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    Posted: 15 June 2006 at 7:49pm

Hello people. During the start of the season I was bowling fantastic. We play 20 over games and each bowler can bowl 4 overs. I waz only concedding 7 runz per 4 overs and also getting 2 to 4 wickets per game. But suddenly I have come up against batsmen in the last two games that have hit me for 6. On monday I got 0-20 off 4 overs. And yesterday I got hit for 0-16 off 4 overs. This makes me wonder if I can achieve a long carear with off spin. Can anybody help me with ways to combat attacking batsmen and take more wickets?

 

 
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what kind of sixes were they hitting? i.e. slog type shots, coming down the wicket? but as a general rule i would suggest change flight and speed, maybe try learn another type of ball to bowl!!
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 Variation is always useful, just take a look at Murali's doosra!

 But if you keep putting in the hard work, the wickets should come easily enough.
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Well one waz a leg side shot where he sort of opened himself up and hit through the line. The other was a flat six straight. The thing is that I can only bowl the doosra so that it lands outside off stick and it doesnt come back in far enough. No matter how hard I try it keeps straying outside the line of off stump. Thats how he hit me for 6. It was the attemptd doosra when he opened himself up and hit me. Im afraid to so it again in case i get hit again.
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 You should keep practising it, if you don't you won't improve!

 Sounds like you're a decent bowler, figures of 0-20 off 4 overs for a spinner ina  20 over game isn't actually that bad!
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The thing is Im scared coff trying it in a match because before I started bowling the doosra I was getting figures of 2-7. And now Im scared off bowling variations because I dont want to cost myself and the team runs.
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if you practise hard enough that you always know where you going to put your stock ball, but you also need to practise hard enougn on the variation, so that in a match, you can try it, but if its a long hop or something and gets launched, then you can go stragiht back to the stock ball, and with many batsman, if they hit a ball for six, they want to hit the next one for six aswell! and you could be in for another wicket
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I was bowling a good line after he hit me and then he just kept driving me to long off for 1. That made me bring him back up to mid off and he went over the top and hit me for 4. What should I do in them circumstances?
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1st of all why the hell are you worried about going for 5 an over?

If your team can't chase 100 in a twenty over game then you've got problems.  When a batsman goes after you as a spinner (or as any bowler) theres not a lot you can do, just keep bowling line and length and sooner or later he'll miss one.  As for hitting over the top, its very simple, orthadox mid-off and a straight (Perhaps slightly to the off side)
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leezy,

if a batsman goes after you, and you want to keep bowling line and length, you go right ahead mate cuase i hope its me that gest to face that when i decide to go after you!

as a spinner if a batsman goes after you you have to change where you pitch it, speed, flight etc, cuase bowling the same ball will produce the same result unless the batsman messes up! but if you change all the above, e.g. a wide one when he charges you! or you might drag one down when bowling the quicker one, give him a long hop and hit it straight in the air!

 
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You just have to make sure the batsman is never comfortable enough to go for 6. This will also depend on your pace bowling attack, they need to rough the batsman up.

Finally if you play retire at 30 (like i do) then you can always wait for him to go out, though that is very risky as an equally good or better batsman can replace him.
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Well I agree with crick because usually thats what I do. But at i play at the under 17s level so we retire at 50. Our pace attack has 3 main bowlers. 1 is a bowler who haz pace and gets swing and puts it usually right up there. 1 is a pace bowler who gets large amounts of swing and sometimes gets it in thw wrong places and the other is a lightening quick bowler who bowles bouncers, yorkers and slower balls. Then again all the batsmen I play against are 3 years older than me as im 15 and play in the under 187z. Is anybody here from the Bolton Assocciation?
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Wow. You missed the 28 page topic on spin. How?
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