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Binish Yelling
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Topic: Is Irfan Pathan like Wasim Akram? Posted: 02 February 2006 at 4:14am |
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Wasim gave him some good tips specially about indipper and now you can clearly see him as a better bowler but I still think he need to work on his out swing its not that effective as Wasim's ones.
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prayas
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Posted: 01 February 2006 at 10:34pm |
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what do u mean by sheer pace
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shan
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Posted: 01 February 2006 at 11:40am |
Righto, Pathan is yet a kid with a lot of career ahead. He may develop from good to a great bowler, but one thing he would lack throughout his career is sheer pace, thats for sure. So no comparison with Wasim.
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Posted: 31 January 2006 at 11:08pm |
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Wasim was the master of reverse swing along with Waqar. He had all kinds of yorkers. Wasim had all kind of balls and all kinds of variation.
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Posted: 31 January 2006 at 10:08pm |
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i think irfan doesnot have the inswinging yorker that wasim was well know for
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Posted: 31 January 2006 at 8:22pm |
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Pathan doesn't have as much variation as Akram. Akram was certainly a better bowler but Pathan is the better batsman.
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Posted: 30 January 2006 at 11:38pm |
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I have no idea if pathan is like akram because....I never saw Akram play before...but i know he is a legend....
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Posted: 30 January 2006 at 3:55pm |
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cman guyz stop comparing indain and pakistani players.
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Posted: 30 January 2006 at 12:24pm |
And mate, Gavaskar was such a mean player, never played for the team. I have watched him a lot, never convinced that he was really a team player. He always batted India to defeat.
And Sharja is also a neutral place, it not part of Pakistan soil. Have u ever studied geography.......well just get a map and it would do the job.
U can call Miandad anything, i won't mind, becoz u don't even know Imran Khan. U r such an ignorant person.
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Posted: 30 January 2006 at 12:21pm |
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Nothing equalizes Afridi's inflicting severe pain to India.They feel like hell while bowling to him. Whatever he is, inconsistent or whatever they really fear him.
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Posted: 30 January 2006 at 11:31am |
also what shewag did to naved ,,, in first match
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Posted: 30 January 2006 at 11:28am |
Originally posted by shan
yeah i know the current form of Sachin, he has been a failure for too long now. Despite that u can give him a big hand. Big hand to little master.
What about Shahid Afridi, Krisdy, punishing indian attack like hell, they looked miserable when Afridi is on fire. Four sixes to Harbajan in a row, the poor soul. And Indians are way behind Pakistan, just see the records. So if u are always annoyed with Inzi or any other Pakistani player, it is quite undrestandable. Keep it up, but it wont help India a lot. 
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u talk of afridi ,, ha ha ha what dhoni did to shoaib ,, 4 fours in over ,,, shoiab was so frustrated that he bowled a beamer to stop him 
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"I go by present and present says - Sachin IS the BEST , Shewag is going to be the next best and Dhoni's is gonna rock the world with his brutal assaults - GOD help the rest of the world"
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Posted: 30 January 2006 at 11:27am |
Originally posted by shan
And these guys i mentioned above were great players. Now dont say Gavaskar was better than Javed Miandad. Former always played for himself, the later always led the team to victory. |
moreover dont ever try to compare that stupid miandad with the great Sunil gavaskar ,,, minadad was nothing more that a street cricketer ,, he never had class , neither any records to show except for that last ball six
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"I go by present and present says - Sachin IS the BEST , Shewag is going to be the next best and Dhoni's is gonna rock the world with his brutal assaults - GOD help the rest of the world"
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Posted: 30 January 2006 at 11:25am |
Originally posted by shan
And these guys i mentioned above were great players. Now dont say Gavaskar was better than Javed Miandad. Former always played for himself, the later always led the team to victory. |
for me all that counts was the four world cup matches btn India and Pakistan ,,, every time in front of the world ,,,,,when everyone was watching ,,, India have insulted pakistan .
and yes all those were on neutral pitches and not at sharjha 
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"I go by present and present says - Sachin IS the BEST , Shewag is going to be the next best and Dhoni's is gonna rock the world with his brutal assaults - GOD help the rest of the world"
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Posted: 30 January 2006 at 11:19am |
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And these guys i mentioned above were great players. Now dont say Gavaskar was better than Javed Miandad. Former always played for himself, the later always led the team to victory.
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Posted: 30 January 2006 at 11:14am |
And if u still feel unsatisfied, just remember Salim Malik at Calcutta, when in last six overs Paksitan needed 66 to win and Malik ruined Indian bowlers, by leading Pakistan to victory.
And Javed Miandad, with a wonderful six, in Sharja Cup final. Still u may say. How does it feel mate?
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Posted: 30 January 2006 at 11:11am |
yeah i know the current form of Sachin, he has been a failure for too long now. Despite that u can give him a big hand. Big hand to little master.
