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    Posted: 01 February 2011 at 7:25am
119 needed in 19 overs at just over 6 an over with 7 wickets in hand. It should be easy for most teams but Pakistan. Younus and Misbah have so far played well and the RR is manageable - but Dan's spell is going to be vital, that, will decide the fate of the match.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote abubakar52 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 February 2011 at 9:08am
What a knock by Misbah!! and what irresponsible batting by some others, great game, how handy is an injured vettori! Great over from him changed the match, but Pakistan clawed back into it and Tanvir didn't waste any time from there.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote zuhair_abbasi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 February 2011 at 9:22am
Vettori's over was indeed vital - he knocked out Umar and Afridi. But they did not have the bowlers to bowl at death and that cost them the much. Misbah's knock was really good in those circumstances - the Kiwis were 30 runs short given the batting beauty of a pitch.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Amal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 February 2011 at 11:59am
This team gives me heart attack in every match
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sam_ahmed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 February 2011 at 4:53pm
Terrific run chase, I saw only the first innings though and was following the game on the internet at office.
 
Misbah has been brilliant ever since his come back, his best knock I have seen in ODI cricket, nice start given by Shahzad, thats exactly what I meant when I said PAK needs someone like him at the top and Younus played a vital hand too. Good batting towards the end by Sohail, actually Gul coming in at 11 is a luxury that PAK haven't had in the past, actually most of the teams have batting depth these days, except perhaps India and WI, and it is good to see PAK also catching up!
 
Delighted with the win, 2-1 up with 2 to go, that is a good position to be in, 1 more win and they will seal their first ODI series victory since Nov 2008.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sledger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 February 2011 at 9:11am
No doubt that this Pakistan side is showing a bit of fight , they fully deserve to be 2-1 in front.  Misbah , old as he is , is showing the others how to bat properly.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote zuhair_abbasi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 February 2011 at 5:26am
Fine knock from Shehzad - he may prove me wrong and I would not mind that at all. But Pakistan are a good 30 runs short on this track with small boundaries. NZL bowlers did really well towards the end and I expect them to chase this one easily.
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Hafeez drops McCullum and probably the match.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote zuhair_abbasi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 February 2011 at 9:02am
So finally an ODI series win - it has been a long wait but worth it. Not a bad time for the team to get going and get in the groove. 4-1 would not be bad, Pakistan will go all out to win the final game
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Post Options Post Options   Quote kahmad Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 February 2011 at 10:02am
it should be good for the confidence. I think they have found now good combination. Maybe they will miss the experience of Yousuf and Malik on some stage in World cup.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote zuhair_abbasi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 February 2011 at 10:11am
They surely will - no doubting that. And from what I see they maybe playing four seamers and Afridi and Hafeez to do the spin duty without playing a specialist spinner and prolonging the tail. Not a bad idea specially for the night matches.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote spin wizard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 February 2011 at 2:05pm
The kiwis bowled well, really well to the death that all Umar, Afridi and co could have managed was mostly singles.
 
Zuhair, I think Pakistan has gotten the batting line up extremely wrong.  Kamran Akmal makes no sense at number 3, he should only open in T20, he's not even a good opener in ODI's, although I could understand that seeing Pakistan has never really had good openers lately but now Hafeez is in some form and Shazad is looking good, Younis should bat 3 and then Misbah.  You'll have Umar, Kamran, Afridi and Razzaq coming in late, and that would probably be the most dangerous latter half of a batting line up.  Misbah and Younis could score steadily, those guys can pick it up at the end.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sam_ahmed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 February 2011 at 3:24pm
congratulations to PAK on the series win, indeed a long wait but finally it ahs come. well done guys, really well done.
 
Shahzad has made his mark for the first time, and I'm sure there are many more suck knocks to come Good stuff from him, Kamran is OK at 3 spinny, need to keep Younus and Misbah at 4 and 5, Kammu will come good, it is just a matter of time.
 
Zuhair, I think they will eventually play a spinner in the WC, they will have to and it will be a difficult decision as to who should be left out,  However, I like the look of this attack, 4 pacers and 2 spinners, if anyone then may be Shoaib / Tanvir will make way for one spinner.
 
PAK's bowling is looking better and better which is heartening to see, Those yorkers by Gul and Wahab are absolute beauties!!! wonderful performacne, and I hope they continue that in the final game... bring on the WC, the green machine is ready!
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Originally posted by sam_ahmed

I'll be surprised if NZL win any series except for the T20's because you can never predict what will happen in a T20I.
 
 
by the way, how was that for a prediction or should I say confidence!!! Big%20smile
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Originally posted by sam_ahmed

Originally posted by sam_ahmed

I'll be surprised if NZL win any series except for the T20's because you can never predict what will happen in a T20I.  
 
by the way, how was that for a prediction or should I say confidence!!! Big%20smile
Just curious. Where was your prediction in that post Sam ? all I can see is that you said you will be "surprised". Yes, you can say about your confidence on them.
 
