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dips_december
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Topic: India vs Australia Posted: 15 October 2009 at 7:03am |
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Sun Oct 25
14:30 local | 09:00 GMT
1st ODI - India v Australia
Reliance Stadium, Vadodara
Wed Oct 28
14:30 local | 09:00 GMT
2nd ODI - India v Australia
Vidarbha Cricket Association Stadium, Jamtha, Nagpur
Sat Oct 31
14:30 local | 09:00 GMT
3rd ODI - India v Australia
Feroz Shah Kotla, Delhi
Mon Nov 2
14:30 local | 09:00 GMT
4th ODI - India v Australia
Punjab Cricket Association Stadium, Mohali, Chandigarh
Thu Nov 5
14:30 local | 09:00 GMT
5th ODI - India v Australia
Rajiv Gandhi International Stadium, Uppal, Hyderabad
Sun Nov 8
09:00 local | 03:30 GMT
6th ODI - India v Australia
Nehru Stadium, Guwahati
Wed Nov 11
14:30 local | 09:00 GMT
7th ODI - India v Australia
Brabourne Stadium, Mumbai
Australian squad : Ricky Ponting (captain), Michael Hussey (vice
captain), Doug Bollinger, Nathan Hauritz, Jon Holland, Ben Hilfenhaus,
James Hopes, Mitchell Johnson, Brett Lee, Shaun Marsh, Tim Paine, Peter
Siddle, Adam Voges, Shane Watson, Cameron White
The Indian team will be selected today and the selectors are in a dilemna whether to select or to drop Rahul Dravid.
Nice to see Shaun Marsh back in action. India's weak link will be their bowling once again while the return of Sehwag and Yuvraj will bolster their batting. Yusuf Pathan is all set to be excluded.
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 15 October 2009 at 7:10am |
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Just seven one day games? Surely somebody wants to say good bye to one day cricket.
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dips_december
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Posted: 15 October 2009 at 7:12am |
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Australia would be the first ones zuhair. 2 back to back 7 ODI match series'. Surely they've had enough of ODI cricket in the last month and a half. But the recent success will spur them on to hit the Indians hard. I expect it to be a good contest. Looking forward to Lee vs Tendulkar and Sehwag!
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 15 October 2009 at 7:34am |
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Dips nobody wants seven one day games in a bi-lateral series no matter how good the crowds and teams are. Indians play a hell lot of 7 match series at home - and it gets boring by the end.
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milkman
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Posted: 15 October 2009 at 9:27am |
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There won't be full houses I reckon. Test crowds are dead in India and ODI crowds will be soon enough. In Australia we attract the most fans to the tests and ODIs, they are extremely popular and the spectators have a high understand of the game. Indians are trivialising the game with all these 2020s. Australia has played a 5 ODI series v NZ, 5 ODI series v SA, 5 ODI series v SA (away), 5 ODI series v Pak (Neutral), 7 ODI series v England (away), a full quota of matches in the CT and now they'll play 7 ODIs v India (away). This is absolutely ridiculous.
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Ideal cricketer: Bowl like Warne, bat like Tendulkar, field like Jonty!!
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sam_ahmed
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Posted: 15 October 2009 at 11:19am |
Agreed it is a long series but I think it'll be a good one.
Dravid has been dropped from the ODI side, Yusuf Pathan, RP Singh have also met the same fate. Tyagi gets a go for the first time. He is in good form. Munaf's hard work has paid off and I'm very happy to see him back. He has been picking bags of wickets off late.
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 15 October 2009 at 11:59am |
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What a farce. Why the hell was Dravid picked for SRL tour and SAF in the first place if he was not the part of their long term plan? DO they want to keep him for difficult conditions when the so called young brigade can't handle the tough conditions? They should never have brought him back in the first place - dropping him is really bad.
Yousuf and RP have been rightly dropped though. they have not done anything of significance in the last year or so. You can't continue to play on your IPL performance. I don't understand why have they axed Nayar? How many chances was the young guy given? And also - the Indian selectors have erred in retaining Ishant. He should have been given a break - they need him for the longer version - playing seven games on dead tracks will only ruin his already ailing body and bowling both.