What about Shahid Afridi, Krisdy, punishing indian attack like hell, they looked miserable when Afridi is on fire. Four sixes to Harbajan in a row, the poor soul. And Indians are way behind Pakistan, just see the records. So if u are always annoyed with Inzi or any other Pakistani player, it is quite undrestandable. Keep it up, but it wont help India a lot. 
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Posted: 30 January 2006 at 11:07am |
Originally posted by shan
It was good to see Pathan on fire. What an achievement. But Pakitan recovered well with a wonderful knot from Akmal, what a knot. 
But Pathan lacks sheer pace, which was one of the major characteristics of Wasim's bowling early in his career. But as India does not have real speedsters with sheer pace, ever in their team, so Irfan would hopefully have a lot of oppertunities to play as their main stream bowler, and would retire with a lot of wonderful records under his belt. As far as variety is concernd, Pathan is capable of develpoing variety, in his bowling as the time elapses.
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In your words but morphed
It was good to see Inzy of late on fire. What an achievement.
But Inzy lacks consistency throught carrier, which was one of the major characteristics of Sachins entire carrier career. But as Pakistan does not have real batsman with talent, ever in their team, so Inzy would hopefully have a lot of oppertunities to play as their main stream batsman, and would retire with a lot of wonderful records under his belt. As far as variety time is concernd, Inzy time is almost over ,, coz he will have to retire .
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"I go by present and present says - Sachin IS the BEST , Shewag is going to be the next best and Dhoni's is gonna rock the world with his brutal assaults - GOD help the rest of the world"
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Posted: 30 January 2006 at 11:04am |
Originally posted by shan
It was good to see Pathan on fire. What an achievement. But Pakitan recovered well with a wonderful knot from Akmal, what a knot. 
But Pathan lacks sheer pace, which was one of the major characteristics of Wasim's bowling early in his career. But as India does not have real speedsters with sheer pace, ever in their team, so Irfan would hopefully have a lot of oppertunities to play as their main stream bowler, and would retire with a lot of wonderful records under his belt. As far as variety is concernd, Pathan is capable of develpoing variety, in his bowling as the time passes on.
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thats exactly what happened to Inzy of pakistan ,, pak didnt ever have a decent batsman at the top consistntly ,, so Inzy is ending his carrier with so many runs ,, coz every time he had to play [or as u said pllay] ,,
and the same thing applies when Inzy being compared to Sachin
Sachin was consistent for 90% of his carrier ,,,Inzy laked Consistency at of being at the top always 
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Posted: 30 January 2006 at 11:00am |
It was good to see Pathan on fire. What an achievement. But Pakitan recovered well with a wonderful knot from Akmal, what a knot. 
But Pathan lacks sheer pace, which was one of the major characteristics of Wasim's bowling early in his career. But as India does not have real speedsters with sheer pace, ever in their team, so Irfan would hopefully have a lot of oppertunities to play as their main stream bowler, and would retire with a lot of wonderful records under his belt. As far as variety is concernd, Pathan is capable of develpoing variety, in his bowling as the time elapses.
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Posted: 29 January 2006 at 2:29pm |
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pathan is a real hero who has always rescued inida drom difficult situations even by batting .
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Posted: 29 January 2006 at 9:09am |
Amazing bowling by IK Pathan in this decider of the series.
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Posted: 29 January 2006 at 6:22am |
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.I m watching test match between Pakistan n India.Pakistan is 55\6 and Pathan has bold hatrick.
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Posted: 29 January 2006 at 6:12am |
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Yes it is true Pathan get training and tips from Wasim but he his himself a able person to got tips and he has proved himself.I m watching test match between Pakistan n India.Pakistan is 55\6 and Pathan is bowling vey well.
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Posted: 29 January 2006 at 5:51am |
Originally posted by saadadvanced7
Well, Pathan is being used a lot by Dravid (bowling). He bats well too. Maybe, that will become a bit too much for him eventually as he ages or maybe he will cope with it even better as he gets experienced. |
thats right he will develop a lota as a bowler when he plays a lot more matches and then i think he ,may likely be compared to wasim.
i have heard that he got his lessons sform wasim . is that true??????????????
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Posted: 29 January 2006 at 5:43am |
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Pathan disappoints in Alianz Cup pak vs iondia test series
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Posted: 15 January 2006 at 3:31am |
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Well, Pathan is being used a lot by Dravid (bowling). He bats well too. Maybe, that will become a bit too much for him eventually as he ages or maybe he will cope with it even better as he gets experienced.
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Posted: 07 January 2006 at 12:42am |
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yes maybe
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Posted: 07 January 2006 at 12:34am |
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pathan seems to be a very good tempered individual. i think he'll be able to handle everything that is thrown at him.
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Posted: 07 January 2006 at 12:22am |
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i think that he should devote time equally to both disciplines if he has thatmuch potential.
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