Anyway, If I missed your implied prediction there, then CONGRATS Thumbs%20Up for it.


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Congrats Pakistan on winning the series. They played really well in Alien conditons and played as a team. Good that they got into some momentum before the world cup. Much more important as NZ falls in the same group this should be confidance booster.
 
Just like India-SA had exact measure of each other , Pak-NZ know each other's strengths and weaknesses. Now they will have one single important match in round robin stanges.
 
They need to pull back soon in Sub continent conditions. They can do well , and can take heart that they did perform well against strong Indian team in Sub continent conditions. My only worry is they have lot of bits and pieces players, when they click , they keep winning and same when they start loosing. Hope their winning ways starts soon with following lineup.
 
My NZ starting lineup:
Guptill
Ryder
Taylor
Styris
B.McCullum
Oram
N.McCullum
Vettori
Mills
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(Franklin/Bennett) - Tricky
 
Apart from the one tricky position, rest selects is pretty fixed. Williamson is great prospect, but will he get a chance? Vettori-Nathan McCullum is a fine combination in Sub-Continent.Explosive batsman like  Jyder, Taylor, Brendon. Utility players like Oram,Styris,Franklin and Mills. Come on BLACK CAPS...for a reason I have predicted you guys as DARK HORSE.
 


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Post Options Post Options   Quote Amal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 February 2011 at 4:32am
Congratulations my team. I am happy that at least they played like a team. I still have not much expectations from this team for WC but i am confident that they will perform better than expected, if they continue to play like a team.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote zuhair_abbasi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 February 2011 at 6:12am
I think Kamran at 3 is just fine Spinny. He wont be bad in sub continent conditions - it will be good for us if he bats alongside Misbah and Younus in the middle overs so that the score board keeps ticking. We have enough fire power at the end so Kamran fits at 3 in my opinion.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote spin wizard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 February 2011 at 12:48pm
Still don't think it's a wise move, normally, your big bats bat at 3.  To be honest, it's a disgrace to the number 3's the game has seen.
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Series ends with 3-2 . What an innings by Ryder, omnious signs this for oppenents. Ryder will like Asian pitches for sure.

Bennet-Mills-Southee : Fast bowling dept
Vettori-Nathan : Spin dept
Styris (Franklin/Oram) - alternative option
 
NZ bat till No#10, not just bat but can win from very difficult positions.
NZ has the best depth of all teams in batting.


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The Black Caps' recent struggles on the field have occurred in the context of something of a power struggle between the selectors on one hand and coach John Wright and players on the other.

'Power struggle' might be overstating it a little - as it has always been the New Zealand cricket policy for selectors to choose the squad (usually in consultation with coach and captain) and for the coach and captain to decide on the playing XI, taking into account the pitch; the opposition; form; strategy and other variables.

However, sources close to the team suggest that stand-in skipper Ross Taylor and Wright had to deal with more than that when they arrived at the ground in Christchurch last Saturday for the third one-day international against Pakistan.

Phone calls from the selectors to Wright and Taylor are understood to have been made - issuing instructions or, at the very least, strongly worded suggestions, on the selection of the playing XI.

It's understood the selectors wanted left-arm spinner Luke Woodcock in, given skipper Daniel Vettori was being rested. Coach and players are believed to have wanted the more experienced Nathan McCullum to give him more preparation for the World Cup.

why the four pace bowlers - Tim Southee, Hamish Bennett, Kyle Mills and Jacob Oram - each had spells into and with the wind. Many cricket followers did not understand why a quickie like Bennett toiled into the wind but it appears this experimentation was to see who did the best job in those conditions.

It has been a trying few days for the panel of Mark Greatbatch, Glenn Turner and Lance Cairns. Sometimes they have been at odds with the thinking of Wright and Vettori as the team completes its final matches before the World Cup opener against Kenya in a fortnight.

Vettori hinted at such a scenario when asked whether he would be available for the fifth one-dayer in Hamilton. He said, with a wry laugh: "I don't make those sorts of decisions."

Wright has been arguing a strong case on behalf of the team for matters to return to the status quo. That hasn't gone unnoticed and he has earned valuable kudos amongst the players; many of whom have been confused and unhappy with the "rotation".

Wright won't say it, but he's apparently keen on assuming a more hands-on selectorial role - much like Graham Henry with the All Blacks. Yet sources suggest he is reluctant to push his case. He is aware of the fate of the previous regime with Greatbatch being ousted as coach but retained as convenor and Vettori removed as a selector.

Wright spoke against rotation, yet that is exactly what happened, especially for that third match. It raises questions over how much influence he wields and if he is running the team on his terms.

Of arguably greater concern is Vettori. His demeanour of late at media conferences has been undemonstrative. He looks jaded and the upcoming trip to the subcontinent does not look to be filling him with joy.

The irony is that, while Vettori has been stripped of some responsibilities, he appears more tired; perhaps a hangover from dealing with the constant politicking. It's understood he will be pleased to end his captaincy afterwards.

