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Sledger
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Topic: India vs Australia 2010 Posted: 13 October 2010 at 10:52am |
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I can't see Ponting being around in 4 years time Kiran. Easy in the end for India , but you'd have to think 200+ on the 5th day would test any side against one of the top 4 rated countries. Not to be though and all those critics of the Aussie attack will be nodding their heads right now. Not only haven't they the strike power , but they lack control as well and India exploited that to the full. Tendulkar was sublime in this match and was a joy to watch - any aspiring youngster can do no better than sit through this test and watch just how a test innings should be put together. - simply brilliant. Three losses on the trot in tests for Australia is something that hasn't happened since 1989 (i think) and will give rise to some serious soul searching when the side to face England at the Gabba is discussed. As an Englishman I'm not sure that this 2-0 scoreline is a good thing - one of two things can happen , either Australia will bounce back with a vengeance or they'll just get worse !
Edited by Sledger - 13 October 2010 at 1:20pm
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Posted: 13 October 2010 at 11:33am |
Ponting might not be captain in 4 months let alone 4 years!
Agreed on Sachin, watching him of late has been simply marvellous, a man completely in control of his game.
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Posted: 13 October 2010 at 1:22pm |
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Now if India belt 'em 3-0 in the one dayers...................
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Posted: 13 October 2010 at 2:15pm |
Originally posted by Clobber
Ponting might not be captain in 4 months let alone 4 years!
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Even I have a gut feeling that, the upcoming ashes could be his last series as a captain Clobs. If he loses this one, I am sure, Aus selectors will not persist with him. Also would be interesting to know, who is the Aus captain who has lost max. number of ashes.
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Posted: 13 October 2010 at 2:18pm |
Originally posted by Sledger
Now if India belt 'em 3-0 in the one dayers...................
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That may not happen Sledge. No Sachin, no Sehwag, no Ghambir...I haven't seen the team, but heard that, all the major players have been rested.
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Clobber
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Posted: 13 October 2010 at 2:21pm |
Originally posted by kirankri
Originally posted by Clobber
Ponting might not be captain in 4 months let alone 4 years!
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Even I have a gut feeling that, the upcoming ashes could be his last series as a captain Clobs. If he loses this one, I am sure, Aus selectors will not persist with him. Also would be interesting to know, who is the Aus captain who has lost max. number of ashes.
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No Australian captain has ever lost 3 Ashes series - Ponting and Billy Murdoch have lost 2.
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kirankri
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Posted: 13 October 2010 at 2:27pm |
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Hmmm. Just goes to show how bad a captain Ponting is.
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kahmad
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Posted: 13 October 2010 at 2:37pm |
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He is a good captain and his performance on this tour has been also good. He cant do anything if players like North, Hussey, Hauritz are in his team. Every captain needs some matchwinners in his team. Dhoni has the luxury of having such great matchwinners in his team. Ponting has a wonderful record.
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Posted: 13 October 2010 at 3:13pm |
Captains are over rated, only a few persons can inspire men to achieve a bit more and that's why I don't buy much into players like Clive Lloyd, Ponting's win record as captain - for the sides they had, it didn't matter who was the captain, they would still win the same! You had to headache, just choose one of your main bowlers and things good.
Anyhow, surprised to see the rate in which India scored on a day 5 pitch! Didn't get to see the game but I suppose it had to be some terrible bowling to allow that to happen.
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Posted: 13 October 2010 at 6:09pm |
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congratulations to India first of all on a very fine victory, 2-0 and India extend their lead at the top of the test table. Excellent stuff by Sachin in this test, he is going from strength to strength and it was good to see Pujara in full flow, he is an extremely talented young cricketer.
The difference between the two sides was the lack of a good spinner, India had two fairly decent spinners while AUS had a very ordinary one. That allowed India to score quickly and the match was over by the time the ball was supposed to start reversing.
AUS should still do well against ENG, Ponting was never a good captain, he still isn't. He has a good record only because he had some great players to work with. Still I do not see him losing the Ashes nor do I see him losing his captaincy at least for the next 1 year.
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Posted: 13 October 2010 at 6:13pm |
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Question mark will be over either Yuvraj/Raina or Dravid's spot in the side to make way for Pujara. All I can seem to hear for sometime now is that he's going to be the next big thing in India. I feel Dravid will get an axing soon. Usually, the oldie gets thrown out when the young cupboard seems very bright.
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Posted: 13 October 2010 at 7:18pm |
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Good series, Australia to # 5?? Great batting from Indians, Little Master was very delighted, rarely we see him like this
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Posted: 14 October 2010 at 6:01am |
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yeah I am sure they were blushing like mad with the embarassment of it as they cracked open another bottle of victory champagne
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Not likely!
I really underperformed when my team one the finals a couple of years back, got myself out to a pathetic ball, but I completely forgot about it when we won, it was only looking at the scorecard that I realised I hadn't done ANYTHING much for the whole game!
