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milkman
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Topic: ICC World T20 - West Indies 2010 Posted: 24 April 2010 at 10:54am |
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T20 is unpredictable, but we are starting to see consistency and it will get to a point where it won't be an 'any team can win' sort of situation. We'll soon start seeing clear favourites and a ODI/Test style ranking system come into play methinks.
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Ideal cricketer: Bowl like Warne, bat like Tendulkar, field like Jonty!!
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sam_ahmed
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Posted: 26 April 2010 at 4:59am |
That is difficult to happen Milky, the shorter the format, the more unpredictable the results will be.
Going by the IPL we have seen a lot of promise from plenty of Indian players like Raina, Vijay, Dhoni, Pathan etc... and then players like Pollard, Warner, Gayle, etc... have shown how dangerous they can be... but still there are a lot of good players who were not a part of IPL like, Jesse Ryder, Michael Clarke, Umer Akmal, Mitchell Johnson, Aamer, Guptil, Razzaq, Afridi, Haddin, Shakib etc... and I'll be interested to see if they perform better or the players who played in the IPL perform better.
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milkman
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Posted: 26 April 2010 at 5:16am |
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I think we will start seeing teams emerge as favourites, but I can't see one team really dominating because all sides in the top 5 teams have the firepower to beat any team. I also think sometimes having good form doesn't always make a difference... I do however think if you are a talented, classy player you'll always play well. This is why Sachin makes runs so consistently in the IPL, perhaps he's not always in top form, but he's such a great player he'll always make runs.
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Ideal cricketer: Bowl like Warne, bat like Tendulkar, field like Jonty!!
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Posted: 27 April 2010 at 4:32am |
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The warm up games start today, good chance for teams to sort out their playing elevens.
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milkman
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Posted: 27 April 2010 at 9:35am |
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Australia missed a trick by not selecting Bollinger and/or Harris. Lee is not right at the moment and I'd pick Bollinger over Tait. Too bad.
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Posted: 27 April 2010 at 11:54am |
Milk its good for Australia that they have not pick Bollinger and i hope he does not play because i dont want to see him thinking like a T20 bowler and If he plays T20 his test bowling might get affected.
Edited by mystery - 27 April 2010 at 1:23pm
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Rohit Sharma - What the world has seen is gear 1, gear speed 2,3,4,5,7,8,9 to be witnessed in IPL only.
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sam_ahmed
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Posted: 27 April 2010 at 2:06pm |
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How about the weather forecast Spinny? doesn't look too great from what I see on cricinfo forecast.
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Posted: 27 April 2010 at 3:18pm |
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Where can we find the rules of the tournament? Will the points from the first round be carried forward? Also how will they decide the semifinalists? Top 4 teams overall or top team from each group. Also I remember some strange rule like A1 or A2 are fixed, not based on topping the group. Is it the same this time?
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Posted: 27 April 2010 at 3:23pm |
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yes its the same this time.
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sam_ahmed
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Posted: 27 April 2010 at 6:44pm |
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Easy win for PAK first up in the warm up game with Hafeez scoring a fine half century and boiwling quite well too, infact all the bowlers except Asif did well... Hafeez has been in top form recently and I hope he continues this in the main event.
As for the tournament rules, I think the teams do not carry forward any points, the top two teams from each group make the super eights where they are again divided into two groups, the top two teams again from each group make the SF's line up, and the winners will play the final.
Actually it's exactly the same as the last T20 WC in England.
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sam_ahmed
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Posted: 28 April 2010 at 4:43am |
Australia suffer shock defeat at the hands of Zimbabwe in the warm up games... and Brett Lee is out with a hand inujury. Easy wins for Bangladesh and Newzealand. Good to see one of my favorites Jesse Ryder back in form scoring a 30 ball 62 and Elton Chigumbura for ZIM proved once again that he is a very handy all rounder... and just look at the number of spin options ZIM have in their side!!!
This is the reason why I do not call AUS as the favorites in a T20 tournament, they have never been as good in this format, compare that to IND and PAK and both these teams have been consistent and have done extremely well in the shortest format of the game.
Edited by sam_ahmed - 28 April 2010 at 4:45am
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milkman
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Posted: 28 April 2010 at 5:54am |
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The squad is just wrong. Why 2 keepers? Why Dan Christian? Why 4 out and out fast bowlers, but no in-form Harris and Bollinger? Why Mike Hussey instead of the proven 2020 batsmen in Phillip Hughes?
This is my side that I'd have gone with:
1 Warner 2 Hughes 3 Watson 4 Clarke 5 White 6 D Hussey 7 Haddin 8 Smith/Hauritz 9 Johnson 10 Tait 11 Bollinger
You could even drop say Hughes and play 2 spinners as well because that batting is deep as it is. Really they picked the wrong side, even Michael Clarke in there... I'd pick Hughes or Marsh ahead of him any day in 2020 and have White captain.
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Posted: 28 April 2010 at 6:02am |
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agree with you to an extent milky, Billinger and Harris should have been in there... Marsh also is too good a T20 player to miss out really! not too sure about Hughes though, haven't seen much of him in T20's.
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Posted: 28 April 2010 at 6:50am |
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You will get your wish Milks - guess who is out? No points for guessing it though - with Lee injured yet again, they will draft in Bollinger most likely.
