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sam_ahmed
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Topic: Pakistan v Australia (in England) Posted: 25 June 2010 at 6:31pm |
We have already had some discussion on Pakistan's squad, the omission of Younus and how difficult it is for PAK to even think about winning this series. Here is a proper place to discuss more! List of Fixtures:
1st T20I: Australia v Pakistan at Birmingham
Jul 5, 2010 (17:00 local, 16:00 GMT)
2nd T20I: Australia v Pakistan at Birmingham
Jul 6, 2010 (17:00 local, 16:00 GMT)
1st Test: Australia v Pakistan at Lord's
Jul 13-17, 2010 (10:30 local, 09:30 GMT)
2nd Test: Australia v Pakistan at Leeds
Jul 21-25, 2010 (10:30 local, 09:30 GMT)
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Posted: 28 June 2010 at 10:45am |
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Decent start to the tour for Pakistan as they beat an MCC side which included Lara and Ganguly in a T20 at Lord's
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Posted: 28 June 2010 at 5:45pm |
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yes, although PAK won it very narrowly it is always good to start off a tour with a win, it gives you the momentum and esp. when you have have gone through a win less tour recently it takes away the fear of that happening all over again.
A 3 day game going on between Kent and Pakistan today and PAK scored 360, a scintillating 153 from the "not so talented" as termed by some, Umer Akmal and Umer Gul scored a valuable 30*. Not too many contributions from other batsmen though and that must be a cause of concern for pakistan, Butt scored 26, Malik 27 and Kamran 28. Rehman (who may not get a game when the real thing starts) got 30. Afridi scored a duck and already Pakistan should be worried about his place and form in the longer version of the game. It is vital that Afridi contributes with the bat for Pakistan to have that balance in the side.
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mystery
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Posted: 28 June 2010 at 6:46pm |
It will be interesting to see how Gul bowls he is playing after a long time. I think Afridi will do a good job. Pakistan will be missing Razzaq.
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Posted: 29 June 2010 at 8:37am |
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It just had to be Umar Akmal and it will be him alongside his elder brother throughout the tour. Pakistan just does not have the batting to make big scores - Umar AKmal will obviously not be scoring tons every times he comes out to play. Also he should be playing at 3 instead of 5.
that MCC match must have been a good watch - pity it was not on TV. Nothing like watching Lara bat - and the match reports suggest he batted with ease and grace. And it was a seriously taken up match as well as the Ganguly-Afridi pitch spat suggests.
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Posted: 29 June 2010 at 6:18pm |
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Aamer ran through the Kent top order today before Denly and lower order consolidated. In Mohammed Aamer and Umer Akmal Pakistan have two of the finest young talents in world cricket, can't see Pakistan having a bleak future with those two in the side along with some senior and some "fairly young" players.
I think once the real thing starts we'll see good contributions from the top order as well Zuhair. Malik and Umer will have to hold the middle order together, as for the bowling no matter what the results recently have been but Asif, Aamer and Gul in english conditions will be no easy task whatsoever for any team.
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Posted: 29 June 2010 at 8:00pm |
There is one more player which people should look out for is Ghumman have seen him play he is a very talented guy he will have a solid future along with Umer and Aamer.
Edited by mystery - 29 June 2010 at 8:02pm
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Posted: 30 June 2010 at 10:03am |
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True that - Ghumman and Umar Amin both are the future of our team. I am a bit worried about the bowling depth though as I dont see enough good bowlers back home.
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Posted: 30 June 2010 at 6:06pm |
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That'll be great for Pakistan cricket if he comes good. Actually Pakistan have never been short of talent, often it has been reasons other than cricket that have lead to their downfall.
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Posted: 01 July 2010 at 2:07am |
Originally posted by zuhair_abbasi
True that - Ghumman and Umar Amin both are the future of our team. I am a bit worried about the bowling depth though as I dont see enough good bowlers back home. |
There are always enough spinners around to do the job. Fast bowling , outside Aamer is a worry. I don't rate fringe players like Abdur Rauf, Ifitikhar Anjum, Rana Naved (banned) and so forth.
