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    Posted: 03 May 2012 at 5:42am

RCB has a good team, but also a worst captain. In my opinion rcb must drop daniel vettori and pick Murali because we lack wicket taking bowler in the middle overs and thats hurting them badly and replace Vettori (since he is not taking wickets) with Murali, and make someone else captian (AB, or Kohli)

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I agree with Spinny even a number 11 can hit a six with the way the bowling is going but as we all know its not Pakistan its BCCI no one will even dare to say something to them.
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Chris Gayle has been the man leading the tally of highest six hitters with 29 sixes and KP's following him with 20 sixes,Sehwag@third with 17.

now what this implies is that every batsman who is there is there because he is capable and no amount of contrived circumstances would make a subaltern player breaking into these big names.

now Chris Gayle has got 33 percent more sixes from the next best clearly depicting the kind of batsman he has been,he carries one of the heaviest bats with him which generates such power that his miss hit stays hit for a comparative big six as he makes the boundary look as far as your drawing rooms wall on tv,forget about a clean contact many times it is seen that the ball was dispatched out of the stadium- i can count more then two occasion where he did that just from the top off my head(not in this years ipl though),   i wonder if he is the hardest hitter of a cricket ball the game has ever seen,cant say ,didnt see Viv Richards batting in his heydays.

so to deny what he is achieving as planned would be a bit unfair.

besides, the name involved in IPL are just too big to stake their name in a farce like match fixing,for eg: Mukesh Ambani,the owner of Mumbai Indians who is the second richest person in Asia, 19th in world,has also been 3rd richest in the world. The IPL will never ever generate enough money for him to risk his reputation as trust is what makes a shareholder buy stocks.

I imagine if there ever was a chance of match fixing in IPl it would just have to go down to the uncertain nature of the world or an individual. Not on the basis of what we see, not on the basis of reasons related to IPL or the number of close matches(t20 might just be evolving or teams could be very well evenly matched by chance).Anything is possible who knows.


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for what a man would like to be true,that he more readily believes.
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In all four IPL's there have been many International/Indian Internationals players (who represented international level) who have flopped , while the same players in few other seasons they have been a super hit.While some have always been a hit.

In the same way (but in lesser capacity) , there have been lot of domestic players who have performed very well, while some have flopped

There is a reason to it --first of all every IPL team has 4 foreign players and 4/5 Indian (international) players.Majority of the times we see that these Foreign/Indian internationals taking much of batting and much of bowling.This leaves inexperienced Indian players very limited opportunity to prove themselves.That too we know this is a T20 tournament is not a platform where talent can be judged.

Then isn't it but obvious to target a domestic player (coz he has less experience?). That said I have seen the world's best bowlers too get beaten left right and center.

Inspite of all that, every season there have been domestic players who have excelled, at least those players who got opportunity made it count.

Still some people who say "Pathetic domestic" players, I can't help , but pity their reasoning and cricketing knowledge.

Some who dislike IPL have following attitude,
- If IPL games go to last ball , they are fixed
- If IPL games don't go to the wire , it a big bore
- If batsman hits sixes , bowlers have bowled pathetically
- If batsman can't , then pathetic cricket is on display
- If someone gets hat-trick it is again fixed , even if some gets hit badly in an over it is fixed.
- CSK won because some BCCI member is there, RR won first coz Modi had stakes in RR..Infact even if any teams wins it is because of their money power.(Some IPL haters can create some strange reason why DC won second IPL)
- If it is a super over .... it is damn obvious that it is fixed.

Now PWI need 16 runs of 12 balls , malinga has one over .... Another classic in making.Whatever way it goes ... some would say it is fixed.
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I would like to say just one thing if anyone thinks that any of IPL matches are classic than he has not seen test cricket - close finish does not make a match a classic its the buildup that makes it a classic match.
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Mumbai wins by just 1 run , another classic I would say ... wow what entertainment it has been.Cricket season simply can't better than this.

Anyway, looking at the MI vs PWI scoreboard , None of Foreign recruits/ Indian international players could make an impact for PUNE. It happens, coz this is T20 format. Domestic players got an extended opportunity and really  stood up.

It can be seen that B Kumar 3 overs 9 runs for 2 wickets , while in batting Mithun Manhas 42 of 34 balls, while B Kumar came at crucial junction and scored 10 of 6 balls and almost pulled it out, but not quite.

Just as I had said for years, in IPL domestic players get very little opportunity and but whenever they get , we see them contributing.