I do not see much in the warm ups except that it gives you the idea what eleven players are most likely to play.
Bangladesh look a very formidable side - and it could really be tough for either of Pak or Aus whoever has a bad day.
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Posted: 28 April 2010 at 8:51am |
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i agree with you Zuhair. BD have really a good chance to force a bad day for Pak or Australia. They have good spinners and they can play spin better than Australia. Hafeez always performed well in warm up matches and i dont think he can do anything in real matches. I dont know why Salman played in that match. He isn't a T20 opener.
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Posted: 28 April 2010 at 10:12am |
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Salman certainly does not deserve to be in the squad but he is there because Afridi wants him. I would rather play Khalid Latif for Butt. Hafeez has improved a lot in the past two years kahmad. You will see the difference this time for sure.
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Posted: 28 April 2010 at 4:21pm |
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Harris is in not Bollinger. Good move... too many left armers in the side as it is. Australia got 3 run outs in that warm up match and played around with their XI so don't look into that match too much... also they lost by 1 run not 50 runs , so again don't look too much into it. I'd expect them to beat BD and I think Pakistan will have to play their best cricket to beat Australia. I can envisage Australia doing much, much better when the heat is on and I'm hoping that the loss to Zimbabwe is a motivating factor.
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kahmad
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Posted: 28 April 2010 at 4:53pm |
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i think Pakistan will beat Australia easily if they play to their best. Pakistan is much more experienced than any other country in T20. Everyone is playing tapeball cricket in Pakistan and this is mostly around 10 overs. they are used to this pressure.
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Posted: 29 April 2010 at 4:43am |
Guys I think Salman will be suited more at No.3 in T20's and should be asked to hold one end, both Salman and Fawad can do this effectively while others can take their chances, anyways, it's up to Afridi and team management as to what they decide, I just hope they define the roles of every player properly.
2nd day of warm up games and the same old story with the windies, looks like NZL were 37/6 before posting 124 and WI collapsed to 117 from 86/1!!! The impressive Afghanistan side beats Ireland once again, now that's three times in a row I believe and India cannot take them lightly. RSA have beaten SLN while ENG prevail over BAN.
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Posted: 29 April 2010 at 6:07am |
Originally posted by zuhair_abbasi
Bangladesh look a very formidable side .... |
Blimey , then England must be superhuman !!
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Posted: 29 April 2010 at 7:12am |
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England? Oh that mix of Saffers and an Irish
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Posted: 29 April 2010 at 12:21pm |
most of the games are turning out to be low scoring affaris and slower bowlers are doing well, that's advantage to the sub continent teams.
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Posted: 29 April 2010 at 2:22pm |
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Could see Australia then play Smith and Haurtiz and Clarke might do some bowling... Harris , for sure will play I reckon. Still thinking playing too much pace is oh so wrong.
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Posted: 29 April 2010 at 3:18pm |
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Clarke is the best spin option for Australia. I think White can also bowl some spin.They can go with one regular spinner. But they cant match the asian teams in spin department.
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Posted: 29 April 2010 at 3:32pm |
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Hauritz took 2 5 wicket hauls against Pakistan with ease, while the Pakistani spinners got virtually no wickets in the latest test series. Hauritz is dangerous in this format and Smith has a lot of wickets in the KFC Big Bash T20 competition in Australia. I'd say Australia and SAF both have underrated spin attacks. Clarke is not Australia's best option, that's a very ignorant comment Kahmed.
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Posted: 29 April 2010 at 6:16pm |
Going by strength its only Australia should win the cup,No other teams comes near to them..
Warner Watson M Clarke M Hussey D Hussey C White Haddin Harris Johnson Hauritz Nannes
Wow what a team!Can't even think other team can beat them...
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Posted: 29 April 2010 at 10:06pm |
West Indies last their warm up game but the omens are good in that case. In 2006 CT they lost to Sri Lanka and then stormed to the final. In 2009 T20 WC, they lost to England comprehensive and then went to the Semi-finals.
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Posted: 29 April 2010 at 11:07pm |
Originally posted by milkman
Australia missed a trick by not selecting Bollinger and/or Harris. Lee is not right at the moment and I'd pick Bollinger over Tait. Too bad.
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If Lee is not right, what about playing his double Simon Whitlock? They look like brothers  anyone post a pic?
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Posted: 30 April 2010 at 4:33am |
now Zimbabwe defeat Pakistan!!! beating AUS and PAK in back to back matches is no fluke, well done Zimbabwe and PAK need to get things right very soon.
I won't miss my oppourtunity to talk now having heard a lot against Salman, his replacement Khalid has scored just 1 (at least Salman scored 18)!!! That's why I say guys get one man who really deserves that slot and I'll be the happiest man to see Salman give up his place.
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Posted: 30 April 2010 at 5:19am |
Zimbabwe spin prong attack needs to be treated with respect by the oponents. Price has wonderful control, even Chris Gayle who is simply belligerent couldn't get a proper hold of him during their recent series. Utseya flight will do well in these circumstances. Lamb is a bit like Swann, bowls em at a decent pace on a wonderful length and Cremer is a bright upcoming talent. I wouldn't be surprise if Chigumbura is their only seamer.
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