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zuhair_abbasi 
Number 3 Batsman 
Joined: 19 December 2006 Location: Pakistan Online Status: Offline Posts: 6202 |
 Topic: Pakistan v Australia (in England)Posted: 06 July 2010 at 7:22am |
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Aussies did not play the balanced team. Hussey cant be your 5th bowler in a T20 game. They have to rethink it.
It is time that we all recognize Umar Akmal and Aamer are too really special talents - and they will surely be big names in the future. It was quite un-Australian to see them conceding as many extras as they did - 16. Pakistan just bowled three wides or so I guess. |
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kahmad
First Slip
Joined: 21 May 2007 Location: Germany Online Status: Offline Posts: 864 |
Posted: 06 July 2010 at 9:02am |
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There was only one difference yesterday comparing to the chase of T20 semi finals. It was Umar Gul. He is simply the best in T20. He is the only bowler who can bowl 6 perfect yorkers to any Batsman in an over. Without him Pakistan could have lost the game yesterday as well. We miss him in that semi final.
Pakistan can replace Akhtar with a Batsman. They were playing 7 bowlers yesterday. Akhtar without variations isn't good for T20. Umar Akmal proved again his talent. There are very few batsmen in the world who can smash this australian bowling attack. He is definetly one of them. The bowling of Tait was also treat to watch. He is always very dangouras for the Batsmen. |
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mystery
Opener
Joined: 15 January 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2140 |
Posted: 06 July 2010 at 9:14am |
Its hard to understand why Watson is not bowling i hope he does not go White's way and leave bowling. We all know they are special except one guy and you know who im talking about.
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Rohit Sharma - What the world has seen is gear 1, gear speed 2,3,4,5,7,8,9 to be witnessed in IPL only.
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mystery
Opener
Joined: 15 January 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2140 |
Posted: 06 July 2010 at 9:21am |
I think Gul should not play Test matches otherwise he will start to struggle again let him for Odi's and T20. Pakistan already have so many fast bowlers they dont need Gul. Akhtar is useless in T20 and to me he does not look fit he is running like he is bowling from 2 3 days. Tait is special just like Aamer but he is not as fit as Aamer is.
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Rohit Sharma - What the world has seen is gear 1, gear speed 2,3,4,5,7,8,9 to be witnessed in IPL only.
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-JP-
Manager 
Joined: 21 January 2005 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6232 |
Posted: 06 July 2010 at 11:21am |
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Pakistan's win yesterday was quite remarkable, because they almost won despite themselves when you consider the farcical run out of Kamran Akmal, Afridi's golden duck, Umar Akmal being left with the tail earlier than he would have liked, then some typically shambolic fielding, and Shoaib Akhtar's two over spell of fast boundary balls so fair play to them.
Umar Akmal was superb, and Umar Gul reminded everyone just how badly he has been missed, he hit a decent six as well having been dropped by Tait which surprised everyone. Edited by -JP- - 06 July 2010 at 11:21am |
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zuhair_abbasi
Number 3 Batsman
Joined: 19 December 2006 Location: Pakistan Online Status: Offline Posts: 6202 |
Posted: 06 July 2010 at 12:31pm |
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Was not a decent one JP - was just a short arm jab and even he was surprised after hitting it. Tait's miss was pretty bad - he tried to catch it the Australian way when it was supposed to be taken the regulation way.
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-JP-
Manager
Joined: 21 January 2005 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6232 |
Posted: 06 July 2010 at 12:36pm |
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Surely any six from a number 9/10 batsman is decent
 It probably put him in a good frame of mind ahead of his bowling though.
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zuhair_abbasi
Number 3 Batsman
Joined: 19 December 2006 Location: Pakistan Online Status: Offline Posts: 6202 |
Posted: 06 July 2010 at 12:58pm |
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To be honest, I thought Gul would be rusty as he had been in the warm up games - but he proved everyone wrong. Aussies will have to look after the extras they gave away - 16 is a pretty high number in a T20 game
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kahmad
First Slip
Joined: 21 May 2007 Location: Germany Online Status: Offline Posts: 864 |
Posted: 06 July 2010 at 1:01pm |
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Aussies will come hard at Pakistan today, but Pakistan have some confidence now. Top order of Pakistan should do better. Its also time to see some Razzaq show.
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zuhair_abbasi
Number 3 Batsman
Joined: 19 December 2006 Location: Pakistan Online Status: Offline Posts: 6202 |
Posted: 06 July 2010 at 2:27pm |
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He is massively under utilized - he comes at 8 with chips down - he cannot do much from there. He should be promoted up the order
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MalhotraRaj84
Opener
Joined: 13 April 2009 Location: India1 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2204 |
Posted: 06 July 2010 at 4:31pm |
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Weakest link in Aussies T20 lineup is M Clarke.His reputation is fast deteriorating in shortest form of the game,though it was already known that he was a terrible misfit in T20's. Infact Clarke should go all out , just bang bang at everything. If he has to retain his spot/captaincy, that is the only way to go in Aussie T20's lineup.
