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    Posted: 16 July 2007 at 10:05am
Originally posted by W.G.

What was remarkable about the first Australian team to tour England?


Were they a team of aborigines?
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they had to travel on boat but in the return when england went to australia charles di£kens wouldnt go because he got seasick
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Originally posted by W.G.

What was remarkable about the first Australian team to tour England?
 
Is it something to do with the fact they didn't have enough players because some memebers of the team didn't want to make the long boat journey across? Big%20smile

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Originally posted by W.G.

Go on then, why is cricket called cricket?
 
There was a sport played in 1590 in Guildford called kreckett. It could have also derived from the Flemish krick (stick) or the French criquet (a kind of club). Big%20smile

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Originally posted by W.G.

Some sports take the Ronseal (does what is says on the tin) approach with their names.  Football = obvious.  Others have some deep sense of tradition defining the name of the sport.  Rugby = school where game first played.  For some the origin of the name of the sport is more obscure.  Go on then, why is cricket called cricket?


After England developed the game it was addapted by the French who called it Criquet. (Criquet is played with a stool which is my reason for the stump question).
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Originally posted by W.G.

What was remarkable about the first Australian team to tour England?
Were they a team of aborigines?
Indeed they were JP - a proper Australian team.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote W.G. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 July 2007 at 2:10pm
Originally posted by W.G.

Go on then, why is cricket called cricket?
Personally I prefer the explanation that the game began among shepherds hitting a stone or a ball of wool with their crooks (from the Anglo Saxon 'cricce', a crooked staff) and, at the same time, defending the wicket (gate) into the sheep-fold.  This ties together nicely what we know about the original shape of the bat and the notion of the wicket (or gate).
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Originally posted by W.G.

What does a lady's dress have to do with the development of roundarm bowling and, therefore, the modern overarm technique?
at a guess, does it have to do with a lady not being able to bowl underarm as her hand was getting caught up in the bell shaped skirt style of yore, hence adapting her style?
Not just any lady!  In the very early 1800s John Willes became the first bowler to use a "round-arm" technique after practising with his sister Christina, who had developed the technique as she was unable to bowl underarm due to her wide dress impeding her delivery of the ball.
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Why is the Nursery End at Lord's so called?
In 1887 the MCC purchased three and a half acres of Henderson's Nursery to further develop Thomas Lord's ground.  Despite popular opinion this is the reason for the name of that end of the ground, not the smaller practice/youth playing area behind it.
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Does anyone know which two teams competed in the first ever international cricket match?
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Originally posted by W.G.

Does anyone know which two teams competed in the first ever international cricket match?
 
England and France?

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Canada and USA
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Yea, people here are shocked when I tell them that.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote W.G. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 July 2007 at 9:10pm
JP's on form, I wonder if he knows what was unusual about the circumstances that launched one day international cricket?
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I think I do. It wasn't meant to be one-day match, it was a test match between England and Australia (Melbourne?) which either finished early or was ended early due to bad weather.

To provide some entertainment for the crowd, the two teams decided to play a 60-odd over game, one innings a side.

Something along those lines, anyway.
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How unlucky can you be..............

Anyone know who was the first test batsman to be dismissed on debut for 99?
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Two test cricketers have also played Davis Cup tennis, but who were they?
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How did it come to pass that Ramiz Raja was run out whilst sitting in the pavilion when Pakistan played England in a ODI in Perth January 1987?
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Wilfred Rhodes is the only Englishman to have achieved this feat in international cricket, the only other test player in the world to have done it is Vinoo Mankad of India - what feat?
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Prabir Sen of India stands alone as the only 'keeper of his generation to achieve the 'unachievable' .......... what did he do?


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Not a question, but a fantastic piece of trivia ............. 

In a women's league match in Denmark the new batswoman was several months pregnant. She tired while batting and asked permission for a runner - the umpire declined on the grounds that the incapacity had not occurred during the course of the match!

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Not a question, but a fantastic piece of trivia ............. 

In a women's league match in Denmark the new batswoman was several months pregnant. She tired while batting and asked permission for a runner - the umpire declined on the grounds that the incapacity had not occurred during the course of the match!

I thought Michael Clarke was allowed to bat with a runner in the 2005 Ashes series with back spasms, which occured before the game and resulted in him being tucked up in bed for the first two days of the game.
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Originally posted by W.G.

Originally posted by Clobber

Originally posted by W.G.

What does a lady's dress have to do with the development of roundarm bowling and, therefore, the modern overarm technique?
at a guess, does it have to do with a lady not being able to bowl underarm as her hand was getting caught up in the bell shaped skirt style of yore, hence adapting her style?
Not just any lady!  In the very early 1800s John Willes became the first bowler to use a "round-arm" technique after practising with his sister Christina, who had developed the technique as she was unable to bowl underarm due to her wide dress impeding her delivery of the ball.


As an addendum to this, I happened purely by chance to come across an article this morning on another subject entirely, but which included the following passage -


In the 19th century, when cricketers still bowled underarm, Christina Willes supposedly set the game on the path to its now standard overarm style. Playing with her brother John (who represented Kent) in their garden in the early 1800s, she is said to have pioneered roundarm bowling - because her lead-weighted, hooped skirt prevented her from bowling underarm. Not true: as any fan of period costume drama knows, women of that era didn't wear hoops. Surrey player Tom Walker invented roundarm bowling in the 1790s when he discovered it offered greater pace and variation.

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Prabir Sen of India stands alone as the only 'keeper of his generation to achieve the 'unachievable' .......... what did he do?


I was thinking 10 or even 20 dismissals in a match but after curiousity got the better of me I see it was something else entirely - not so much quantity as quality!
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Made ten stumpings in an innings?
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Wilfred Rhodes is the only Englishman to have achieved this feat in international cricket, the only other test player in the world to have done it is Vinoo Mankad of India - what feat?


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yeah sledgers right he batted in every position from one to eleven
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Originally posted by Sledger

Originally posted by W.G.

Wilfred Rhodes is the only Englishman to have achieved this feat in international cricket, the only other test player in the world to have done it is Vinoo Mankad of India - what feat?


 Bat in every position?
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 A guess really WG . But then Rhodes played for so long he almost had to have batted in all 11 positions!
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