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Ideal cricketer: Bowl like Warne, bat like Tendulkar, field like Jonty!!
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Posted: 01 July 2010 at 7:22am |
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Yes none of them are test match quality bowlers. But from nowhere, we can produce decent fast bowlers just like we did Aamer and Asif when nobody knew them. So fingers crossed.
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Posted: 01 July 2010 at 10:43pm |
Pakistan problem isn't whether they have good players, it's the board and selectors and probably non team together, as we found out recently when the reasons for the bans were made known.
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Posted: 02 July 2010 at 6:33am |
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Unfortunately, the reasons were never made known mate. Disharmony is not a reason to ban players - it is just the mismanagement which keeps on ruining our cricket.
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Posted: 03 July 2010 at 2:04am |
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Maybe for you Zuhair but for me it's a good enough reason. It's no strange surprise that the best teams are usually the ones that get along best. Disharmony in West Indies and Pakistan camp, guess which 2 is at the bottom of the ladder.
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Posted: 03 July 2010 at 9:23am |
PAK beat Essex by 66 runs in the second warm up T20. Good stuff by all the batters and bowlers. A very fine start to the tour for Pakistan, it was also Salman Butt's first game as the captain of Pakistan side!
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Posted: 03 July 2010 at 10:46am |
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The real test starts from Monday though - the team does look well oiled. it will be good competitive limited overs cricket from Pakistan regardless of the result. But I have my doubts if they can compete well enough in test matches.
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Posted: 03 July 2010 at 3:23pm |
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Razzaq was used well by Butt, I think keeping in mind his good bowling performance in last years WT20 in ENG, he opened the bowling with him and Razzy got 3 top order wickets! It's high time PAK realize the value of a genuine all rounder and stop treating Razzaq as a bits and pieces player who bowls as a part time bowler and bats at No.8! That's just ridiculous.
They can do well in test matches if the slightly experienced players like Butt, Farhat and Malik do well, I hope they play Yasir Hameed ahead of Umer Amin because Yasir is more experienced. Bowlers can certainly keep AUS and ENG to fairly moderate scores but Batting needs to click.
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Posted: 03 July 2010 at 3:59pm |
Originally posted by sam_ahmed
Razzaq was used well by Butt, I think keeping in mind his good bowling performance in last years WT20 in ENG, he opened the bowling with him and Razzy got 3 top order wickets! It's high time PAK realize the value of a genuine all rounder and stop treating Razzaq as a bits and pieces player who bowls as a part time bowler and bats at No.8! That's just ridiculous.
They can do well in test matches if the slightly experienced players like Butt, Farhat and Malik do well, I hope they play Yasir Hameed ahead of Umer Amin because Yasir is more experienced. Bowlers can certainly keep AUS and ENG to fairly moderate scores but Batting needs to click.
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100% agree with you Sam they should stop treating Razzaq like he is a nothing player. Australia most of the time play Hopes even he does not do anything special still they always keep him in the team Razzaq is alot better than him still he is the one who always pays when Pakistan lose badly. I dont think Hameed will do anything good he will struggle i would play Amin he looks so talented next Yousuf for me.
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Posted: 03 July 2010 at 5:41pm |
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Amin is talented, no doubt about that Mystery but in a team where they already have very little experience, I think Hameed will be a fair choice... also Hameed is someone who was always left out while others were given multiple opportunities to cement their places. Now that finally he ahs been selected, he should be given a go.
Meanwhile Pakistan continue their winning run in warm up games beating Northampton in just 15 overs with Afridi scoring at a SR of 300!!! So all set now for the real thing which begins this monday!
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Posted: 04 July 2010 at 2:13am |
Oh my, Pakistan better prepare to face some music. These Aussies are letting those balls fly. Tait, Nannes, Johnson - will be a treat for spectators.
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Posted: 05 July 2010 at 12:15pm |
Let me try my luck with predictions/wishes one more time , Aussies to skittle pakistan under 100 atleast in one of the two T20I's.If that happens twice I will be over the moon.
