single game, and Australia lost that tournament. Perhaps Hogg is some sort of lucky charm.

Australia's weakness is definitely the middle order. White's reinclusion is questionable, despite some decent form. In fact, one of Australia's best T20 batsmen for my money is actually Phil Hughes. I would not have minded if he was in this squad, at all. Bailey has actually done a lot better than people have expected, his runs so far in limited overs cricket have been useful (but he'd never been in my first XI). David Hussey is one of the best ever T20 cricketers and no doubt he should be in the first XI - for both his batting and bowling (Australia can definitely do with a second, useful spinner and Hussey certainly fills that role).

My team , as per the squad would be:

1. Watson (opening bowler as well)
2. Warner
3. Hussey, M
4. Hussey, D
5. Bailey* (although I don't believe he should be in the side, wouldn't bother batting him any lower)
6. Maxwell
7. Wade
8. Hogg
9. McKay
10. Cummins
11. Starc

Forget about Dan Christian, another useless inclusion. Australia, with Watson being such a useful all-rounder in this format, could easily play 8 batsmen if need be. I definitely think you could get 4 overs from either Hussey or Watson in this format, but I'd rather McKay being there in the side than White.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote mystery Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 September 2012 at 2:25pm
Milky the basic problem with Baily is he might be a decent player but once in T20 you get the momentum you really can not afford to lose it atleast in games like semi and finals that is why someone who is a hitter is much better than Bailey who is a not exactly the big hitter you need in T20s and yes Hughes would be perfect. My lineup

 1.Watson
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10.Cummins
11.Starc

I think Hogg,Cummins, Starc and Watson are enough for 16 overs and rest can put in 4 overs perfect side for a T20.
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Nothing wrong with your team there Mystery, nothing at all. Except Hughes and Mitch Marsh are not in the squad. Hughes absolutely crunches the ball, and his ability to hit square of the wicket and straight is actually very useful in this format. I also really rate Mitchell Marsh as an all rounder, particularly as a batsman and one guy I'd pick ahead of Maxwell is Steve O'Keefe - who is a much, much better spinner and still a good batsman. Johnson and Nannes aren't bad bowlers to have in the side either. Australia has good players for this format, I wish they could settle with a side and just make Watson the captain (more the adequate choice as captain in my opinion).
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NZL and ENG absolutely thrash their opponents, hammering of significant proportions being dished out, so it looks even more likely that the Top 8 test playing nations will make it to the super 8's. Pakistan and WI are the only teams to finish the job now, rest all are pretty much through.

As I had expected AUS have rised to the occasion and have looked good, their game against WI tomorrow will be a thriller, Gayle vs Watson should be thrilling to watch, they'll match each other for Six to Six!

SLN v RSA another very interesting battle, but I'd expect RSA to come through.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote Mikey Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 September 2012 at 3:28am
Doesn't look like we'll be getting any upsets this tournament, the big teams have 'turned up' and every team knows there's a chance at winning the trophy at the end. Windies are formidable in this format because they have a lot of dashers through out their batting line up and a very handy spinner in Narine, who can pose problems for this Australian middle order. I fully expect Australia to be at their best, otherwise this may well be the last time Bailey captains or even plays for Australia - all is on the line for him, and he has to make sure he gets 100% out of this side (and he really, really needs to play Hussey, D instead of Christian)
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sam_ahmed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 September 2012 at 7:26am
Even Samuel Badree is apparently an excellent spinner Mikey, so WI have both Narine and Badree in their line up, to go with big hitters or should I say Humongous hitters all the way till Darren Sammy at No.9.

The first phase of this tournament appears to be meaningless, I don't really see PAK or WI losing their games to minnows either, the super8's though will all come down to how a team plays on that given day. This is as open a WC as it can get!
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RSA beating SLN easily in a 7 over game, AB showing his class once again and a nice aggressive start by Amla as well. 

The second game agains showed why WI can never be predictable, so much for the tournament favorites, Gayle fired, but still AUS 100/1 at rain interruption and well ahead of the par score, I doubt if the game will restart now, it was absolutely pouring down. 

Once again AUS show why they can never be counted out and I must say we could get into a situation where AUS, RSA, PAK will all top their groups and still compete in the same group in super 8's... how pathetic!!! *Double face palm*
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Tomorrow is really a important game the loser wont win the T20 Cup. As Sam already said Australia, SA and Pakistan are already there and i expect them to reach finals so if India lose the match i am very much expect them to lose all 3 matches in super eight but if they win than they have a strong chance of making the semi but that too only if they chase otherwise defending in these pitches with their bowling lineup is not possible.


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No mystery, irrespective of who wins India will be placed in Group B with AUS, RSA and PAK. These groups won't change no matter who comes 1st or 2nd.
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Really confusing how is that possible i mean if India lose they will have 2 points and England 4?
So India should be A2 if they win they will be A1 but maybe i am missing something. Sam can you please exactly tell how this system works?
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The positions A1, A2, B1, B2, etc... are decided based on last ICC WT20 results mystery and won't change, they have nothing to do with how teams end up in their respective groups in this event.