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Race to No 1 again ... started!
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sam_ahmed
Middle-Order Batsman
Joined: 27 November 2007 Location: India Online Status: Offline Posts: 4363 |
Posted: 06 July 2010 at 6:40pm |
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162 from Pakistan today, Kamran, Butt, Umer all contributing and a bit of a cameo from Aamer at the end. Some good comments above esp the one of Aussies not playing a balanced team, I thought the same when I saw Smith and D Hussey trying to bowl 8 overs between them, although today Hussey did well.
Very much defendable this score although PAK could have done much better given the start. |
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God is a better planner... so whenever u'r plan fails, cheer up... God has a better plan for you!
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sam_ahmed
Middle-Order Batsman
Joined: 27 November 2007 Location: India Online Status: Offline Posts: 4363 |
Posted: 06 July 2010 at 8:25pm |
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Congratulations to Pakistan on winning the T20 series 2-0!!! Very good performance once again, Aamer and Umer Akmal seem to be fighting for the "best youngster" position and that's not a bad competition to have for any team!
After a long long time I have seen Shoaib Akhtar bowl with that fire that he is known for, overs number 2 and 3 from shoaib were a treat to watch. I must say Akhtar can still play test matches if he can look after his fitness levels. I was always very sure that winning the games is just a matter of time for Pakistan and that's what I said after the Asia cup loss. It's a very talented team and hopefully they'll be able to carry this momentum into the test series. Edited by sam_ahmed - 06 July 2010 at 8:27pm |
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God is a better planner... so whenever u'r plan fails, cheer up... God has a better plan for you!
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MalhotraRaj84
Opener
Joined: 13 April 2009 Location: India1 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2204 |
Posted: 06 July 2010 at 8:36pm |
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Congratulations to Pakistan team for long awaited decent performance
 , Now Test matches will prove whether this was just a flash in the pan or if they have really improved.
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mystery
Opener
Joined: 15 January 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2140 |
Posted: 06 July 2010 at 10:35pm |
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Its funny some people still call it a decent performance. A team which has players like Warner, Watson, White, D - M Hussey, Tait, Nannes, Johnson how can any team beat them with decent performance is a mystery. Its very unlikely they will win test matches they might be able to draw it but winning looks very difficult for this young full of superstar team. |
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Rohit Sharma - What the world has seen is gear 1, gear speed 2,3,4,5,7,8,9 to be witnessed in IPL only.
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MalhotraRaj84
Opener
Joined: 13 April 2009 Location: India1 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2204 |
Posted: 07 July 2010 at 5:37am |
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Aussie line up
Katich
Watson Ponting Clarke Hussey North Paine Hauritz Jhonson Bollinger Hilfenhaus This line up should be more than enough for Pakistan, but thinking long term definitely they need lot of changes before ashes, this line up against England won't work even in Australia.
I guess, Cameron White is a must in Tests.Such a cool head customer should picked up.How can Bollinger be second choice/recplacement, he has to be first choice bowler in Aussie test line up.
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zuhair_abbasi
Number 3 Batsman
Joined: 19 December 2006 Location: Pakistan Online Status: Offline Posts: 6202 |
Posted: 07 July 2010 at 7:00am |
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North and Paine are the weak links in the Aussies team. Don't think Hauritz is even in the squad - if they play Smith, Pakistan would love that. So its not that the Asssies have an invincible eleven for the tests against Pakistan.
I agree Pakistan's real test starts now. They have a very weak batting line - which needs some experience. Umar Akmal needs to play at 3 or 4 - 5 is too low for him to help Pakistan achieve bigger totals. My team would go like: Butt Amin (Fawad) Yasir Umar Akmal Malik Kamran Afridi Aamer Gul Asif Kaneria |
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Amal
Extra Cover
Joined: 13 March 2008 Location: Pakistan Online Status: Offline Posts: 507 |
Posted: 07 July 2010 at 8:30am |
This team looks very week for tests but we don't have any other options
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Amal
Extra Cover
Joined: 13 March 2008 Location: Pakistan Online Status: Offline Posts: 507 |
Posted: 07 July 2010 at 8:31am |
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Congratulations to my team for winning the series
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kahmad
First Slip
Joined: 21 May 2007 Location: Germany Online Status: Offline Posts: 864 |
Posted: 07 July 2010 at 8:33am |
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good choice. I would switch the positions of Amin and Yasir. Razzaq should replace Malik.
