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Top Cat 
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 Topic: Overseas playersPosted: 03 August 2006 at 12:52pm |
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News that Counties will only be allowed 1 overseas player next year what are your takes on this? I am against it |
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DRAVID FAN
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Posted: 03 August 2006 at 4:16pm |
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Me too. That won't be fair. One player is too little. But why are the doing it.
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Posted: 03 August 2006 at 4:22pm |
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The England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) announced that counties will only be able to field one overseas player from the 2008 season.
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Posted: 03 August 2006 at 4:35pm |
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i think 2 players is too much, becuase then the overseas players dont have as much responsibility, and the county then has extra money to spend on youth systems, and the one overseas player then has more responsbility with regard to helping bring up younger players
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Posted: 03 August 2006 at 4:40pm |
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Yes,good thinking,I just happened to spot your personal message thing
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DRAVID FAN
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Posted: 03 August 2006 at 4:40pm |
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Yup. Maybe they want to bring in more youngsters. Maybe they want new youngsters so that the England ODI team can improve. Good thinking by them. Atleast overseas players especially Indians will get more rest instead of immidiately going in for County.
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Posted: 04 August 2006 at 9:53am |
You've forgotten about Kolpaks!! No legislation can be implemented to stop them playing in England , so every side will still be full of overseas players. |
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Posted: 04 August 2006 at 10:02am |
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Yes I agree sledger. It's like the Warwickshire thing with Paul Harris. They just called him in as a kolpak. You can just easily say to a player like a young player from that country. "Why don't you join us on a kolpak?". It could help the youth system and it could not. Michael Holding at Derbyshire helped Devon Malcolm how to bowl fast and he was a test player for England! So it shows that class overseas players can help other players in your squad.
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Posted: 04 August 2006 at 10:37am |
It's a double edged sword Hawksy. No doubt that a class act in your side brings on your players , helps them become better. Offsetting that is that youngsters can't break into the side - something that would happen if the foreigners weren't there. On balance I think the overseas guys are good for English cricket. Gone are the days when they came over , took the money and played poorly. Counties learnt from those days and seem to invite solid professionals nowadays. Just look at the results this season and you'll see match winning performances by all nationalities. The visitors have lifted the standard of county cricket and that's brought on our players. Ultimately the national team have reaped the benefit too. With the strengthening of the 1st class game , the step up to test level isn't as huge as in the bad old days. |
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Posted: 04 August 2006 at 11:02am |
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Yes the step up to test level isn't as big nowadays which means England can tinker with their side by adding a new player who is performing well in county and they won't find it much different to the first class game but it is still quite a step up.
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Posted: 05 August 2006 at 5:26pm |
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I think 2 out of 11 is hardly too much. But it's brilliant how cricket supports young talent whilst other sports like football seem to neglect homegrown players.
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Posted: 05 August 2006 at 8:21pm |
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I have to say one would be OK as most counties only have one really good overseas player anyway e.g. Warne at hampshire or Flower at essex who are both massive players and really help the county game without destroying it.
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TCA123
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Posted: 06 August 2006 at 6:58pm |
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1 or 2....hardly a difference.
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Posted: 06 August 2006 at 7:11pm |
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Overseas players have had a massive influence on county cricket, people actualy want to watch these stars, young english players learn alot from players like warne, macgrath, langer and ricki clarke has done wonders for surrey as he is very similar to Azhar mahmood. Andrew flintoff learnt alot from wasim akram. Overseas players do not porhibit young english players from playing, if they are good enough they would be able to make it into the side regardless of any overseas players! I think its bad for county circket to go this way! |
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Posted: 06 August 2006 at 7:14pm |
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I must say i'd prefer 2 because of the reasons you mentioned. Plus i want to see the world's best in England!
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Posted: 06 August 2006 at 7:18pm |
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Any young player would love the oppertunity to bowl against international players to test their ability, especially as Fletcher does not allow his top players to play county cricket when there is no international game. Like TCA mentioned you would want to go to the to watch these players!
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Posted: 06 August 2006 at 7:23pm |
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We all want to see Monty get the wicket of Nathan Astle and co for Northants! Monty = legend |
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Posted: 06 August 2006 at 7:45pm |
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Monty's figures for first class aren't really that good if I can remember. But it would be good to see England's best spinner getting a world class batsman out.
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Posted: 06 August 2006 at 7:46pm |
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how dare you question Monty! |
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Posted: 06 August 2006 at 7:50pm |
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hahaha!
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Posted: 06 August 2006 at 7:51pm |
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A bad thing about 2 overseas is that counties are losing money and aren't guaranteed that the player is going to try his best for the county. |
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Posted: 06 August 2006 at 8:02pm |
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I dont think many overseas players would play badly or not try their best! Though i must admit ganguly's attempts at County cricket have been a failure and a waste of money espclly for Lanchashire!
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Posted: 06 August 2006 at 8:05pm |
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Saurav Ganguly is playing well in One Day cricket this year for Northamptonshire. But yes he would be helping the county's mounting up bills somewhat.
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Posted: 06 August 2006 at 8:41pm |
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With the introduction of twenty20 counties have more money then i'm sure they've ever budgeted for. If they managed to pay overseas players before i'm pretty sure it's a hell of alot easier now. |
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Posted: 06 August 2006 at 9:29pm |
its stupid. the only good bits are that more english players will brought in and there will be alot of all rounders coming in |
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