Come on Tait,Nannes,Jhonson let's see some stumps break into pieces.
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Race to No 1 again ... started!
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Posted: 05 July 2010 at 12:20pm |
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break the stumps in pieces like they did in the World T20 semi finals :-)) They were trashed by Umar Akmal and co.
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Posted: 05 July 2010 at 12:34pm |
Originally posted by kahmad
break the stumps in pieces like they did in the World T20 semi finals :-)) They were trashed by Umar Akmal and co.
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If Umer's 35 ball 54 was thrashing , then I don't know what you call Hussey's 24 ball 60.So much for world best bowling (so called) line up.
EDIT: "Pasting" would be a nice word.
Edited by MalhotraRaj84 - 05 July 2010 at 12:36pm
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Race to No 1 again ... started!
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Posted: 05 July 2010 at 2:03pm |
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its amazing how quickly you can change the topic. It was going about the australian bowlers breaking the stumps and not best bowling. Hussey hammerd pakistani bowlers on that day. Are you happy now? Lets see if the australian quicks can break the pakistani stumps again;-)
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Posted: 05 July 2010 at 2:15pm |
Umer Akmal is a definitely a bright hope in Paksitan lineup, but what few posters are making a bit too much a little too soon.Every little cameo/good knock he plays is Wow'ed as next best thing something never seen before.
Anyway, Just because so many here are having so high expectations on him, I would absolutely love it if he fails pathetically at least for a short while.
My wishes are dangerous, they often come true  .
Edited by MalhotraRaj84 - 05 July 2010 at 2:29pm
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Race to No 1 again ... started!
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Posted: 05 July 2010 at 2:35pm |
Originally posted by kahmad
its amazing how quickly you can change the topic. It was going about the australian bowlers breaking the stumps and not best bowling. Hussey hammerd pakistani bowlers on that day. Are you happy now? Lets see if the australian quicks can break the pakistani stumps again;-)
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Australia got lucky there was no chance for them until last 3 4 overs Hussey played the best innings of his life and the best i have seen in T20. One bad day wont make Pakistani bowlers look bad same thing with India one good day wont make them the Champion but i think Australia's bowling attack is very scary both teams have a great bowling lineup but Pakistan batting is the main problem if they do well in batting they will trouble Australia. I cant wait for the match so many good fast bowlers to watchout for Tait, Shoaib, Johnson, Aamer, Nannes and Gul.
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Posted: 05 July 2010 at 2:41pm |
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Even if Umer fails he is still better than Rohit Charma.
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Posted: 05 July 2010 at 2:48pm |
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Pakistan are so lucky they have so many talented players and a team like India who has so much money still cant produce a single fast bowler they dont even have a quality spinner apart from Harbhajan. My predictions for 2 T20 is 1-1. Aussies to win first one than Pak will win the 2nd.
Edited by mystery - 05 July 2010 at 2:49pm
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Posted: 05 July 2010 at 8:38pm |
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Oh yes, there were some stumps, although not broken but flying all over the place and NO it wasn't tait, Nannes or Johnson but Mr. T20, Umer Gul who was cleaning them up!!! Welcome backl Umer Gul.
Finally, finally, finally, Pakistan beat Australia, it was that man again Umer Akmal who did it with the bat and just how good Umer Gul was, simply brilliant!!!
For the first time since perhaps the time of Inzi, the team looks united. Afridi is doing a fantastic job.
A good start to the tour, but there is a long long season ahead.
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Posted: 05 July 2010 at 10:53pm |
This fiasco seemed to have done Malik some good, seems a bit calmer when batting and played some stunning shots today. Bit needs to work on his laziness, he runs out too many players. Umar Akmal was majestic, certainly the best young batsman at the moment. Good to see Gul back, the best T20 bowler, got all the yorkers spot on.
Was a good game, hoping for another cracker tomorrow. And Pakistan may have to rethink Akhtar and Aussies the spinners. The last few occassions with the T20, Pakistan completely hammered their spinners around.
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