For Eg: last ICC WT20 winner - England (A1) Runner up - Australia (B1), 3rd - South Africa (C1) 4th - Pakistan (D1), similarly 5th to 8th of last ICC WT20 are put in as D2, C2, B2 and A2, if say for Eg: Ireland qualifies in place of Westindies then Ireland becomes B2, even if Ireland had beaten Australia, they would still have been B2, Australia are B1 and that won't change. I know it's a bit confusing but I hope I have made it a bit clearer.

The bottom line is the super 8 groups will look like this, no matter who comes first or 2nd in group stages:

Group 1 - WI/IRE, ENG, WI, SLN
Group 2 - PAK/BAN, AUS, RSA, IND

the ICC have done this so that fans can easily book tickets for matches involving their teams in Super 8's. For Eg; All Pakistan fans know Pakistan is D1, so when ever there is D1 game it means it is Pakistan's game, they can accordingly book tickets in advance, the only scenario Pakistan won't be D1 is IF Bangladesh Qualifies in place of Pakistan, then BAN becomes D1.

Anyways IND beat ENG, PAK beat NZL< we are all set for some exciting super 8 action in a few days time!
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Wow this is crazy i mean 3 teams which are the best in 1 group which means one possible winner is likely to leave and i feel SA it will be while on other group only WI are good enough to be in semi as SL,Eng and NZ are not really there to win it.

So from Group 1 - WI and SL will go semi
Group 2 - Australia and Pakistan will go in semi
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Thank you very much Dhoni to going through our comments and Made pathan to open the innings to play 5 bowlers, as i see from here onwards if we play 5 bowlers in super eight we will be unstopable, vs Aus 3 spinners (Bhajji, Ashwin and Chawala) and 2 medium pacers( Zaheer and Pathan). Some people will say Pathan will be flopped if he opens, let him try for some more matches, if he succeed, it will be very good for team, becuase being a opener he is very good for the team to play 5 bowlers.
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Alpesh that wont happen Pathan was opening only due to Sehwag rested and he will comeback next match. Unstopable its a joke right?
This Indian bowling lineup will go all corners in super Eight trust me!


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Interesting fact about teams being bowled out for less than 100 is that in the season or year after they won the ICC World Twenty20, India (74 v Australia), Pakistan (89 v England) and England (88 v West Indies) were all bowled out for under 100.

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That is an interesting fact JP!!! Also, Just goes to show how unpredictable T20 format is!!!

Lets not be complacent Mystery, I have my concerns, Group 2 is very very tough, Yes India for me are the weakest if we can call them weak but Remember they are still a fine side, and they still have Kohli who can do serious damage and the their spinners can trouble both AUS and RSA big time.

My picks will be different Mystery, I'd go with PAK and RSA, I think RSA have better players of spin like Hashim, AB and Kallis and also they have better seam bowlers than Australia. So my picks are RSA and PAK, but Pakistan will have to play some seriously good cricket, can't drop catches for God's sake!!!

Also one point I wanted to make since a long time, has anyone noticed how impressive Mitchell Starc has been over the last few games? He has been brilliant!!! forget Pat Cummins, forget James Pattinson... Mitchell Starc is the most happening thing in Australia and I don't have an iota of doubt about this lad's bright future.
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I have completely different views of Starc. Yes he is sharp, but I would not rate him ahead of Cummins or Pattinson. He is not test match material for me yet. He takes a lot of wickets on bad balls. I know its a bad analogy, but for the lack of a better one, he reminds me of Agarkar, who was an average bowler (Starc is much better) yet ended up taking loads of wickets in one dayers.
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I think the rain will win the super eight groups.
The teams have to make sure they win their first matches and get on top of the table. It can be tough to get later matches like Ireland.
In Group A every team has the chance to win it but Pak and Ind are my favourites. In Group 2 it will be Srl and WI. But you never know in T20. Everything can happen.

You cant compare Starc with Agrkar. Starc is a really good bowler. I agree that he is not fully fit for test cricket, but he has the wickettaking deliveries.
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Yes Sam agree SA have strong chance but there is always something that is missing in them which just really does not make them the winner but one thing is for sure each of us here are sure of Pakistan as all have predicated Pakistan.
I agree with Zuhair that Starc does not look test standard but that was before he met Wasim Akram after that he is a completely different bowler when i first saw him he looks really lose type and basically at most a Odi bowler but since than he looks the real deal but i do agree that Cummings are Pattinson are much more talented skill wise but all these 3 will surely be top bowlers in coming years.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote Mikey Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 September 2012 at 4:53pm
Starc looked out of his depth in his first couple of tests, but you have to let the guy mature. He bowls at high speed, with a high left arm action and can curve the ball in. For me, he's doing just as much as what Zaheer Khan can do - and I think he has more potential, and pace, then him.

Australia has a lot of bowlers who take a lot of wickets in ODIs, take a look at Bollinger, Harris and McKay - their numbers are actually among the best in history. Quite phenomenal.
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