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MrLee
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Topic: Laver & Wood Prv Bin or Bradbury SterlingPosted: 24 March 2006 at 11:26pm |
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Hi,
I am having lots of trouble deciding between a Laver & Wood Private Bin and a Bradbury Sterling! Anyone who has used any of these bats or any bats from these models, please provide your views. I can only get one good bat and I need to know which one is better, I am really confused! ![]() ![]() Thanks |
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Hugo
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Posted: 24 March 2006 at 11:29pm |
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hi i have a laver & wood private bin and it is by far the best bat i have use in a long time. although i have never used a bradbury sterling i still think that lavers are generally made better because they are made to your exact specifications and the sterling isn't, however the sterling is obviously a brilliant bat but you cannoy go wrong with a private bin. also the service from laver is excellent, just ring them up and they will sort everything out for you.
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henjam
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Posted: 24 March 2006 at 11:31pm |
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Hi i have a laver&wood private bin, i was soo impressed with it i have just got another one, the heritage model but with carbo stickers and handle, and like the first one its a gun. they are very helpful their , they make a bat completly suited to your game, where as the sterling i believe is a set model.
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Posted: 24 March 2006 at 11:44pm |
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What do you guys like about the bat? How is the ping?? How many staright grains do yours have, I am looking for about 9-11 Straight grains. What is the picku/feel like. What weights do you guys have them in. I want a bat that is about 2'8/2'9 but picks up like a 2'6/2'7.
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henjam
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Posted: 24 March 2006 at 11:51pm |
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yer the private bin seems perfect for you, my private bin has 12 dead straight grains, pings so well, especially as i have used it for a couple of months, the willow is so light, soft and pingy, my private bin is 2lb 7 and a half, my carbo 2lb 10
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Posted: 25 March 2006 at 12:03am |
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Can I just ask something here?
Most of you seem to be young guys just making your way in the game. As such does it really matter how many grains your bat has? Quite where you get the money for some of these bats as well.... Point being at this stage of your life wouldn't you be better off honing your technique instead of faffing around with expensive bats? (Bear in my I post this from the perspective of someone who knows a LOT about bats) |
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henjam
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Posted: 25 March 2006 at 12:04am |
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alright calm down, grains are not a major issue in this topic anyway.
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Posted: 25 March 2006 at 12:13am |
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Calm down?
It was a totally rational question |
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henjam
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Posted: 25 March 2006 at 12:15am |
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ok sorry, but back to the topic
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MrLee
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Posted: 25 March 2006 at 12:17am |
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Hi Clobber,
I understand about how I should be focusing on my game, and I do. I pratice each of my strokes for at least an hour a day, working on technique etc. But the bats I have don't seem to help. The previous bat I had was way too heavy. I am of light build. then the secnd one was lighter but didn't have that "ping" or power to enable me to hit the needed boundaries sometime. Edited by MrLee |
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Posted: 25 March 2006 at 12:26am |
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Don't get me wrong, there is no question a good bat makes a difference but they are not a cure-all
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Posted: 25 March 2006 at 2:42am |
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GET a bradbury there the best bats with a huge profile and a excellent pick up there bats have the perfect wood and paul and sally are champion bat makers and the best have used their equipment
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Posted: 25 March 2006 at 4:50am |
That is true. If a rubbish player buys the most expensive and best bat in the world, it doesn't mean that person will become the best player because he has that bat. |
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Posted: 25 March 2006 at 7:08pm |
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yeh i have had "expensive bats" and i am only 13. But i do pratise my technique i would guess alot more than you do. Right now im plying 4 hours of cricket a week. and its soon to be 6 hours. I'm busy preparing for the summer. Right now im working with some coaches with my footwork. And have some sessions booked with the best spins bowling coach in the west of england.
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Posted: 25 March 2006 at 10:47pm |
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Well, I guess I beat you then
I play about 7 hours a week, excluding my 1 and half hour training and 2 games which go for 4 hours and 6 hours.
