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    Posted: 01 July 2012 at 6:31am
The first two T20's in the USA, The WI have started off their campaign with good 56 run win in the first T0, Pollard and gayle demonstrating the strength of this West Indian batting unit when it clicks, This is a series between two very evenly matched teams, However, I'd expect WI to win the LOI's while NZL can possibly do better in test matches given the return of players like Vettori and McCullum.

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another superb knock from the winless windies, good all-round knocks from the boys 
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I've posted my thoughts on the current Aussie line up and pretty unflattering they were, but the censors won't let me post my opinion of the New Zealand attack - they bowl like women!
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Originally posted by Sledger

I've posted my thoughts on the current Aussie line up and pretty unflattering they were, but the censors won't let me post my opinion of the New Zealand attack - they bowl like women!


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I agree with sledge there but I think the problem is more with their batting than bowling, Bracewell and Mills are good bowlers and they can be joined by Vettori, Bolt and a few others like Southee to form a pretty good line up.

Batting is a huge cause of concern and even once McCullum and Ryder return they will continue to struggle, forget Ross Taylor, the man is injured 350 days in an year, the 15 days he plays are during the IPL... all this despite being a batsmen.

Happy for the WI though, much needed series win for the windies, they should go on to win the ODI's as well, may be 4-1, and good to see BFM back on our forums.
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This series has me fuming, as NZ Cricket don't seem to have taken it seriously at all.  The team comes from our winter, with no warm up games, no team camp and rest players who don't need / nor want to be rested.  The NZC hasn't shown respect to the West Indies or their own fans.  

NZ's only hope is to get the Windies openers out cheaply and because the rest of the team hasn't had a chance to face us, they might be low on batting practice... even that is wishful thinking. 

Heads should roll over over this series.  NZ Cricket hasn't been this low in about 15 years. 
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I do agree with crabs, although the Post-Fleming era hasn't been as good for New Zealand they haven't really been this bad in a long time. Again I think NZL players just don't seem to be motivated enough for whatever reasons, remember this is a WC Semifinalist side and have achieved much more success than WI in the recent past, so a battering at the hands of the Windies is indeed a cause of concern for them.

Gayle and Samuels hammering hundreds yesterday, forget what happened in English conditions, this team will be very very dangerous in these conditions and I just don't know who can stop them from winning the WT20 later this year, they will be crushing their opponents with this heavy hitting batting line up.
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Gayle and Samuels must think Christmas has come early - Crabs is right , the visitors have had no preparation and have treated the Windies without respect . They're getting hammered and they deserve it.
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NZL finally hit back with a win, a very good all round performance by the kiwis who keep the series alive after losing both the T20's and the first two ODI's.

2-1 to WI then with 2 to go, although the Windies are still firm favorites to wrap up the series, the Kiwis will be strengthened by the addition of Brendon McCullum for the last two ODI's!!!
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nice game going on here, firstly the Windies were in all sorts of trouble losing 4 early wickets and then a 5th with just over 100 on board, some outstanding hitting later on saw them reach 264 all out.

NZL off to a flier but lost 2 wickets, McCullum also gone, but Ross Taylor is still there... This should be an interesting contest.
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A rare series win for West Indies against a major cricketing nation, well done to the Windies boys, Ross Taylor hitting a century but got little support from others as NZL fall short by 24 runs.

Really good to see WI win though... one last ODI remaining before the tests, it should be a good one too.
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4-1 to the WI, and they go well clear of NZL in the ICC Rankings finally onto the 7th spot. NZL need "Dan The Man" quite desperately.
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Andre Russell is a gem of a lower order batsman. He's a half ah Adam Gilchrist.  England, India, Australia, NZ have all feel the wrath of his lower order batting.  He turns dead games back into favour of West Indies.

Anyhow, I was in Barbados while these games were playing, so couldn't post much. I also visited kensington Oval, and my gosh, its such a magnificent outfield.  Its amazing how they get the pitch to play so fast and bouncy. I was out by the square, and the unprepared pitch looked like a minefield.  Its surprisingly it comes together so well with water and rolling.
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I was thinking spinny posts all the time when his team is not doing great and now that they have started winning, he's disappeared.

This was expected to be a close contest but WI have just run away with things, NZL have only managed a solitary win so far, and would need their star players to click in the test matches, this has been quite a prolonged bad period for NZL ever since the end of the WC, and even before that they weren't doing that well... what's more they run into India in India in their next assignment.
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I can't see NZ winning the test matches either.  They absolutely have no clue against Sunil Narine.
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This starts off tomorrow, Gayle back in whites for WI... the test matches are expected to be a better contest with Vettori back in the squad for NZL. Just a 2 match series this which is disappointing to see.

I agree though that WI are favorites and shouldwin their first test series against a major test playing opponent since quite some time.
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Quite an interesting game going on here, NZL 281/7, have actually lost their way after a terrific start. WI, if they can bat well have a great chance here.
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This thread deserves better response, Gayle and Powell murdering the kiwis, however, Kiwis finally have got rid of both of them, WI though in complete dominance.