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Posted: 14 October 2010 at 6:04am |
Originally posted by abubakar52
Good series, Australia to # 5?? Great batting from Indians, Little Master was very delighted, rarely we see him like this |
I wouldn't exactly say rarely....
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Posted: 14 October 2010 at 6:40am |
 Maybe wrong choice of word from me bladey. I mean hes usually not very ecstatic following victories
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Posted: 14 October 2010 at 9:30am |
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A good series win to India, still a shame there wasn't at least a 3rd test, we were only 1 wicket away from 1-1 instead of 2-0!
Re India resting players for the ODI's - aren't Australia doing the same? Ponting, Watson, Johnson?
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Posted: 14 October 2010 at 9:34am |
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Yes. Australia also have rested the major players. So the series may not be that interesting. It is more of testing the bench strength rather than the best 11 from each country playing against each other.
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Posted: 14 October 2010 at 9:38am |
Originally posted by bladescape
Originally posted by Clobber
yeah I am sure they were blushing like mad with the embarassment of it as they cracked open another bottle of victory champagne
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Not likely! I really underperformed when my team one the finals a couple of years back, got myself out to a pathetic ball, but I completely forgot about it when we won, it was only looking at the scorecard that I realised I hadn't done ANYTHING much for the whole game! |
Exactly mate, and for that one poster to suggest that anyone in the last Ashes celebration party was more busy fretting about getting out to Hauritz is cretinous in the extreme.
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Posted: 14 October 2010 at 9:39am |
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Which seems to me like a great shame. This is supposed to be the 2 top ODI nations facing each other, but yet they are both resting key players!
Is this the price of too much cricket? Is this what we should expect in the future, the best teams fielding weaker sides due to rotation policies?! I'm afraid the ICC needs to think long and hard about this...
But I'm not going to hold my breath...
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Posted: 14 October 2010 at 9:56am |
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Yes. This is because of too much cricket. Reduce the number of ODIs/T20s, have only 8 major teams to play in the first tier, ban IPL and Champions League - Some of the possible solutions, but might not happen.
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Posted: 14 October 2010 at 11:03am |
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No, it wont happen Kiran, because the lure of the money will always bend the views of the people who run it!
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Posted: 14 October 2010 at 1:42pm |
I wish I was an international player, I'd be as fit as a horse, wait, but i'll still probably miss being away from family for so long. Ok yeah, i'll definitely need some 'rest' which will actually be time off. he he
Yeah, it's tough being an international Cricket, it's not easy for those guys who have a majestic looking lady and person at home who they have to be away from for so long.
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Posted: 14 October 2010 at 6:40pm |
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India over do it most of the time, sachin hasn't played an ODI since scoring that double hundred and that was back in FEB, India have played just 5 tests since so he was not a part of any other International assignment.
Players like Dhoni, Zaheer, Harbhajan, Gambhir were all rested for ZIM tour and also for some ODI tournaments, still they play every IPL game, every CLT20 game and complain about too much cricket??? Rubbish!
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Posted: 14 October 2010 at 6:45pm |
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Gambhir is actually injured here.
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Posted: 14 October 2010 at 6:59pm |
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Ok I agree on gambhir but resting some of those players was not at all required, esp when they are happily playing in the IPl and CLT20. I don't even remember when was the last time that IND fielded their first choice eleven in an ODI.... ever since they got that No.1 position in tests their main focus has only been test matches.
what they do not realize is that if they do poorly in the upcoming WC which is in the subcontinent, it won't take long for the fans to forget all the good things happening now!
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Posted: 15 October 2010 at 4:20pm |
Sam, the WC is around the corner and India have 5 more Test matches to play, all those rested players will be in the Test Squad. Keeping the guys fit seems a key priority here (all those players can adapt without much practice, they're very experienced). The only sad point is it's depriving fans of quality Cricket. Nonetheless, it's a good time to test out the bench strength.
T20 doesn't take much out of you, that should have no bearing on players being burnt out. I mean, I don't even get burn out from playing it, why should those guys?
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Posted: 16 October 2010 at 10:59am |
Originally posted by abubakar52
Maybe wrong choice of word from me bladey. I mean hes usually not very ecstatic following victories |
Ah, well you're right there!
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Posted: 21 October 2010 at 5:17am |
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India 1-0 up in ODI's too!!
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Posted: 21 October 2010 at 6:51am |
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This Aussie bowling line is second string. What is Smith's role in the team? Is he a batting all rounder or a bowling one? He just bowled three overs which is absurd.
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Posted: 21 October 2010 at 9:40am |
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I dont think Australia have any chance to win wc this time. They are not that strong anymore. They have learned now how to lose a match. I know its their b team but in last decade or so their c team was also very strong. For me India is top favourite for the world cup. They played their c team against the b team of Australia. chasing down 290 without sachin, sehwag, gambhir is something special. and without their best bowlers Zaheer and Harbhajan.
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