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Posted: 26 March 2006 at 9:30am |
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i play cricket at school and play seniors juniors reps and yer i think youve all lost there play cricket atleast once everyday of the week I use bradburies and there awesome my brother (symmo) uses screaming cat which are also very good but his is too light for me |
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Posted: 26 March 2006 at 9:39am |
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in my opinion, i think just get a bat which fits into your price
range. Fo around ~$400, just get a fusion or a bradbury. There is no
need to spend in excess of maybe 500, to get a descent bat. I know many
people want a bat which is perfect, but fusion and brads are close to
perfect anyway.
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Posted: 26 March 2006 at 12:47pm |
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mrlee remember its your season in aus rite now. in England we're still in the winter. in say a months time, i to will have around 8 hours.
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MrLee
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Posted: 27 March 2006 at 6:14am |
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So currently 3 people prefer Bradbury and 2 People prefer Laver and Wood.
And By the way. My season finished last week! ![]() EDIT: So those people who use/ or have used Bradbury, please provide your views on it. How is the Ping etc. Grains. How is the pick up compared to dead weight? Feel of the bat etc. I am getting to think that Bradbury bats are higher quality than Laver and Wood bats. I emailed Laver and Wood and they said that a Private Bin Bat that would cost about 190 pounds would only have about 7 straight grains. Edited by MrLee |
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Posted: 27 March 2006 at 8:05am |
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Its personal preference.
I have a bradbury and I have swung a friends L & W. Both very very high quality pieces of timber. If you are in WA, go checkout Middlepeg or check them out online www.middlepeg.com There is a shop in canberra called 5 Star plus that stocks both as well. Kingsgrove sport in sydney has 4 Screaming Cat bats which should also be checked out. Also have a look at the Puma Tributes that are floating around Greg Chappel Cricket Centres (syd, melb, bris). Both the S Cats and Puma tribute are very very similar and almost a similar shape to THE L & W I got to swing. The S Cat and Puma Tribute (tribute ONLY) are shaped by Julian Millichamp. Bradbury is slightly different shape but I love mine as it is. The pick up is magic and the timber I got the ping is sensational compared to some other big brand bats I have used. Have a hold in your hand and a swing of them and disregard the stickers on them. Then make your decision. I take it budget is not a factor when spending $500 odd Aus on a bat so have a good feel of them in a shop. |
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Posted: 27 March 2006 at 8:08am |
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I have 8 grains on my bat.
I am particular and told Paul to make sure there were no 4's in the serial number but give me as many 8's and 3's. somehow I got 8 grains. excellent. I do not have any resin wood in mine though but the willow is great and the balls rebound with a very lively feel. apparen'tly its in the pressing that give it the rebound character. |
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Posted: 27 March 2006 at 9:39am |
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Too bad I moved to NSW only 6 months ago. I was living in Perth then, but did not know about Middlepeg!! I might go to Canberra one day and check them out, or just order online with Middlepeg. Which one did you think felt better? The ping of both the bats? I think Bradbury are cheaper for the quality they provide. What do you think? I need more views on it please. I am thinking about getting 10/11 straight grains.
EDIT: What do you mean by "serial number" when you got to choose your bat? How much did yours cost you and where did you get it from. Edited by MrLee |
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Posted: 27 March 2006 at 11:00am |
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well, considering you're either getting a brad or laver. May i suggest
you considering a fusion. For about $420 Aus, you will prob be
able to get a 1st grade(with redwood) willow, all custom made to
your requiremnts. It is just a suggestion. I am like you, i need
a new bat and am considering all these brands.
