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    Posted: 24 December 2010 at 5:57pm
I'll be surprised if NZL win any series except for the T20's because you can never predict what will happen in a T20I.
 
This surely is a very important series for both the teams and one other thing that may or should I say will impact the tour is the verdict on the three suspended players. Surely we have come to a stage where everyone is just waiting to hear the quantom of punishment, we all know what the verdict will be... so I think this will have a major impact on the series.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sam_ahmed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 December 2010 at 1:23pm
PAK lose again, it's becoming a bit of a habit now... they need to win at least a couple of series this tour, hopefully Test and ODI's, and if they can't even do that then they might as well volunteer to take a break from cricket.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote zuhair_abbasi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 December 2010 at 7:40am
Why is international cricket played on grounds as small as the one used for the first T20? it was a joke.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote flipper Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 December 2010 at 10:18pm
Originally posted by zuhair_abbasi

Why is international cricket played on grounds as small as the one used for the first T20? it was a joke.
What ground was it, capacity?
Remember we played Pakistan at Cardiff,Wales. Really poor support on both occasions. Embarrassing when you think it was our first 20/20 match after winning the world cup.Confused
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Clobber Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 December 2010 at 11:23pm
I am guessing zuhair is referring to the teeny boundaries rather than the capacity
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Post Options Post Options   Quote crabs Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 December 2010 at 12:55am
Shahid Afridi thought the ground was perfect for T20's, but probably too small for ODI's.



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Post Options Post Options   Quote zuhair_abbasi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 December 2010 at 5:29am
Right Clobs, the boundaries were too small, slip catches were taken at the edge of the circle.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote flipper Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 December 2010 at 12:59pm
See what you mean, not many run 3s then!
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NZL hammer Pakistan as expected - I am not surprised with the results at all. I see the same for the ODIs and tests as well.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Clobber Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 December 2010 at 1:44pm
you can see in that photo, one of the straight boundaries is only just outside the 30 yard circle!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sam_ahmed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 December 2010 at 5:24pm
A Shoaib Akhtar of the past would not have found enough place for a run up on that ground, may be he would have started off from the crowd.

Anyways, PAK lose again... I can't say much here, there is nothing much left in this team, almost all key players are sitting at home, the situation is very very difficult for this team. I'm still hoping for the best though.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote spin wizard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 December 2010 at 5:59pm
The straight boundaries were indeed small but i'm afraid there are hardly few big grounds in kiwiland.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sam_ahmed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 December 2010 at 5:22pm
PAK thrash NZL by 103 runs in the 3rd T20... Ahmed Shahzad looked really good while Razzaq has once again shwn why he will be Pakistan's most dangerous player in the world cup. remember apart from Shoaib and Asif, Razzaq also missed out of last WC because of a knee injury.

Happy that finally PAK have won, hopefully the test and ODI series will be won too.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote NZ_Fast Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 January 2011 at 6:30am
Not having Razzaq for the tests, ridiculous 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote zuhair_abbasi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 January 2011 at 8:00am
they think he is not good enough. But they also think others are. But they are the PCB.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sam_ahmed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 January 2011 at 4:59am
A very impressive showing by PAK so far, after bowling out NZL for 275, PAK are 210/4. A very fine knock so far by Asad Shafiq. He looks a good prospect because even against RSA he looked good. Mystery's prediction here was right.
 
Ever since Misbah ahs got captaincy he has taken it upon himself to get his team going. Another very fine innings here.
 
I was watching the game yesterday and I have to say NZL threw away their wickets, most of the well set players getting out to rash shots which is totally unacceptable at test level. NZL have a lot of work to do before the WC, at the moment they are going nowhere.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote joelza1990 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 January 2011 at 5:29am
Pityful display by NZ all out for 110 and will provide Umar and Hafeez with a nice little net session at the end of the day to conquer 19 measly runs. Chris Martin the only true resistance with a quick fire 7 including a boundary Tongue.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sam_ahmed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 January 2011 at 6:49am
congratulations to Pakistan on winning the first test by 10 wickets. sensational performance by the bowlers and it just goes to show the depth in this Pakistani team despite losing so many players. Mashallah. They have done well to draw the series against RSA too, hopefully, God willing, they will go on to win the series this time which will be their first series win since beating WI in 2006.

