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    Posted: 14 January 2011 at 12:11pm
I would rather have Asad Shafiq or Yousuf instead of Younus
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Clobber Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 January 2011 at 12:35am
wow, i literally only looked at this for about 5 minutes, which was long enough to see Umpire Harper pull off two absolute shockers
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Harper never stops amazing me. He has so far made 4 horrendous errors not minor ones in just a day's play.
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I was really ****ed off when he didn't gave Reece out when he was plumb, it has already costed PAK a lot. I really do not understand why the UDRS is not used in this series when the hotspot, snicko, Hawk eye, everything is available! Moreover this should be made mandatory for all series.
 
NZl could well have been bowled out today, instead they are 246/6, hopefully they'll get them tomorrow morning and anything over 250 and I get worried because you never know what these PAK batesmen are going to do.


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UDRS is not being used because the broadcaster has to pay for it and for a low profile two match series like this, it does not make much commercial sense. And there is no hot spot Sam.

Both team will be satisfied with the day's play. Tomorrow morning is going to be crucial if Pakistan can knock them out early. Something tels me Dan is going to score a ton. I also did not understand Dan's decision to bat first - he could have bowled first and NZL could have been batting by day end.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sam_ahmed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 January 2011 at 5:51pm
well I think it should be ICC's responsiblity to make sure the UDRS is in place... by the way Hot spot is there Zuhair, I'm sure, saw it in todays game itself.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Clobber Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 January 2011 at 6:31pm
Ultimately, yes, it should be the ICC's responsibility to pay for all the technology since effectively it is becoming part of the rules of the game. To try and pass this off onto the broadcasters is kind of typical of them though.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sam_ahmed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 January 2011 at 5:41am
Vettori has indeed hit a century Zuhair! NZL have posted a very good total there and PAK too have responded very well. It could have been better had Taufeeq still been there.
 
PAK look confident, NZL do not, but it can all change very quickly as you never know what PAK batsmen are going to do. Hopefully Younus and Misbah will be solid.
 
I think PAK should still search for a win it is very important that PAK do not take a step backwards from here on, they can get 4 rating points from this series if they win 2-0, and only 2 if they win 1-0, while they lose a point if it is 1-1. PAK have a golden chance to win their 1st test series in 4 years it will do a world of good to their confidence and then they can go to WI in May and look to win there as well. Come on PAK, don't let it slip this time.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote spin wizard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 January 2011 at 8:10pm
The way Pakistan is batting tells a lot about their batting, it's nothing to have teams worried about.  No offense, but those pitches in kiwiland has been beauties to bat on and both teams are failing miserably.  It's either that or I'm watching a totally different game.
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Originally posted by zuhair_abbasi

UDRS is not being used because the broadcaster has to pay for it and for a low profile two match series like this, it does not make much commercial sense. And there is no hot spot Sam.

Both team will be satisfied with the day's play. Tomorrow morning is going to be crucial if Pakistan can knock them out early. Something tels me Dan is going to score a ton. I also did not understand Dan's decision to bat first - he could have bowled first and NZL could have been batting by day end.
I'm pretty sure it wasnt that the broadcasters didn't want to use the technology in this series.... I was told it was the suppliers of the technology not being able to come to terms/agree about some thing with icc or who ever?? (not the broadcasters) sorry about being so vague, I cant remember who the other guys were. Thats basically it tho.
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I was really ****ed off when he didn't gave Reece out when he was plumb, it has already costed PAK a lot. I really do not understand why the UDRS is not used in this series when the hotspot, snicko, Hawk eye, everything is available! Moreover this should be made mandatory for all series.
 
NZl could well have been bowled out today, instead they are 246/6, hopefully they'll get them tomorrow morning and anything over 250 and I get worried because you never know what these PAK batesmen are going to do.
A very  good looking Younis Kahn given out on 73, caught at bat pad off a Daniel Vettori delivery that very clearly missed the bat. A terrible decision for Kahn and Pakistan. No UDRS ridiculous! They have to sought this out.
The umpires are having an absolute mere in this series.Angry


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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sledger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 January 2011 at 5:15am
How Harper keeps his job is beyond me , he's always rubbish!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sam_ahmed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 January 2011 at 5:19pm
Yes and that Younus dismissal triggered the collapse too. even hafeez was not out while taufeeq was out but was not given.
 
Still the match is at an interesting stage, NZL will have to push for a win and that would mean that they will have to bat freely. wheather PAK go for a win if given a chance will also be interesting to see.
 