Laver is a great brand, and i have heard all but good things about them. There bats are made by one of the ebst podshavers in the world, james laver. He will make any bat to your specs. I agree, that laver bats are overly priced and so you will have to decide on what you want; extra price doesnt always equals better bat. Bradbury, are a quality brand made by podshaver paul bradbury. THey have been used by many test and current players. Seeing that you also live in Aus(like me), the only place in which you purcahse this bat is either on middlepeg, or 5 star plus. Let me warn, you to be wary of middlepeg, because i ahve heard that they send out old models to current users. The negative things about bradbury, is that it is a mass-produced bat and is practically no different than a bat purchased off the shelf. Remember, this bat is not custom-made and you are not always certain to get a 'good' bat. From this, i dunno who to pick, but consider fusion. I know fusion are new, but they have many good things about them. But still, fusion are new and it is probably a risk getting a bat from them. But without a doubt they do make good bats. |
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henjam
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Posted: 27 March 2006 at 2:02pm |
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yer you have summed up all the brands very well groovydude, although i wouldn't say a private bin is to overpriced, especially at the moment, if you purchase a private bin before april 15th you get free knocking in worth £30 and your name goes into a prize draw to win a signature bat package worth £700(i admit that is overpriced, but very exclusive!) aswell as free shipping and a full length bat cover. Also if you are in that prize draw i reckon you would have a good chance of winning, as laver&wood i think only make 3 bats per day from monday to friday (that may not be completely correct) and i reckon 1/3 bats made are private bin's, so there won't b many names in the prize draw to win that bat!
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Posted: 27 March 2006 at 7:46pm |
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Im not sure why evry1 thinks that all Bradburys are mass produced, you can buy the sterling shape if u want, but u can have ur bat completely custom made by Paul Bradbury if u desire. (see middlepeg.com) |
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Posted: 27 March 2006 at 8:25pm |
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yer i enquired about that, the only problem was that a custom made brad costs £250! and thats withough postage and knocking in.
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Posted: 27 March 2006 at 10:44pm |
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Every Bradbury has a serial number stamped into the shoulder. My friend who bought his Sterling about 7 years ago is number 750. I have a sovereign number 3655. Duncan Fearnley used to do this and they MAY still do the serial number thing.
Yes its true you can buy a bradbury off the shelf like any bat i.e. a stock model, however when I purchased mine I was able to specify what I liked. I had a look at 5 Star and then specced thicker edges in the meat. Middlepeg do have bats in stock as well as the ability to ask the batmakers Paul and Sally Bradbury and James Laver to custom make one as well. The most important thing is that you are getting a HAND MADE bat. Where the podshaver can make a bat with a good balance and pick up etc. When spending this sort of money some of the bats fromt eh big manufacturers are also hand made. Stuart Kranzbuhler from Gray Nic in the melb factory hand makes them. There are not many podshavers in NSW that I know of. I know of one but he gets his willow from the Gray Nic/County (yes they are the one company now as wel as grays hockey and steeden footballs). There is a bloke in melbourne as wel Lachlan Fisher (or Fischer) that has his own workshop as well. |
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Posted: 28 March 2006 at 5:27am |
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Well, mabye I should go back to Laver and Wood then. I will get a Laver and Wood, but they said I will only get 7 straight grains on a Private Bin!! I think your has 12 Henjam? I would want at least a minimum of 10 straight grains on any bat. If they can match or better this for my Private Bin I will buy that, otherwise I will order a Bradbury Sterling, that is customised for also a slightly lower middle for a predominant driver like me.
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Posted: 28 March 2006 at 7:55am |
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since you live in aus, the privat bin is 495. If you include knocking
in its 560. Now spending over 500 for a bat, is pretty
rediculous,UNLESS you are a descent player. There is no need to
spend in excess of 500 for a good bat. Let me repeat, there is no need
to spend in excess of 500 to get a good bat. Bradbury are a good bat,
fusion are good bats as well and laver are good bats. You want a bat
that will fit your criteria and needs, if they don't offer 11 grains,
then don't buy thier bats. don't be pressured into getting a bat, you
don't want.
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Posted: 28 March 2006 at 2:32pm |
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na groovy dude i think you are to concernedwith grains,and the amount of grains is a very minor part of the bat, private bin has free knocking in at the mo as i have said plus being entered into a prize draw, so the price between all the bats is very marginal, especially as shipping is free on all lavers.yer private bin is MINIMUM 7 grains,you can get more, mine has 12, my mate has a 7 grains one and there is no differnce in performance, 7 grains are minimum on fusions and bradburys aswell, i certainly would prefer the performance my bat over the no.of grains, i think its a ridiculous comment to say if they don't offer 11 grains, don't buy their bats, a 7 grain piece of willow can be as good ifnot better than a 12 grain, and only the best willow goes into the private bin catogory.
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