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Ganguly such a legendary player and captain, I don't understand why does he fails to understand his time is over. Neither he is able to middle the ball nor he is getting runs. He just can't inspire as a Captain. He is pretty rich, not sure if he is still playing for pride or still living in false belief ...Dear Saurav please for the sake of your millions of fans get retired, you are too classy to be seen as struggling like this...

Please learn something from Gilchrist and Sangakkara. They both dropped themselves from the playing eleven. Yes, Gilchrist is injured. You are also in the same age league as Gilchrist and it would definitely give some promising youngster a chance to show his game. Don't rob them of their opportunity. Your lucky bowling in one game really made you think that you are a good bowler. So grow up. What is one game. If you decide to drop yourself and let Clarke handle the captaincy like David Hussey for Punjab and I assure the owner Subrata that Pune can also enter the playoffs.
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two of the more close finishes made the sunday a good advertisement for IPL.  the first one was settled when Dwayne Smith smacked thee consecutive bounderies off Ben Helf,all through the straight, and attained the required 14 runs in last thee balls. another was finished by a scintillating inning from AB,where he ploughed runs all round the park with all sort of shots in his 17 ball 47, he particularly shocked fellow countryman Steyn with his footwork,who earlier had hushed 'the king of t20s' aka Gayle with an intmidating maiden.
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Got in time to Sachin Tendulkar, marvellous innings that.  Tendulkar still looks like he can play for 3 more years.  Its incredible who he keeps on going on and on.  I don't know why bowlers constantly aim for yorkers, its very high risk if you miss your mark ever so slightly.  Slower bouncers and fast bouncers are far more effective at the death of limited overs cricket.

Lastly, De Villers is the best currently playing.  That was a display of some of the most awesome piece of batting I have witnessed.  The man just picked up the line and length so fast and did anything he wanted with it. 
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I have not seen such destructive batting in my entire life. Dale Steyn will not forget that over for years. He fired in a Yorker at 150 km/hr and AB went back and thrashed it to covers for a six. No other batsman in world cricket could have done this. What a finisher this man is!!! Hats off AB!!

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IPL 5 has very interest showcased some stunning performances from individuals...I think this edition of IPL has taken T20 cricket to a different level altogether. Mornie Morkel's 19th over against RCB was a gem...Peterson, Rayadu show against King XI and now Dwayne Smith and AB....Hope this continues till final and we see some good cricket than late night parties.
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Crowds come to see Ganguly.
He is a big reason people switch on their TVs to watch a Pune game, or check the score on the net when Pune Warriors are playing.
If the price of Ganguly playing is that Pune lose, maybe from the owner's point of view that is a price worth paying.

Ganguly fails again.
14 off 18 at an SR of 77.
Opened the batting - probably thought he could get some easy runs with the fielding restrictions on.
Wasted 3 overs.

He may come back to form in IPL6.
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Ganguly's team selection too was highly questionable, he never really allowed the side to settle down, esp the foreign players, dropped Ryder when you know he is an impact player, played Uthappa lower down the order when he is a better player opening the innings, played Clarke purely on his reputation and "name" when Tamim could definitely have been tried at least, esp since they were losing anyways... 
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Chris Gayle did it today.  Sachin has gotten back some touch in these last 2 games.  They're saying on commentary that Gayle bats with a 3lb bat, damn, that's heavy.  Poor Sachin is reduced to 2.12 lbs these days, due his troublesome elbow.
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Well done Delhi..! DD rocks..! Way to go Veeru......we all want DD playing the Finals and most probably win this time..!

David warner is a very very good batsmen when it come to the shorter form of the game. he needs to work on his test batting!
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This unending tournament continues... just saw the news that Ganguly has been dropped and the PWI owner has said that this is Ganguly's last year in IPL.

I've seen a few games just to watch Gayle bat, and boy has he batted well... AB has been magnificent too.
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Just cant wait for Windies series to start so we can finally see some real cricket!

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Big day at Barclays premier league.Will be rooting for City to lift the Championship.IPL's race to top four is just as exciting this year!

This year has been a treat for a true sport fan, hope the remaining season emulates the first half.
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At last my team won , Man oh man ... what a match it was.Horrible,City simply snatched back the championship in dying seconds of the match.
What a drama, gong into extra time Man UTD were about to win the 20th title (Man U was leading 1-0 against Sunderland, while City was trailing by 2-1 against QPR) ... during extra time when rooney was taking that corner , City scored the equaliser , then when UTD finished their +3 extra time , they were still about to win as City Vs QPR are locked at 2-2 ... by the time City finished their +5 extra time they were Champions. What a finish , what a goal by Aguero on 94th minute to make it 3-2 and seal the match and championship. This was truly an epic finish.Winner decided on last match , last seconds and that too on Goal difference.
Found a nice banner in Etihad stadium ... City are the CHAMP16NS, That was nice.
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Literally I have lost count of number of twists and turns this IPL has given, the number of exiting moments there has been.

