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    Posted: 05 September 2011 at 1:13pm
Hahah!! This sucks!! But nonetheless I think I had some beef being critical of Pakistan - mostly for the fact that they bowled first on a flat deck. It was almost like I didn't feel they deserved to come away with a win after such a blunder.
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Good to have you back Zuhair.

On Cheema, well, the guy has done well, he has put in tremendous effort and I like that, as long as a person is performing age should never be a factor and I'm absolutely delighted that Cheema has ended up with 8 wickets in the match and that Pakistan have found another bowler who can serve as a back up or may be even as a regular, I's still prefer the original three though for the first test against Sri Lanka.

Ver fine effort by Hafeez as well, the current Pakistani batting line up looks good and I hope it only gets better, Malik still couldn't get in the team but that is fine with me as long as the current players are doing the job. Malik though will be more useful in the ODI's.

Pakistan win two consecutive tests for the first time since 2005, well done Pakistan, a lot of good things have happened for PAK this year and I hope the year continues to improve, PAK are now undefeated in last 4 test series and have not lost a test series since that disastrous tour of England in August last year.  
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Post Options Post Options   Quote mystery Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 September 2011 at 9:26pm
Originally posted by zuhair_abbasi

I am back fellas!! 

Have hardly been on the forum for a week or more but have not missed nay cricket.

I totally disagree with whoever thinks Aizaz Cheema is a useless bowler. He is a real workhorse and bending the back sort of a bowler. A breed that Pakistan has usually lacked. He bowled with discipline throughout and reaped the rewards d despite the placid track that it was. This guy is 32 that does not mean he can't play test match cricket  - he has earned his place after a tremendous FC season. Respect the guy folks.

Not a Sohail Khan fan though - he does not seem ready for the big stage yet. Junaid Khan is a future prospect and I am not too concerned about his performance, he will surely get better and he looks to me a bowler who will do good when conditions favour him. It is not that bad an idea to try the bench strength on a low key tour.

And I see absolutely no shame in conceding 400 runs or managing to take just 4 Zim wickets ont eh first day. You have to respect the opposition. Pakistan'pace attack was totally inexperienced and the Zimbabweans are coming from a  recent win against BD.  I expect Zim to only get better from here - They will soon be above BD and will give tough time to the WIndies as well.

Why drop Adana Akmal? the guys is pretty tidy behind the stumps - just because he is somebody's brother does not mean he can't keep wickets. He is pretty handy with the bat too and I would want to see him as a permanent member of the test side.

On the match itself - another 70 runs and Zim are in with a huge chance I say. I have seen Pakistan crumble on day 5 a lot recently.  Zimbabwe or not - chasing is not what Pakistan does best. It might turn out to be a very interesting final day. Anything over 150 and I would rule out a Pakistan win.


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I still think there are better bowlers than Cheema in Pakistan but if he is doing well than thats great for Pakistan's cricket. Junaid was impressive he was unlucky in the first innings. Hmm correct about Adnan he has not done anything wrong but becuz of Akmal in his name i hate him little bit.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote zuhair_abbasi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 September 2011 at 7:08am
Yes there maybe better bowlers around - but not everyone is ready yet. This guy has earned his place by consistently performing in FC cricket. Pakistan is fortunate enough to have enough pace bowling talent - any other country ( with the exception of England maybe) would have struggled big time having lost bowlers of Amir and Asif caliber.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sam_ahmed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 September 2011 at 6:33pm
Cheema bowled with good pace too and that was good to see... Zuhair is right, no other country could have survived the kind of loss PAK suffered because of the spot fixing episode, but PAK have moved on and mashallah have so many young fast bowlers coming through that even if Aamer and Asif were to be made available now they would struggle to cement their places in the team.

Apart from Wahab Riaz, Umer Gul, Tanvir Ahmed, Aizaz Cheema, Junaid Khan and Sohail Tanvir, they also have the likes of Sadaf Hussain and Mohammed Talha who can very well make the national team and do equally well. Iftikhar Anjum, Mohammed Sami and Rana Naved are in fact forgotten now.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sledger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 September 2011 at 6:20am
Come the new year they'll be tested in the series against England - good batting pitches and batsmen who like to bat forever - it doesn't get much tougher than that.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote zuhair_abbasi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 September 2011 at 6:42am
Sami and Rana were absolute trash Sam. Especially Sami. Can't believe he played 30 plus test matches for Pakistan.

Sledger is right - it will be a tough test against England but Pakistan recently did well against Saffers in the desert and their batting has somewhat improved. It may not be a highly anticipated series but it certainly  will be of tougher competition than what we just saw in the India-England series
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sledger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 September 2011 at 6:44am
Agreed mate , getting those 20 wickets will be an uphill struggle but if England are to show the rest of the world that they deserve the number 1 spot then they'll have to win this series.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Mikey Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 September 2011 at 11:19am
Asif and Amir were excellent against England last year and showed that good fast bowling can undo this batting line up that England possessed. Neither of those players are available and none of the Pakistani options have the same powers as those two excellent, but troubled, pace bowlers possess.

One key player for Pakistan could be Ajmal. English don't traditionally play spin bowling that well and he could be a key player. Kaneria needs to come back in the side, especially ahead of Rehman - but politics and what not suggests otherwise would occur.