This is a scary out fit, not so much in tests still because Powell, Fudadin, Deonarine are still unproven, but if Gayle can murder the bowlers like this, God this is a very very scary thought ... Smith, Samuels, Pollard, Dwayne Bravo, Sammy... 500 in ODI's might be on!
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This is first time in 13 years that each West Indies opener has hit century in a Test innings. Last such incident was also against New Zealand at Hamilton 1999, when Adrian Griffith and Sherwin Campbell scored centuries. Overall, this is 8th time that both the West Indies openers have reach three figures
 
New Zealand fought back this session but West Indies have built up a healthy lead. Gayle and Powell led the way but Fudadin and Deonarine hit half-centuries to extend their team's lead. The visitors did certainly limit the damage but West Indies are still on top. The track is taking some turn, but not much in it for the seamers unless they're bowling with a new, hard ball
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This is now the highest WI opening partnership in more than ten years (passing 172 between Gayle and Hinds vs. India in Kolkata 30 Oct 2002). Next up: Gayle and Ganga 214 vs. Zimbabwe at Bulawayo 19 Jul 2001. It's already the largest WI opening partnership in a home Test since 1990! (Greenidge and Haynes 298 vs. England at St. John's).

looking at West Indies cricket as a neutral, I think it very unlikely it will ever reach the heights of 1975-1990 (very few teams have ever done so). But I do detect some reasons to think it's on the up. They competed against England, apart from a few silly sessions. A win in the World T20 (far from impossible) would do WI cricket the world of good.

Congratulations to Kieron Powell. This caps off a great period of improvement for him.
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Good information that alpesh. and yes, a win in the WT20 is very much possible for this West Indian side, they'll infact be the side to beat I reckon.

NZL do fight back, no luck for Vettori but others chipped in, Wagner is very animated all the time, something I love to see in fast bowlers, NZL bowling isn't that bad but the conditions and WI power hitting have been the difference.
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Last Time in April 1996, WI won a Test Match vs NZ. Only Chanderpaul is playing in this Test from that Test. Remaining All 21 Players retired, even Umpire Steve Buckner also retired

 
It is not just Roach, Narine and Gayle who give the Windies hope for the future. Fudadin, Deonarine and Powell have all batted well, so the Windies have not needed to rely on Chanderpaul and Samuels to dig them out of a hole. Delorn Johnson is also a real prospect. Tall, left arm and fast. Just the sort of bowler that has been missing from the attack for too long.
 
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Delorn Johnson is not that fast, might clock 88 mph at most, but he as excellent control and swings the ball and standing at 6 ft 5" I think.  Best of all, he's from my homeland he he.  Practically impossible to drive him because of his height. 
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Cry  5 coaches in 4 years or something crazy has destroyed this team. NZ cricket needs top get there front office in shape before anything will change.

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Very good effort by the windies, I'm actually surprised that they have beaten NZL for the first time in 16 years! Nonetheless a sweet win for the WI.

NZL do have serious problems no doubt, right now they are playing full strength except may be Jesse Ryder, they need to get their act together very quickly. They have good player, they showed that in their win against AUS last year, they are capable of playing better cricket.
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NZ will find it harder in Jamaica, pitch will help Narine a lot more than it did in Antigua.  Depends on the amount of grass cover, will dictate how much it helps the pacers, but as far as recent times go, test matches has saw both pacers and spinners dominating.
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West Indies continue to improve and are showing real fighting spirit. Roach blew the New Zealanders away , but all in all , it was a fine team effort. Chris Gayle seems to have been welcomed back with open arms - long may this resurgence continue.   As for New Zealand - they're as bad as they were in 1955 !
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Majestic return for Gayle, who should have been awarded the man of the match prize. A big 150 and a quick fire half century on return is more than anyone could have asked for from him! With Roach finally starting to show what he's really capable of and Narine being the latest mystery spinner to be introduced to the test stage, the only way for the Windies to lose here is if they do something wrong - they are their biggest worst enemy with their lack of inconsistency.
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Chris Gayle seems to have been welcomed back with open arms - long may this resurgence continue.   As for New Zealand - they're as bad as they were in 1955 !


Yes without any doubt he is been welcome by one and all but the real game will start once IPL gets near than i would love to see which side Gayle prefer IPL or Windies that will show his true colors.
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Mikey, anyone is expected to make a century once you're playing in Antigua, although this is not the ARG pitch that lara scored at will on.  Narine made a more herculean effort, and Roach's last day spell is why a result ended up.  Kemar Roach is the leading wicket taker for the year, and that too while playing against Australia and England.  Think he has 40+ wkts at an average of 21.  Really amazing stuff.  Getting the ball to seam around now, too good at 88+ MPH.
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