The bowlers and the batters all did their job pretty well, Abdur Rahman has been improving by every match and gets the MOM award, and a good point made by Misbah too that every one in the team can bat (right till Wahab at 11) which gives them that extra edge.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sledger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 January 2011 at 6:06am
Well done Pakistan , but the win has to be tempered with the fact that New Zealand batted like blindmen!  On current form NZ are the worst test side in the top tier and their one day side isn't much better.  
           I wouldn't be surprised if Cricket Australia are looking for a 3 test series straight after the world cup and calling their southern neighbors !
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Post Options Post Options   Quote zuhair_abbasi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 January 2011 at 5:33am
NZ might well be the worst side - but I wouldn't be too surprised if Pakistan collapse in the second test just as NZL did in the first. Pakistan are far from predictable. We have not won an overseas test series since 2002.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sledger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 January 2011 at 5:39am
It'd have to be a real turnaround mate - the 1st test was a thrashing.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote kahmad Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 January 2011 at 3:33pm
Pakistan did well in the field and won that match.
They would have been very competetive against all the big teams in the last year if they would have caught well. I think Pakistan played better against England (in England) comparing to Australia in the Ashes.
Misbah is doing a good job. He has that controlled aggression.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sam_ahmed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 January 2011 at 4:51pm
The most amazing thing about this all is that ever since the team has become weak (trio gone) the results have improved considerably.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sledger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 January 2011 at 5:01am
Originally posted by sam_ahmed

The most amazing thing about this all is that ever since the team has become weak (trio gone) the results have improved considerably.


Why does that surprise you Sam ?  For a team to perform well they must all pull in the same direction and Pakistan haven't done that for quite some time. 
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The results have not improved because of the trio's absence Sam. The drawn series in Abu Dhabi was more because of better application of the batsmen and batting friendly conditions where Steyn and company toiled in the desert heat. The NZL match cannot be compared to the England tour due to the very visible difference between the quality of the opponent.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote spin wizard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 January 2011 at 1:01pm
Zuhair, had Pakistan caught well (or didn't intentionally drop catches, who knows), they surely would have done a lot better in England!  Asif's bowling average in England should have been way better than it ended up. 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote zuhair_abbasi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 January 2011 at 1:10pm
If England's tour is a case in point - then Pakistani have been fixers for life because drop catches have been an old problem with our team - don't think dropping catches is intentional at all. They are just not good catchers in my view.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote spin wizard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 January 2011 at 1:28pm
Haha, well they need to learn to take them.  Poor Kaneria too, Akmal probably have his bowling average 3 points higher than it's suppose to be.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sam_ahmed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 January 2011 at 6:39pm
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The results have not improved because of the trio's absence Sam. The drawn series in Abu Dhabi was more because of better application of the batsmen and batting friendly conditions where Steyn and company toiled in the desert heat. The NZL match cannot be compared to the England tour due to the very visible difference between the quality of the opponent.


Agreed Zuhair, but I also agree with what Sledge has said, PAK seem to be playing more as a unit ever since the spot fixing scandal broke out and that is what I meant actually. The ODI series against RSA was an exceptional performance I'd say, 4 of the 5 games went right down to the wire. Even ODI's against ENG were lost 2-3... so all in all a good effort despite losing 3 of their best players.
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PAK's ODI team has been announced and considering the fact that the ODI's start only after Jan 19th, I believe this could be their WC team too... one man will still have to left out (as they are 16) and I reckon that it might be Tanvir Ahmed.
 
So no Yousuf, they go with young Asad Shafiq instead, Ahmed Shahzad is in and no Rana Naved, they go with Sohail Tanvir instead. I's say this is perhaps the best team from the available players, but I think Yousuf should have been given a chance to end his career on a high. His experience would have been very valuable.
 
The playing 11 could look like this, Abdur Rahman at 8 and Kamran back at the top means that PAK will have a lot of balance in their side.
 
Hafeez  /0
Kamran  /
Younus  /
Misbah  /
Umer A  /
Afridi  /0
Razzaq  /0
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Gul  0
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