Simply put cricket in one season with fantastic exciting finish on a trot day after day, match after match. Can't get any better than this.

No matter what the rest of the matches turn out to be , but for me this is EPIC IPL-5.

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http://www.espncricinfo.com/indian-premier-league-2012/content/current/story/564837.html

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The channel showed footage of a player bowling a big no-ball in a limited-overs match and played a recording of a phone conversation that it said was of a current IPL player negotiating a fee for bowling a no-ball.

It also had at least three other players on camera allegedly seeking more lucrative deals - including extra money that would have violated their IPL contracts - with other league franchises through an undercover reporter posing as a sports agent.

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Hahahaha, Amir, Asif, Butt style being used here.  Well, it was only a matter of time before story like this emerge, which echoes what i've been thinking all along.  Some of these games just don't look too right to me.  That report may or may not be true, but in my opinion, IPL is fixed big time!!

I'd even go as far and say the English Premier League soccer too!!  Man, i've watched a few games this season, absolutely shambolic how some quality players can play like the way some guys did.
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I have not seen any of the videos neither heard the news about it , but if few guys have learnt the dirty tricks of spot fixing something like what the infamous trio did , then they simply should be banned accordinly. As simple as that.
 
If at all there are players who indulge in such practices , they should be ousted at the first instant as they spoil the name of cricket, wherever they play, becasue match fixers do not have a character.
 
Assuming even if the report is true about some players induduling in spot fixing , how come IPL 5 is fixed.
 
I can see the whole world simply try to tarnish a good game of cricket.
 
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Well Raj, i'm one guy who isn't wishing bad on IPL, i'm glad its putting money in people's pocket, even to guys who didn't really have a proper shot at international level - it makes more cricketers make an earning, and for that very reason, I hope it lives on.  But still, it doesn't hide the fact that I still think this IPL, along with one other, that I found to be very fishy!  I've played a lot of cricket, and know its very highly unlikely to constantly have close games everyday.  I know the gap between players quality is not so wide, which leaves more room for competitive and close battles, but still.... 
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I switched on the TV to see the news.Even before I say other things , I damn sure that some of the  guys who never believed spot fixing scandal that happened in England even after concrete evidences, and it took them almost a year to accept that there was spot fixing , will now gladly consider all this episode as true even before trial. They will now not even ask for solid proof, they will not say "Not guilty unless proved". Will the same guys talk about conspiracy theories now?

Spin, I know that you don't wish bad on IPL. Even I have played lot of cricket ( though 16 overs a games ). I have seen that against equally matched teams more often than not , it goes down to the wire.Cricket is such a game that it automatically expands itself. Then over a period of time , playing against same teams you start developing certain strategies which work.

Giving just one example ... Aussies scored 434 for the first time in history, the same day SA scored it , WHY ? - That is how the cricket happens. When team score very less ( less than 100 ) , still we see sometimes teams chasing make it very difficult for themselves.

Now coming to the latest news. They showed a video that was of some other tournament where it is accused of spot fixing a no ball  ... not in the IPL , now that player is supposed to be in one of the IPL teams.

Other evidence is a phone call , where accused player is saying he can't bowl more than one or two no ball in entire tournament .The player has come on record saying that it is doctored and he is innocent.He will put a defamation case back on the channel.

Third one is about one of the franchise paying its player more than what it is supposed to be  -- where does the match/spot fixing come here.This is a player payment issue.

Anyway regarding the first two cases , if it is true that they have indulged in MALPRACTICE, they should be punished heavily for it.As simple as that.Spot fixing and match fixing is a menace and it must be removed from the grassroots. Sufficient solid proof and enquiry has to be done just as it was done by English authorities before any sort of punishment.

Whatever evidence I have seen on TV, even if it is true ... I don't see how IPL is fixed.
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I saw the video, as Raj pointed - its of some other tournament. Ban the player if he is found guilty. IPL is too high profile, spot fixing won't be easy here. It could well be a bluff form the press to earn cheap name. Lets wait and watch.
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So The IPL governing council has suspended five players named by the India TV sting operation alleging corruption until a committee appointed to investigate the accusations conducts its inquiry. TP Sudhindra (Deccan Chargers), Mohnish Mishra (Pune Warriors), Shalabh Srivastava (Kings XI Punjab), Amit Yadav (Kings XI Punjab) and Bali were the players suspended, according to IPL chairman Rajiv Shukla.