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milkman
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Posted: 15 October 2009 at 12:49pm |
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I'm pretty satisfied with the Aussie selections and I'm hoping Holland is not just a tourist, but will actually play. No Clarke, Ferguson, Bracken or Haddin due to injuries, which means Australia is indeed playing a weakened side. However the depth in the squad is strong and I expect the Aussies to be favourites considering their recent form and the ineptness of the Indian bowling attack. If the wickets are anything like that being used during the Champion's League I will not watch this series. 7 games is way too many anyway.
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Ideal cricketer: Bowl like Warne, bat like Tendulkar, field like Jonty!!
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dips_december
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Posted: 15 October 2009 at 12:56pm |
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The selectors deserve a slap on their faces. Is this how you treat a player who has time and again bailed the team out of trouble? You just bring him back from the wilderness and then throw him out. I hope they had a talk with him before the meeting because this will otherwise dent his confidence very badly. If performance is the key then Dhoni should have been the first one out.
Dravid's averaged 36 since he's come back and had he not scored those 76 runs and held one end against Pakistan, India might as well would have ended up with less than a 100. This is really a shambolic act by the selectors.
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Posted: 15 October 2009 at 12:59pm |
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Our selectors do have a few things common with yours Dips.
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milkman
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Posted: 15 October 2009 at 1:18pm |
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Robin Singh and Venkat Prasad have been dropped as fielding and bowling coaches respectively. Not that surprising, Prasad was never that good a bowler anyway and it doesn't look like he was fixing any of the problems with Sharma and RP (albeit you don't need to be a world class bowler to be a good coach, Troy Cooley did wonders for England's bowlers and Terry Jenner wasn't that great a leggie in his time, but has done a good job with some young spinners including Warne in his youth).
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sam_ahmed
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Posted: 15 October 2009 at 1:59pm |
I do agree they have not treated Dravid fairly but I never wanted Dravid in the ODI team. They should not have selected him earlier in the first place. Not because he is not good... he is still better than a lot of youngsters but keeping the long term plans in mind picking dravid was a step backwards.
Very happy that Robin and Prasad have been thrown out. The fielding and bowling didn't improve by even 1% in their tenure.
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milkman
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Posted: 15 October 2009 at 2:03pm |
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Robin Singh as fielding coach.. how? He's no Harper or Jonty that's for sure.
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Posted: 15 October 2009 at 11:41pm |
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Say what you guys want but I'm looking forward to a 7 match ODI series between these two teams. Sehwag is showing form, if Gambhir gets back some, it's gonna be a cracker!
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 16 October 2009 at 5:52am |
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Will they call back Dravid again when they tour SAF?
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mystery
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Posted: 16 October 2009 at 6:20am |
I think they made a big mistake if they dont want to play him on flat pitches thats fine but atleast pick him in the 15 if than they dont play him than its ok but not picking him in 15 is a silly move. Guys how good is Tyagi never seen him before.
Edited by mystery - 16 October 2009 at 6:21am
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Rohit Sharma - What the world has seen is gear 1, gear speed 2,3,4,5,7,8,9 to be witnessed in IPL only.
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Sledger
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Posted: 16 October 2009 at 6:45am |
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Got to agree with the comments over the Indian selectors - where is the consistency ? Dravid's exclusion shows their thinking is muddled at best , off the wall (no pun intended!) at worst. His return showed a complete lack of faith in the middle order by the selectors and India's performances of late have surely done nothing to change that perception. The pciking and premature discarding of Nayar just adds to the growing belief that the selectors in India are trying their very best to outshine their Pakistani counterparts. As for yet another 7 match series , I'll not comment for fear of having to ban myself for bad language !
Edited by Sledger - 16 October 2009 at 6:48am
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Mental disintegration works for me !!
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sam_ahmed
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Posted: 16 October 2009 at 7:04am |
Originally posted by mystery
Guys how good is Tyagi never seen him before.
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Tyagi has been picking a lot of wickets lately, he did well on emerging players tournament in AUS and has shown very good form even at domestic level, as far as I know. Munaf is the other one who has been in very fine form with the ball, he was very impressive in the Irani Trophy and then in the challengers tournament he ran through the India blue side (lead by Dhoni and comprised of many main stream players) to give India red a big tournament win!
