Pakistan v NewZealand (in U.A.E and NZL)

Michael Bevan was a serial underperformed. He averaged something like 60 in FC cricket and in all his test opportunities, and he was given plenty, he never made 100. He had one great series v WI at home in 96 where he got two scores of 80+ and got a 10 wicket match haul. He was seen as a genuine all rounder in those days and was sometimes picked for his bowling. End of the day though he was a batsman and he  couldn't crack it at test level.

On the point of Hasan Raza, I don't understand if you're so naturally gifted why you'd be that lazy and not train and work on your game more. Seriously, how much is he making playing domestic cricket and where is the motivation to represent your nation?

Probably he was not groomed properly by PCB. There is one more research that goes to prodigies, if they are succesfull then everything comes fine, but if they don't then if dents their confidance to a great extent all their life. That is the reason you might have seen , child genius/prodigies are not promoted as they used to do earlier.

Anything about 18 is fine if a player has talent.The mental toughness would have come by that time.

Mate he was never 14 when he made the debut. He was 17 then - which is still quite young. Actually, it is not Hasan's fault entirely - the selectors lost faith in him when he failed to show up performance at international stage and dropped him even from the A team which dented his confidence. He is still a brilliant player but the selectors don't think of him no more. He has made enough money I guess to live a respected life from the ICL. He owns a big house, latest car model and all other things. But I haven't seen him training hard in off seasons which is why he has lost the attention of the selectors.

http://www.app.com.pk/en_/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=88504&Itemid=1

Hasan claims to be 27, meaning he was 14 when he debuted.


Then again... how accurate are birth records in Pakistan? Waqar Younis claims he doesn't even know his own birthday.


Edited by milkman - 30 October 2009 at 10:07am

That does make sense, especially when Pakistani selectors always want to choose younger blokes. He definitely didn't look or come across as 14, 17 seems more appropriate. 

Originally posted by zuhair_abbasi Hiding the real age is quite a common thing among cricketers in Pakistan

Umar Akmal is actually 37

Funny thing is though Hasan Raza was in school when he was picked for tests. It's not like he was born and no one saw him for 2 years and his parents told everyone that he was just born when he was already 2. That's ridiculous. Some of the birthing records in these countries are pathetic really.

So this series finally gets underway tomorrow. The Kiwi's have had a week to acclimatise which is good. But there was no warm up game??

Never really remembered any warm up games for an ODI series. That's weird? And who would they play, aren't they playing in the UAE? Not like there are any domestic sides there.

Why is it difficult for PAK players? They are all playing domestic cricket and working on their form...

it is a complete series Milky... Tests, ODI's and T20's ... It is just that it'll be played at different venues due to the situation in PAK.