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Rind
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Topic: Is Irfan Pathan like Wasim Akram? Posted: 04 December 2005 at 10:27am |
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I many times feel that Irfan bowl like Wasim.He has also get a little training from him and also use to get tips from him.
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krisdy
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Posted: 04 December 2005 at 11:37am |
Originally posted by Rind
I many times feel that Irfan bowl like Wasim.He has also get a little training from him and also use to get tips from him. |
In other quotes as I have told,, u simply cant compare GOOD players with GREATS.
u cant compare anyone with Lara or sachin,
u cant compare anyone with jhonty when it comes to fielding and list goes endless ......GREAT's and GOOD's are always miles apart.
One series performance or couple of years good performance does not make a GOOD player GREAT.
GREAT players perform throught their carriers.
Boss ,,, WASIM is the greatest left hand bowler till date .Irfan is still very young and u cant compare him with WASIM.
Chaudhary was a great bowler with the highest wickets in ODI,Its good that he gave Irfan little tips , but Ifran had an ear to listen to the great - thats attitude.
Well the bowling style and looks ,to a great extent are somewhat same,,, u can call GURU-SHISHYA [i mean Mentor - student].
But when it comes to batting ,,, Irfan is a complete player ,, coz many ppl dont know this ,, Irfan was chosen as a batsman when he was under 15.
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Posted: 04 December 2005 at 11:47am |
keep making useless topics and you will surely beat sledger one day  .no way i am going to compare that irfan crap to wasim. the reason you feel irfan is like wasim is that he copies his style and nothing.now dont tell me you wanna keep on discussing this for the next five pages or so. try to be more creative next time
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Posted: 04 December 2005 at 1:08pm |
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Pathan is an excellent bowler but he still has a long way to go and we will have to wait and see...
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Posted: 04 December 2005 at 6:06pm |
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wasim is great irfan is rubbish
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saadadvanced7
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Posted: 05 December 2005 at 8:39am |
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I totally agree with you...Irfan can't be compared to Wasim. Wasim was a great player...Irfan compared to Wasim is garbage...and we'll see what Irfan's accomplishments are by the end of his career. Wasim is the highest ODI wicket-taker. He holds other records as well.
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Rind
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Posted: 06 December 2005 at 2:09pm |
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I m not comparing them.I just want to say Irfan is like Wasim Akram.But if compariing Wasim is Legend and Irfan is rising.
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Posted: 07 December 2005 at 12:22am |
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Well, that makes sense. Irfan is like Wasim. He is a very good left-arm bowler and someday he might accomplish just as much as Wasim or even more.
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DRAVID FAN
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Posted: 08 December 2005 at 12:56am |
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i as an indian say that wasim is better. he is almost a legend and pathan is still new and fresh. he may reach high levels but he will have to improve a bit more. when wasim bowls the batsmen feels the pressure. when pathan plays the pressure is felt but not as much as wasim. wasim is almost as gud as imran khan but not better
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Ayas_Capri
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Posted: 08 December 2005 at 11:13am |
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U cant rally compare Pathan with Wasim ..... U know the reason. He is quite new to the cricketing arena and only time will tell what Pathan will be after some years down the line....But currently his attitute and his mentality really show that he has the ability to be likes of Wasim and Imran......Good luck Pathan
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Posted: 08 December 2005 at 11:40pm |
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Yea, you are correct, only time will tell if he is really like Wasim...but right now he looks like he certainly has the potential to be as good Wasim Akram.
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Posted: 09 December 2005 at 12:56am |
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i do think so myself. and the kid can also bat. to me he seems to be the first genuine allrounder since kapil dev.
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Posted: 09 December 2005 at 2:12am |
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Yea, if you're talking about India, I certainly agree with you. He can bat and bowl.
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Rind
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Posted: 26 December 2005 at 9:08am |
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Wasim Akram was also a good all rounder but Pathan is also good.I m afraid he can take india to 1 position if he go like Wasim Akram
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Posted: 28 December 2005 at 1:38pm |
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Wasim Akram was not an all-rounder. He could bat sometimes and even then, it's not like he had proper batting technique.