Pakistan need to make sure that they pick their best batting line up and I reckon that means bringing in Shoaib Malik. Pakistan are definitely short 1 or 2 consistent batsmen, that's for sure.
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I would love to see Yousuf back in the team but that is not likely to happen. Malik will be a good option and I am certain he will  play unless Umar Akmal shows some form and resolve at number 6. The middle order is pretty solid and won't be broken easily. The heat of the desert will also play a crucial part and it won't be all that easy to ply long innings there. I expect a well fought series with England having the obvious advantage of being the superior and in form team.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sledger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 September 2011 at 1:17pm
Just how hot can we expect it to be in January zuhair , I'd have thought it would be just lovely and warm !
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My bad - I absolutely forgot it was January. Yes t would be pretty pleasing in January.
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Spin, Spin, Spin guys. I think that's the key for Pakistan. IF they can win the spin wars then they could have a shot at taking the series.
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should be a thriller of a series that between Pak and Eng, but before that PAK have got SLN right after this series against ZIM and that should be a very very interesting series as well also in the UAE, I expect Pak to win that series against SLN and anything less than that would mean Pak's progress hasn't been as good as it looks.

Right after that series against SLN and just before the Eng series PAK take on BAN in BAN.

The best news of all is that right after the ENG series PAK clash against IND, the governments and the boards have given a go ahead for the series and I can say that Neo Cricket, an Indian sports channel, has already advertised the series in some of the leading newspapers.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote sam_ahmed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 September 2011 at 5:33pm
What a good fight by Zimbabwe but Pakistan scrape through to a 4 run win... then again a fairly inexperienced Pakistan team has held it's nerve pretty well. 

ZIM have improved signifcantly and I'm sure if things continue this way they will soon be among the top 8 cricketing nations in the world, well done Zimbabwe, you can be proud of what you have done!

well done to both the teams and I love them both!
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You love the minnows Sam - don't you!!! :p
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sam_ahmed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 September 2011 at 5:37pm
ha..ha... I do Zuhair but believe me Pakistan will be a major threat once again to all the top nations very very soon, I'm eagerly waiting for the SLN series in October! ZIM can only improve from here and these are great signs for cricketing world. Hopefully BAN too can pick themselves up, their series against WI next month is another one I'm looking forward to!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sam_ahmed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 September 2011 at 7:00pm
PAK win their 4th consecutive ODI series, they were dominant in the 2nd ODI. Hafeez scores his 3rd century of 2011, he cerainly has come a long way and a good knock by farhat although I do not know if that good or bad for Pakistan! 

Time to give some youngsters a bit of a go here, may be rameez Raja and Asad Shafiq will get a go tomorrow.

As for ZIM not all is lost, it is a learning curve and ZIM are surely doing good.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote mystery Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 September 2011 at 3:12am
It was a bad thing for Pakistan that Farhat did well dont know why they dropped Shafiq and played a player like Farhat. Shafiq can easily open and is a better fielder too.
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Exactly my thoughts - I did not want Farhat to manage those runs that he did. He is an absolute waste at the top level and should be nowhere near the team
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65/0 chasing 271 - looks like Zim are going to take a consolation win
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sam_ahmed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 September 2011 at 5:52pm
PAK fight back well to win, Asad Shafiq did pretty well today and I agree he should be a regular in the team, Farhat certainly doesn't deserve another chance as of now. Nonetheless a good series white wash by Pakistan. Aizaz Cheema was the find of the series and PAK will only be a lot more stronger with the return of their front line bowlers.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Mikey Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 September 2011 at 3:51am
Sibanda has been in excellent form. If he can learn how to stop playing the pull shot he could be a fine batsman for Zimbabwe for many a year.

Zimbabwe weren't completely outplayed in this series and can take heart from some very decent performances, particularly with the bat. The fast bowling however looked ordinary against a decent Pakistani batting line up. Mpofu is a little bland, while Jarvis and Vitori are still young and probably don't know their games well enough.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sam_ahmed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 September 2011 at 5:39pm
Agreed Mikey, ZIM were impressive in this series except for the 2nd game, the scoreline doesn't reflect how good they have played. Vitori and Jarvis can be very good bowlers, esp Jarvis... he is tall and pacy.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Mikey Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 September 2011 at 6:08am
The pace attack has potential and they have a very decent batting line up. Nothing like the 99 World Cup line up of the Flower brothers, Johnson, Goodwin, Campbell and Whittall, but still not bad. They need one more decent pace bowler in the ranks you'd think, while the spin stocks look good with Price and Lamb being the most impressive. Utseya isn't going to be suitable for test cricket I feel, lacks variety and his off break doesn't turn or dip enough to be frank.

Zimbabwe certainly look more organised than BD. Just like Australia, they have had a management and leadership facelift and I think it is bringing out the best in them after a period of decline. England is also an excellent example of what great leadership and management can do to a side.

World cricket isn't in such a bad state, all teams are competitive and I wouldn't rule out the world no.5 side, Australia, beating world no. 2 India for instance. I think the teams are all quite well matched.
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Only that India are not world number 2 no more mate
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True! Australia are playing South Africa as well... so we can say the world no. 2 and 3.
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I'm looking forward to the test here at Newlands in October - Steyn against Hughes will be fascinating seeing that Hughes belted him to all parts last time they were here!
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Congratulations to Zim for putting up a great show in some of the matches and congratulations to Pakistan for a whitewash in every format of the game. overall after so much problems in 2010 I am satisfied with the performance of my side in 2011. Surprisingly they are playing as a unit now. It was a good tour to judge some of the players. we can say that Cheema is a find of this tour, Hafeez is in top of his form Mashallah, Asad shafiq looks a decent opener. Some of the players performed pretty crap through out the series like both Sohails proved out to be big failures and Malik what a crap player he isAngry. I think we need Afridi or Razzak very badly at the end because we don't have any powerful hitters at the end and it can cot us very badly against big teams
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I'm looking forward to the test here at Newlands in October - Steyn against Hughes will be fascinating seeing that Hughes belted him to all parts last time they were here!


Now that his tail is up with a brisk hundred against SL he could be damaging once again! Let's hope! Should be an awesome series. Bollinger and Harris must play!
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