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Originally posted by Monty

yeah and drop the negative comments

I was only stating a fact.

Originally posted by Sledger

Agreed TCA , so long as India can find a solid opener and allow Kartik to drop down the order.

well i can actualy see them recalling Sehway eventualy..Theres no way they've finished with him.

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one thing about Karthik.

I know averages arent important but I feel the need to point out Karthik's. He averages 32 at first class level. Is there a reason for this? Why is he being brought into the side if he isn't going to be keeper? How did he get noticed if he wasn't performing well in the first class arena. I'm very confused.

Originally posted by strokemaker

one thing about Karthik.

I know averages arent important but I feel the need to point out Karthik's. He averages 32 at first class level. Is there a reason for this? Why is he being brought into the side if he isn't going to be keeper? How did he get noticed if he wasn't performing well in the first class arena. I'm very confused.

people who actually watch cricket and understand what they are looking at are able to spot ability without constant deference to averages

Averages mean everything. Stats, despite what anybody says, DO MATTER. Over a period of time, they do show achievements and then obviously failures. A players ability can be subject to opinion, but if he has an average formed over a decent amount of games, it can give a definitive answer.

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Cricinfo's player profile will help you, but long story short.....he was no where near the national squad when he had one heck of a season and was moved right to the fringe of the national team.

Originally posted by TCA123

Averages mean everything. Stats, despite what anybody says, DO MATTER. Over a period of time, they do show achievements and then obviously failures. A players ability can be subject to opinion, but if he has an average formed over a decent amount of games, it can give a definitive answer.

And this is what annoys me.

Averages are nothing but guidelines. It's what a player has done, not what they will do. Cricket is probably one of the most unpredictable sports when it comes to the players.

All who play it know what I mean here. One bit of luck can change everything for someone. A dropped catch, an unpredictable bounce, an inside edge that just misses leg stump are all perfect examples of just how unpredictable cricket can be.

Averages and strike rates don't ever show the whole picture. What about the players who've hit a bad patch in form? It takes a while for the stats to recover and show it.

What about the anchor men that stay at the crease and allow guys at the other end to get the good averages and strike rates?

Or the bowlers who deprive the batsmen of runs at one end so the bowler from the other end takes more wickets due to pressure on the batsmen?

When the stats start to show this then I'll consider them truly useful. Until then I'll just look at them as a basic overview of a player and nothing more than that.

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karthik is very impressive but sometime I feel that his attitude is not great for his circket. he feel that he is a superstar and this attitude effect his fielding ability just see his attitude in fielding, in test series he dropped 2 important catches. I asked him about his attitude but the ignored my question. I hope he will correct his attitude because he is such a talent. I rate him above than dhoni. dhoni is a good hitter but kathik is a better player.

The only person who should be scared is Gambhir because he is making some poor scores and Karthik is doing really well wit the bat at the moment.

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Edited by spin wizard - 31 August 2007 at 5:31pm

In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage.

Originally posted by spin wizard

Form is temporary, class is permanent! And I don't mean it the way it usually is suppose to mean.

yeah but 4 off 22 balls with your only runs coming from a streaky inside edge is pretty bad, even without any form at all.

I think it was the pressure to score quickly that got to him, he should've batted like Yuvraj, but he didn't so he ended up seeing a wide ball and trying to hit it too hard, at least thats the way I saw it.