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zuhair_abbasi
Number 3 Batsman
Joined: 19 December 2006 Location: Pakistan Online Status: Offline Posts: 6202 |
Posted: 07 July 2010 at 11:22am |
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Razzaq ain't even in the squad matey
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spin wizard
Opening Bowler
The world’s next great spinner Joined: 21 January 2006 Location: Saint Vincent Online Status: Offline Posts: 9453 |
Posted: 07 July 2010 at 1:02pm |
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Zuhair, for the way Akmal bats, I think 3 is too high for him. He's better off at 5 for now, well, can go to 4 seeing there is no Yousuf in the squad but I definitely don't think he's a number 3.
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In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage.
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zuhair_abbasi
Number 3 Batsman
Joined: 19 December 2006 Location: Pakistan Online Status: Offline Posts: 6202 |
Posted: 07 July 2010 at 1:44pm |
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I hear you Spinny. three at the moment might just be one position too high - but 5 is also one too low because it leaves him with the lower order - your best batman need to be batting in the top 4
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sam_ahmed
Middle-Order Batsman
Joined: 27 November 2007 Location: India Online Status: Offline Posts: 4363 |
Posted: 07 July 2010 at 5:45pm |
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I'm quite sure that Pakistan will go with the following line up for the first test:
Butt Farhat Amin Umer Akmal Malik Afridi Kamran Akmal Aamer Gul Kaneria Asif I'd like to see Yasir play ahead of Umer Amin only because of Yasir's experience, but it won't happen, Waqar backs Amin and he'll play him ahead of Yasir. Bowling looks fantastic. |
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God is a better planner... so whenever u'r plan fails, cheer up... God has a better plan for you!
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mystery
Opener
Joined: 15 January 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2140 |
Posted: 08 July 2010 at 8:13pm |
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Yup sam bowling looks awesome.
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Rohit Sharma - What the world has seen is gear 1, gear speed 2,3,4,5,7,8,9 to be witnessed in IPL only.
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dips_december
Number 3 Batsman
The next greatest left arm spinner Joined: 31 March 2006 Location: India Online Status: Offline Posts: 5230 |
Posted: 09 July 2010 at 12:07pm |
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Good to see Pakistan winning a series against Australia. They have had a bad run in recent times but when they are on song they are one of the toughest teams to beat. Shoaib Akhtar so far looks as if he's learnt a lesson or two at home.
As far as the tests goes the batting line up looks a bit fragile with only Butt and Malik looking the most experienced batsmen. Afridi's record in tests is not bad for an all rounder but then he's playing the longer format after ages! Australia on the other hand look a strong a batting unit while the bowling looks a bit fragile with the return of Hilfenhaus and debutante Smith! Pakistan are known to be good players of spin but then again there's been a lot of talk going around about Smith the sensation! Hope its an evenly contested series and not like the one we had down under! |
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spin wizard
Opening Bowler
The world’s next great spinner Joined: 21 January 2006 Location: Saint Vincent Online Status: Offline Posts: 9453 |
Posted: 09 July 2010 at 4:27pm |
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One things fo certain here, Pakistan bowling is the only thing that will be saving them in these Test matches. You don't need 4 of the best bowler to run through a Pakistani batting line up. Johnson, Hilfenhaus could well be into the Pakistani tail the time they're finish with the new ball. |
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In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage.
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sam_ahmed
Middle-Order Batsman
Joined: 27 November 2007 Location: India Online Status: Offline Posts: 4363 |
Posted: 09 July 2010 at 6:26pm |
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not quite Spinny. AUS were very much beatable the last time when PAK played them. Quite dramatically though, PAK ended up losing every game they played. AUS are still very much beatable and this time PAK are high on confidence and should be able to give them a good fight.
However, I agree that AUS start as favorites. |
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God is a better planner... so whenever u'r plan fails, cheer up... God has a better plan for you!
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mystery
Opener
Joined: 15 January 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2140 |
Posted: 09 July 2010 at 7:55pm |
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Fielding will be a important thing if they they field well than i think they might be able to win one of the matches.
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Rohit Sharma - What the world has seen is gear 1, gear speed 2,3,4,5,7,8,9 to be witnessed in IPL only.
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spin wizard
Opening Bowler
The world’s next great spinner Joined: 21 January 2006 Location: Saint Vincent Online Status: Offline Posts: 9453 |
Posted: 10 July 2010 at 2:09am |
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Yes Sam, Aussies were very much beatable but their batsmen failed that and that's what I'm saying, if anything will be saving Pakistan, it has to be the bowling. One thing I know, if there is no bad weather, there won't be any draw games. Pakistan style of Cricket is either win or lose, a bit like the West Indies. Draws only come about with those 2 teams when the pitch is dead.
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In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage.
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