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    Posted: 30 December 2005 at 10:07am

Great fast bowlers have always dominated the cricket with Carrabian having most of big names to its credit. This forum is meant to find out the fast bowler (existing or retired) having the greatest variety in his bowling. No names are suggested from my side, but your prestigeous comments would be of great help for me in finding it out............So what are you waiting for please go ahead.

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malcom marshall,m.holding,courtney ambrose are some great jamacan quicks 

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Which one of them did have the greatest variety in bowling? My question is not limited to Carribean only.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote ANIL KUMBLE Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 December 2005 at 10:23am
fred spofforth i think thats how you spell it he tore through the english in the 1884-1885 ashes im pretty sure that was the season and wg.grace is one of the greatest batsmen ever alongside bradman and some other legends including lara and tendaulker
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Post Options Post Options   Quote ANIL KUMBLE Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 December 2005 at 10:26am
okay then probably west indies then australia second if you said spin that would obviously be india and a legend from that team still plays look at my username thats right anil kumble and harbarjn singh when he retires he will take 700 test wickets
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Dennis Lilli was also a great speedster. Leg spinn bowling was taken to its height by the great Abdul Qadir, he was the pioneer, i guess, with most famous gugly. Off course Anil Kumble is a very good bowler, but Murrali Dharran and Shane are also on top in todays cricket. When talking about fast bowler, i think Wasim Akram did have the greatest variety, with all the six bowls different in an over. May be there is someone else in history, but as far as i know there is no match of Wasim as regard the variation and variety. He was a shoulder bowler with least stress on the back, thats why he lasted long.

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do you think any current bowler will be as good as him i reckon irfan khan pathan is going to be the next wasim akram

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Wasim Akram, Dennis Lillee, Malcolm Marshall, Curtley Ambrose, Courtney Walsh, Waqar Younis.

To answer your question ANIL KUMBLE, yes, I certianly think htat IK Pathan could become a Wasim Akram.
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okey dokey then i shall be lookin forward to more success for the indian team
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Shoaib will trouble India a lot this time around because he has really mastered the slower ball and his attitude is also great.
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naved ul-hasan has got a bit of reverse swing happening in the vb series he came in as a sub for aktar and troubled the jamacans and aussies with is in swinging reverse swinging yorkers
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yea, Naveed-Ul-Hasan can bowl reverse swinging yorkers almost at will.
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Irfan is certainly a far improved bowler, but i do not think he will become Wasim Akram. He lacks Wasim's pace, variety and attack. Pathan is a very good bowler, no doubt, but Wasim is a legend.
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Naveed goood but certainlly he does not possess as much variety as Wasim. He is also a late entry in the cricket, i think.
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Yea, a pretty late entry into cricket.

Rana will never be like Wasim. Wasim could do any kind of swing at will. He could bowl awesome reverse swinging yorkers, or 'toe-crushers'. He had good control over line and length and he had good pace.
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Wasim was a shoulder bowler. He probably had the greatest variety in his bowling with all six bowls different in an over. At least i have never seen anyother bowler with so much variety. And one more thing, Wasim was a Diabetic.

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Wasim Akram, Has been one of the kind, the bowler with most variety, highest wickets agregate and excellent bowler for both forms of cricket, you may have accurate bowlers , you may have aggressive bowlers, swing, seem, reverse swing, good slow ball bowlers, but he was one COMPLETE BOWLER.
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A great fighter too, successfull career despite having diabetese.

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I think Imran khan was the best bowler, because he named the reverse swing bowling though sarfraz nawaz first did the reverse swing but imran give the right exploitation to it.

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We are talking of versatility. I mean more vaiation in bowling, speed, variety etc.

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There have been great bowlers, but only complete bowler is Wasim, most versitile, most reliable on any sort of wickets, only one of his class these days is fredie!
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Irfan pathan has the most potential, and I believe if he continues his form, in another year's time he'll be a great bowler.
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Rana Naved Ul-Hasan i feel bowls too slow, only military medium pace. So at his pace he should be getting good control or he'll be kicked off team. Wasim is in a class of his own when it comes to Paki quik bowlers. Wasim is brilliant, Bouncers, yorkers, reverse swing, some convential swing, sharp pace, plus the variety of being left handed. Also a handy batsman too, few 100's, incl. 257* aginst Zim (not a gr8 op-postion, but still.) Clean hitter of the ball, Sixes were someting he could do.

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Rana is not too slow. I have seen deliveries from him that were at 142 kph, and I don't think that's medium pace. Wasim use to bowl at 135-140 kph, and he was called a fast bowler so Rana is also a fast bowler.

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Malcolm Marshall was the most adaptable bowler I have ever seen. Although he was express pace when he wanted to be he was a master at summing up the wicket and conditions and bowling appropriately, including bowling medium paced cutters to great effect on the subcontinent.
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Yup. Malcolm Marshall was a complete fast bowler.
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Windies speedsters are normally know for their extra heights. They deliver the ball from a greater height and its really hard for the batsmen to play the ball coming on the rise from good length. But i just dont understand, how Malcom was able to terrify the batsmen despite having a medium (rather small) height. He was terrific. I remember that during Windies tour to Pakistan, he just caused severe injuries to half of the Pakistani team. with his sheer pace. He was so cool to watch.
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And Wasim was much more faster earlier in his career. In the middle and towards the end of his career, he just made some adjustment to his run up and speed, becoz he had devveloped much of the variety in his bowlig that he was not much dependent on his speed.
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Malcom Marshal was a great bowler, accurate, speedy, actually he was the second bowler after thomson who could rise a ball pitched at a batsmen's feetoot,really really fast.
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Windies speedsters are normally know for their extra heights. They deliver the ball from a greater height and its really hard for the batsmen to play the ball coming on the rise from good length. But i just dont understand, how Malcom was able to terrify the batsmen despite having a medium (rather small) height. He was terrific. I remember that during Windies tour to Pakistan, he just caused severe injuries to half of the Pakistani team. with his sheer pace. He was so cool to watch.


I think because Marshall was shorter the ball skidded through and surprised the batsmen - he was also unrelentingly accurate with his bouncers which would explain why he hit so many people
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