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    Posted: 18 July 2007 at 10:17am
Originally posted by Clobber

In the 19th century, when cricketers still bowled underarm, Christina Willes supposedly set the game on the path to its now standard overarm style. Playing with her brother John (who represented Kent) in their garden in the early 1800s, she is said to have pioneered roundarm bowling - because her lead-weighted, hooped skirt prevented her from bowling underarm. Not true: as any fan of period costume drama knows, women of that era didn't wear hoops. Surrey player Tom Walker invented roundarm bowling in the 1790s when he discovered it offered greater pace and variation.
The only problem with this Clobs is the fact that Walker was never allowed to bowl roundarm, being repeatedly no-balled (and called for chucking, where have we heard that before).  Walker indeed pioneered roundarm in practice, but Willes was the firs to use it unopposed in competitive cricket, and he went to the grave claiming he fashioned it on the bowling of his sister.
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Originally posted by W.G.

Prabir Sen of India stands alone as the only 'keeper of his generation to achieve the 'unachievable' .......... what did he do?


I think he might have stumped Bradman.

Originally posted by W.G.

Two test cricketers have also played Davis Cup tennis, but who were they?


Cotar Ramaswami is one.

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Cleared the off topic stuff WG !  Tough posers you've given us and without researching I can't begin to answer them!  I'd rather wrack my brain and come up with an answer than go through cricket bumph - how about some lil clues! Wink
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David Cup + cricket -- oooooh..
 
I'm guessing British, Aussie or South African... probably the latter - RSA is known for producing multi-talented sportsmen.

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Originally posted by MP12

Originally posted by W.G.

Prabir Sen of India stands alone as the only 'keeper of his generation to achieve the 'unachievable' .......... what did he do?


I think he might have stumped Bradman.
Yup, Prabir Sen was, indeed, the only keeper to stump the Don in international cricket.
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Originally posted by MP12

Originally posted by W.G.

Two test cricketers have also played Davis Cup tennis, but who were they?


Cotar Ramaswami is one.

Well done MP, a little clue - the other would make a better fist keeping against the current WI attack if he used a racquet!
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How did it come to pass that Ramiz Raja was run out whilst sitting in the pavilion when Pakistan played England in a ODI in Perth January 1987?
Your clue .......... it involves a no-ball
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  Was Raja being treated for an injury and just left his runner at the nonstriker's end.  The law says that both runner and injured bat must be in their ground to avoid a runout and maybe there was a mix up between striker and runner resulting in the decision.
         The problem with this answer is I'm unsure if a runner is allowed to stay on the pitch without the injured player - I certainly haven't ever seen that anyway.
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No Sledge, Raja walked when he was caught off a no-ball.  He got back to the pavilion before realising and sat amazed as he was 'run out' because the bails had subsequently been removed by an English fielder.
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No idea, William Farrer? Before my time but I have read he played a bit of tennis?
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No, 'twas the little known Ralph Legall, west Indian 'keeper in the 50s.
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Sidebottom reminds me of a trivial point ......... who holds the record for the longest time between test match appearances?
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One player stands out - having taken four in 4 (four wickets in four balls) on debut in English domestic cricket ........... I know who it was, do you?
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The Surrey off spinner Pat Pocock !!  

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'twas indeed Pocock, though Shaun Pollock took four wickets in four balls on his first appearance for Warwickshire - in a limited-overs (B&H Cup) game v Leicestershire at Birmingham in 1996.
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Originally posted by W.G.

Sidebottom reminds me of a trivial point ......... who holds the record for the longest time between test match appearances?
 
Is this shiv chanderpaul?
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Originally posted by W.G.

Sidebottom reminds me of a trivial point ......... who holds the record for the longest time between test match appearances?


Martin Bicknell?

I don't think it is, but he's got to be one of the contenders.
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I think that one is John Traicos - the gap being something like 22 years, and made all the more unusual in than the Test appearances were for different countries!

Edited by Clobber - 20 July 2007 at 3:41pm
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Of course it was!

Maybe Bicknell holds the record for England?

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oh and theres me thinkin irs chanderpaul , but it still might be yet
 
 
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Originally posted by Clobber

I think that one is John Traicos - the gap being something like 22 years, and made all the more unusual in than the Test appearances were for different countries!
No flies on Clobs, and Traicos was one of the few Egyptians to play test cricket ......... anyone know any more?
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Cleopatrick Patterson?
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Cleopatrick Patterson?
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Originally posted by W.G.

Originally posted by Clobber

I think that one is John Traicos - the gap being something like 22 years, and made all the more unusual in than the Test appearances were for different countries!
No flies on Clobs, and Traicos was one of the few Egyptians to play test cricket ......... anyone know any more?
 
No others I am afraid. He is just like Miniwarney actually, Greek-Egyptian.

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wow you just can't help yourself can you
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Yup, I give up with the thread Clobs, all the time this twonk is going to defecate on it.
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Get a life. Twit.

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By your name you claim to love cricket but then you sit there posting petty crap when some cricket questions are being posed. Why?
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Originally posted by W.G.

Yup, I give up with the thread Clobs, all the time this twonk is going to defecate on it.


no don't do that.

I really like this thread and am pretty confident it will last longer than he does.
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I agree with Clobber, this is a great thread. Don't give up on it.
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