Another good knock by Misbah, 99.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote spin wizard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 January 2011 at 12:06am
Misbah has done well since getting the captaincy in Tests.  One things for sure, this current set of Pakistani batters are applying themselves.  I think Yousuf would have made pretty light work of this kiwi bowling attack.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote 1Daz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 January 2011 at 12:40am

Something needs to be done about these slow over rates, Pakistan bowled 12 overs in the first session today, Crazy. Its against the rules yet nothing is ever done about it... in this series anyway!  McCullum and Guptill looking good at lunch on day 4, 106/0

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Post Options Post Options   Quote zuhair_abbasi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 January 2011 at 5:29am
No doubt about that Spinny. W was surprised by the Kiwis approached today. They have just scored at 3 an over when they were trailing by 20 runs. they surely had nothing to lose and should have played lot more freely. it is still anybody's game and Vettori will be the vital figure for the Kiwis on day 5, but they have not put a lot of runs on the board. On the other had, this may actually work in their favour as Pakistan may go for a win and lose instead of playing a boring draw. interesting 5th day on the cards for sure.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote zuhair_abbasi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 January 2011 at 5:31am
A word on umpiring too - Harper is absolutley rubbish and Sledge is right - he has always been rubbish. Does the ICC ever conduct a review or any such thing? Harper cannot clear if the ICC ever does the performance evaluation.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sledger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 January 2011 at 5:36am
Originally posted by 1Daz

Something needs to be done about these slow over rates, Pakistan bowled 12 overs in the first session today, Crazy. ....


  I didn't see any cricket this morning , but surely you mean 12 overs in the 1st hour Daz ?  Over rates are pathetic nowadays (and by all teams) , but 12 overs in 2 hours is really something !! Confused


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Post Options Post Options   Quote sam_ahmed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 January 2011 at 5:23pm
This game is at a very interesting stage now but I'm quite sure that PAK will not go for a win. Umer Gul bowled quite beautifully.
 
 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote 1Daz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 January 2011 at 3:41am
Pakistan 176/4 with still two hours of play left at least, 98 runs to win. Looks like Pakistan have this one in the bag. They are batting very sensibly. Vettori captaincy has left alot to  be desired in this test series. NewZealand bowling attack is really lacking any penetration. Vettori not bowling well.
 
By the way this is nz's one day world cup 15 man squad if any ones interested.

Squad: Daniel Vettori, Hamish Bennett, James Franklin, Martin Guptill, Jamie How, Brendon McCullum, Nathan McCullum, Kyle Mills, Jacob Oram, Jesse Ryder, Tim Southee, Scott Styris Ross Taylor, Kane Williamson, Luke Woodcock.



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Post Options Post Options   Quote zuhair_abbasi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 January 2011 at 6:05am
Should not have been that sure Sam. Pakistan were never going to go for a win. The fall of early wickets just gave them more reasons to play for the draw and I have absolutely no problem with this - not every other time Pakistan is close on winning a test series. It has happened after 4 years, so that is just fine that they played it safe. Although, it was a mini test series. Full marks to Misbah and Younus for their grit and application.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sledger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 January 2011 at 6:26am
So Pakistan finally win a series and fully deserved too , they were better in all disciplines.  Misbah has excelled , especially with the bat , but also by leading the side so well.   Younus brought much needed experience and the youngsters benefitted - a good allround team effort.
           As for New Zealand, they seem to have gone backwards and you'd have to say they'd abttle to beat Zimbabwe in a test series at present. Allan Donald's a good bowling coach , but even he won't be able to turn this lot into a finely tuned attacking machine.  Lots of heartache before New Zealand start to win again methinks.
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It is only good for Pakistan cricket that they are playing a lot of cricket away from home exposing the young batsmen to overseas conditions. And I dare say they have not done that badly. Pakistan has won 2, lost 1 and drawn three of their last six tests - against good oppositions that include England and SAF too.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sledger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 January 2011 at 6:49am
Yep , in days gone by you'd have thought they'd crumble against Vettori on a 5th day pitch - there's some solidity about this line up.
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Congratulations my team for winning a test series after 4 years It doesn't matter that Pak team went for draw in this test match but it matters more that this depleted side have won this series after all the self created issues(fixing)they were going through in last 2 years.      

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Welcome back Amal , you might just be the good luck your team needs in the World Cup !
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congratulations to Pakistan on winning their first test series after 4 years (since they beat the WI in 2006). This is just the confidence booster that they needed!!! Well done misbah and team.
 
Zuhair, I said "I'm sure they'll not go for a win". I knew they won't (although they could have really!) It is different when you are winning games you tend to go for it, but when you've waited for so long for a series win and when it is so so close, you just don't want to mess it up even by chance!
 
Good performance, although it has come against a team that is struggling,  it is a much needed series win for PAK.
 
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Congratulations to Pakistan. Good and a much needed win there.The team finally seem to put all pieces together while NZ's pieces are falling apart.I expect them  (NZ) to come all guns blazing in WC though.There is something strange in NZ's capability to make it to WC semis stage.
 
Sam you are saying Amal to be around as you assume that she might be lucky charm, right. If my memory is good enough, I think you said you don't really care about the outcome of this series (and see Pakistan surprised you, didn't they?).
 
So there is a little trick out there, I think you shouldn't care about Pakistan's WC chances ... you never know , they might perform well and make you happy Smile. It seems like Pakistan's winning chances are inversly proportional to Sam's interest.
 
On a different note , this team is far better without the likes of Aamir,Butt, Asif and Akmals.Atleast they win and put a decent peformance every time.


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