Irfan Pathan is certainly a better batsman then Wasim Akram, but Wasim is a much better bowler. I think Irfan Pathan could become like Wasim Akram.
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Posted: 28 December 2005 at 2:03pm |
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pathan at times can be a bit expensive but once he gets his first wicket hes a wicket taking machine
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Check out my blog http://crictopia.blogspot.com/ pretty bad though...
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Posted: 28 December 2005 at 2:03pm |
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hes bowling average in test cricket is phenominal
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Check out my blog http://crictopia.blogspot.com/ pretty bad though...
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Posted: 28 December 2005 at 2:43pm |
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His bowling averages in both forms of the game are great.
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Posted: 04 January 2006 at 6:48am |
He may become like him in the bowling prespective but with the bat Pathan is better
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Posted: 04 January 2006 at 7:50am |
Are u guys fools. Wasim is absolutely brilliant. He was sharp in pace, accurate enough, conventional swing both ways, reverse swing and he was a left armer, which gave variety.
He was alos a more then useful batsmen, clean striker of the ball. Hitting sixes was his forte. 12 sixes in an innnings against Zim, he got 257* that match, superb (not the best bowling attack, but still brilliant). Also he got a few more 100's in tests and was a handy player in the lower order for Paki and all of the 1st class teams he played for in England and Pakistan.
I rest my case.
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Posted: 04 January 2006 at 9:20pm |
He was a useful batsman but there is no way he was an all-rounder like some people claimed earlier in the thread.
I read a book called 'ESPN Legends of Cricket' and in that Sachin Tendulkar says "Wasim is an exceptionally talented all-rounder..."
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Posted: 05 January 2006 at 12:50am |
ok maybe Wasim was a great all-rounder towards the end of his career his batting to a great fall and i don't Pathan is going to be like that
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Posted: 05 January 2006 at 3:01am |
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Pathan's batting is no doubt better than Wasims but Wasim's bowling had so much variety, that its unbelievable and Pathans bowling won't have that kind of variety.
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Posted: 05 January 2006 at 3:29pm |
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wasim is almost a legend. pathan is new. after maybe 7 years he might become like wasim not now.
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Posted: 05 January 2006 at 3:32pm |
Ofcourse not now. Irfan Pathan is a good left-arm seamer but he doesn't have the variety that Wasim had. He doesn't have reverse swing. Wasim had conventional swing and reverse swing, both in great control. He had great control over his line and length. And with all those factors mixed together, he still had good pace.
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ANIL KUMBLE
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Posted: 05 January 2006 at 3:37pm |
i have never seen wasim akram ball so i wouldn't have a clue if pathan bowls like wasim
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Check out my blog http://crictopia.blogspot.com/ pretty bad though...
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Posted: 05 January 2006 at 3:40pm |
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Pathan comes no where near Wasim's bowling right now and I don't think he will ever have as much variety as Wasim did in his bowling. But Pathan could very well accomplish just as much as Wasim or even more if he continues like this.
He is only 21 and is already the spear-head of the Indian bowling attack so he could very well accomplish more than Wasim Akram. Irfan might become the first bowler in the history of cricket to take 500 test wickets, and 500 ODI wickets.
Why I think Irfan is going to accomplish all this is because he is so young and already so good, so if he continues on current form, he will turn out to be a great left-arm bowler.
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Posted: 05 January 2006 at 3:44pm |
i knew pathan was young and fresh but 21 i didnt know that he could be the first to score 3000 test runs and 300wickets unless someone already done that if not then 4000 runs and 400 wickets
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Check out my blog http://crictopia.blogspot.com/ pretty bad though...
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Posted: 05 January 2006 at 4:04pm |
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I am sure that he can acheive the feat of 4000 Test Runs and 400 Test wickets.
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Posted: 05 January 2006 at 11:28pm |
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just give pathan his chance guys. he'll come through and in a big way. i was so surprised at his batting ability since the australia series last year. i feel that tryin to compare him to wasim akram is not right. the guy has potential, but he just needs some more time on both counts.
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