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Posted: 16 October 2009 at 7:20am |
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That is a good sign then but HOPEFULLY he will not be flown to the seventh sky by the Indian media - just see what they have done to Irfan Pathan, RP and Ishant.
Edited by zuhair_abbasi - 16 October 2009 at 7:21am
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Posted: 16 October 2009 at 7:38am |
I shouldn't be saying this actually but in my view Munaf is a very simple man who has always been away from limelight, he comes from a very poor family and a very small village. You won't find him in even a single advertisement here or in any news making headlines for reasons other than cricket. (of course all that can change but as of now he is ok) Irfan, RP, Ishant all of them are much hyped and spoiled cricketers. One thing I found so funny was that we hear so much (esp. in urdu newspapers or minority channels) about how religious Irfan is and all that, and then I see him taking champagne bath and eating happily during Ramzan!
Edited by sam_ahmed - 16 October 2009 at 7:39am
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Posted: 16 October 2009 at 8:42am |
Originally posted by spin wizard
Say what you guys want but I'm looking forward to a 7 match ODI series between these two teams. Sehwag is showing form, if Gambhir gets back some, it's gonna be a cracker! |
Me too spin, I am really looking forward for 7 match series.#1 vs #2 thats exactly what I wanted for a long long time.
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Race to No 1 again ... started!
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dips_december
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Posted: 16 October 2009 at 5:05pm |
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Loved this article on cricinfo : http://www.cricinfo.com/indvaus2009/content/current/story/429814.html .
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sam_ahmed
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Posted: 18 October 2009 at 7:58am |
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well obviously there is no clarity on the part of the selectors. Personally as I've said before, the youngsters, no matter how poorly they perform, should have been thrown in at the CT09. They got knocked out in the first round anyways, so it couldn't have been worse right?
Now the selectors and everybody are looking like jokers because of the lack of trust they have shown in the younger players, and such a senior player like Rahul is being treated in such an unfair manner. pathetic! This has always been the case with the BCCI and IND. I don't want to start this all over again but this is how they treat every person who gives his all for the country... they get thrown out as if they are useless... That is why I hate the BCCI.
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Posted: 18 October 2009 at 8:12am |
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It's like when Hughes got dropped after the Lord's test. They made the junior player the scapegoat, despite the fact that Australia smashed England, without winning, in the first test and Hughes only played 3 innings (he was wrongfully dismissed in his last knock as well). Then Hilditch, the chief selector, states that if it was any other series (i.e. not an Ashes) they wouldn't have dropped him. That's pathetic, they didn't pick a back up opener, in fact the only 2 back ups were all rounders - Watson and McDonald, as Symonds was sent home for disciplinary reasons. Every team is really struggling in this department of selecting players. Common sense needs to prevail... not picking Haurtiz for the Oval Test was just as bad. Australia have cost themselves with selection issues and I think India might put themselves in the same position.
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Posted: 18 October 2009 at 3:03pm |
I think this series is very important for India if they lose this than there might be alot of chances and Dhoni's captaincy might be under threat.It will be a great series i hope Holland does well.
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milkman
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Posted: 18 October 2009 at 3:10pm |
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If India lose I can imagine heads will be chopped... they have some big issues with their pace attack, no bowling all rounder and their depth has been questioned.
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Posted: 18 October 2009 at 3:53pm |
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Dhoni's captaincy might be under threat. |
Dhoni has done enough to get captaincy till next World cup mate.That will never happen anytime soon.
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Race to No 1 again ... started!
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Posted: 18 October 2009 at 5:05pm |
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We never know mate BCCI can do anything.
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Posted: 18 October 2009 at 6:16pm |
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Milks is right, selection is a problem worldwide, I don't think any gets more bizarre than what goes on on my side.
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Posted: 18 October 2009 at 6:38pm |
Originally posted by MalhotraRaj84
Originally posted by mystery
Dhoni's captaincy might be under threat. | Dhoni has done enough to get captaincy till next World cup mate.That will never happen anytime soon. |
I Agree, Dhoni's captaincy will not be under threat any time soon Mystery... but yes if IND lose the series then we might as well see some team changes.
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