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If they are serious than they must get the main players out it wont change anything by removing 5 useless player just to show the world that they really care. For me if they really care than they must look for the big fish becuz without them fixing cant be possible specially captains.
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I hardly care about all this... but I find the argument of IPL having high profile or highly reputed and rich people hence it cannot be fixd to be completely illogical... some of the biggest scams in the world have seen some of the richest people being involved, the 2G scam in India has accused some very very high profile people of corruption, so that argument is just a waste.

Having said that I'm not saying the IPL or some of it's matches are fixed or anything as such, they may be, they may be not, I don't know and honestly I don't care... 
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There are two aspects here Spot Fixing and Player Payment.

This looks more of an issue of player payments rather than dirty spot fixing.Well regarding the player payment I always felt that IPL governing council erred in putting a player cap on certain players.Why is it that when IPL franchise was sold, there was no cap on bidding a franchise ownership.Similarly even if an uncapped player is worth and performs better , he should get better deal.

Going forward IPL should scrap the player cap.That is the way to go.

On the sting operation and video clippings
- Incidentally the all the players whose name has propped were the ones who had joined ICL
- Shalabh Srivastava (Kings XI Punjab) : Is not a part of IPL-5 Kings XI team.( the one who is supposed to have agreed to bowl a no ball),but he claims he is innocent , he claims all talk was regarding contract with agent.
- Only TP sudhindra is part of DC, but his video clipping was of some local match. (So if found guilty , has to be punished accordingly)
- Monish Mishra's tape was about trying to get more money , better contract. Well even in video , sometimes he says he was paid 1 crore , then he says 1.5 crore.Was he just trying to increase his worth.

Anyway , whatever ... guilty of any sort should be punished accordingly.

So where is the question of IPL getting fixed here ? Anyway some people will never understand.

One more thing, the sting operation was done 10 to 12 months back.Why did they want to expose this during IPL.They should have exposed all this well before IPL started, they had all this evidence before or were they trying to sensationalize few more things? hoping and waiting for few more incidents that would put more doubts ? or were they hoping to implicate few natural slip up by players on field as fixed.

Spot Fixing case looks weak here, but it cannot be ruled out.Nine franchise and so many players, BCCI/IPL can't control everything or monitor every player 24/7.So they got work at hand to clean up if at all there is a fixing mess.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote jaysjay Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 May 2012 at 7:32pm
The channel reporters have been said to have hounded players around relentlessly for an year or two(you must know these scandalizing animals in India TV,they would crucify a saint just to make a sensational headline,the channel is notorious for spicy chats-once were adamant about doomsday arrival and kept running the story 24 seven for quite a while only to later on denying it and how it was just a theory for weeks,the name that this channel has made in bogus reporting is legendary)and best they have come up with is these five players who are dissatisfied either of not getting a proper shot as they were not even in the final eleven of their respective franchise- hence bad mouthing this and that,and desperately seeking a better offer from a different club.

and worst they have come up with is this second grade player who again is not a regular,was offered more then 100 thousand dollars by them,double his present salary- as SALARY from a different club plus the chance to play, and asked him later to do if he could do something along these lines-match fixing if they got him playing this better club, they then got it out of his mouth that most he could do is bowl a no ball and that in once in 20 to 50 matches.


remember there was/must have been a lot of cut and paste and twists to all the recordings.

now give me a camera and funds to approach anyone anywhere, after an year or two of this, it shouldn't be hard  to come up with some low grade hopeless players to do some talking in any part of the world.They kept me glued to tv in hope of watching big names getting revealed as billed by the channel- and they brought up these who are mostly never heard of before,who were most of the times were shown to be keen on getting a better franchise while not talking of fixing.

besides one of them said on record - no one can fix the matches in the way people seem to believe, one could bat slow or ball no-balls as some possible ways, he said a six cant be fixed,i say a fantastic catch can't be fixed neither can be a good ball or shot.

the recording they showed in a local a list match contained a no-ball which was as obtrusive as the one Amer bowled.Its not that easy, even with the skills of Don Bradman coupled with the acting skills of an oscar winner actor a player could hardly dodge the suspicion and fix every shot or ball.




for what a man would like to be true,that he more readily believes.
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