Even with the public and team dissatisfaction over rotation, there have been some highlights mitigating the mixed performances which have left this side looking vulnerable. For example, bowling at the death has improved steadily - from matches three to five, the Black Caps improved from 126 runs for three wickets in the last 10 overs to 86 for four and 61 for four.

The Queenstown washout stalled momentum and the series slipped away with 10 personnel changes in the process. Pakistan made three. All players (even Woodcock) got an opportunity but the policy is understood to have harmed the team environment due to frustrations at its seeming random nature.

Consistency has been a victim, be it selection or performance. Ryder was the main example, rested after a swirling 50 and a couple of catches in Wellington. Franklin and Nathan McCullum were also rotated after commendable displays.

At least there seems to be a core. Martin Guptill, Taylor, Scott Styris, Brendon McCullum and Hamish Bennett played every completed game this series. Vettori is a guaranteed starter, as presumably are Tim Southee, Jesse Ryder and Nathan McCullum. James Franklin - after he defended New Zealand's honour so convincingly in India - and Jacob Oram should take the final spots.

Oram's batting might have been patchy, but he is a proven performer late in the order and his bowling has been tight. Kyle Mills is the other player likely to be given a decent run in India, probably rotated with Bennett.

The other three (Kane Williamson, Jamie How and Woodcock) will get little game time if everyone else stays fit.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/cricket/news/article.cfm?c_id=29&objectid=10704426

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Mate, Kyle Mills is a definite starter for the kiwis.  Southee maybe in form but he's nowhere as good an ODI bowler as Mills!!  Mills won't or shouldn't be rotated for anyone.  Mills can wield the willow too.
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I want NZ to shine in world cup because i like Vettori
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So you don't like players on any other team?  If you do, then you'll want all to shine.

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I tired a lot by I did not get this anywhere in any of the popular circket sites or news , if you have exact source let me know.

Originally posted by zuhair_abbasi

Dhoni said the result does not matter much as the WC is on sub-continent pitches - what a lame excuse. Just a couple of days back he was referring this series as a rehearsal for the WC.

Even if he had said that, it would just to ensure that SA don't get the psycological edge before WC as both of them fall in the same group.
Anyway, as you have followed Pak VS NZ tour, and as Pakistan have won a series after a long long time you might not have missed Waqar's comments after losing final match "When you win the series, it's hard to be motivated sometimes. Maybe you get a little lazy at times " - Your comments on this Zuhair?.

Lame excuse or tactical or Waqar really got bored of winning so many matches. I know, you don't rate Waqar as coach, but as a professional cricket they don't give psychological advantage to opponents.
 
As you never pointed about this comment , though this is not a rocket science. I still would like to know your opinion on Waqar's comments.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote zuhair_abbasi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 February 2011 at 8:13am
I never saw that comment but this is stupid if he did say that. He should have instead just said that NZL were the better team on the day. Lack of motivation argument does not fit in here because Pakistan were not on a 20 match winning streak.

Dhoni did say that and I heard it in person in the post match interview.

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Originally posted by zuhair_abbasi

Posted on 13 January:
Dhoni said the result does not matter much as the WC is on sub-continent pitches - what a lame excuse. Just a couple of days back he was referring this series as a rehearsal for the WC.
 
Originally posted by zuhair_abbasi

Posted 10 February:
Dhoni did say that and I heard it in person in the post match interview.
 
Are you sure Zuhair about it, I just got lucky with post match presentation and interview. I am still not getting it.
 
Post Match Presentation:
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RS:4 games to go what are you looking to come out of this series, last five games before the world cup?
MSD:well I think, you know its a important for some of the youngsters to get going and get into a confidant mode before the start of the world cup, so there is plenty,ofcourse the conditions will be totally different when we play the world cup but still it is important to score runs, get wickets and feild really well.
RS:Well tough luck today MS, its johannesburg next
MSD: Thanks a lot
MSD:You know you lose games you win games, so what is important is to have the same midnset throughout the series irrespective of how many matches you win or how many games you lose so I think it will be very important again to start fresh in the next game because whatever has happened in this series, we have played just one game but you know the team who wins the first game or the second game still they have to start from scratch so I think it is a fair chance to both the sides. We just need to play to out potential.
 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote zuhair_abbasi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 February 2011 at 5:26am
I heard it live buddy and that is all I have to tell you. I seriously have better things to do than to artificially make up things.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote MalhotraRaj84 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 February 2011 at 5:20pm
Zuhair , everyone is busy and no one has time to artifically make up things.
 
You heard it live.Means post match presentation.Unfortunately I have not got any such evidance yet.None of the videos/articles say that.
Complete post match presentation video link is there. I have even provided the important transcript section so that it is easier.Never did Dhoni say that.Anyway the video is there for everyone to see.
 
Even in post match presentation video link , did not say that.
 
I have even searched articles right from 1st ODI upto 2nd ODI in many popular circket sites, who generally highlight such spicy sentances uttered by captain.
 
Nowhere did I get such a line by Dhoni.
 
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