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    Posted: 25 October 2010 at 6:04pm
The big series is here, Pakistan return to action after their controversial tour of England with another new test captain and a couple of senior players making their return.

Considering the conditions PAK can win, at least, the T20's and the ODI's. While one would believe they do not have the pace battery to win the tests. South Africa, being a highly professional team will make life as hard as possible for Pakistan no matter what the conditions. Watch out for the man in form Hashim Amla and their captain Graeme Smith.

As much as Pakistan will try to stay away from the spot fixing controversy, this tour is bound to be hit by some news or the other as the hearing of the suspended trio will take place during this tour and that too in Dubai.

Tue Oct 26          
16:00 GMT | 20:00 local
21:30 IST
1st T20I - Pakistan v South Africa
Sheikh Zayed Stadium, Abu Dhabi



Wed Oct 27          
16:00 GMT | 20:00 local
21:30 IST
2nd T20I - Pakistan v South Africa
Sheikh Zayed Stadium, Abu Dhabi



Fri Oct 29          
11:00 GMT | 15:00 local
16:30 IST
1st ODI - Pakistan v South Africa
Sheikh Zayed Stadium, Abu Dhabi



Sun Oct 31          
11:00 GMT | 15:00 local
16:30 IST
2nd ODI - Pakistan v South Africa
Sheikh Zayed Stadium, Abu Dhabi



Tue Nov 2          
11:00 GMT | 15:00 local
16:30 IST
3rd ODI - Pakistan v South Africa
Dubai International Cricket Stadium



Fri Nov 5          
11:00 GMT | 15:00 local
16:30 IST
4th ODI - Pakistan v South Africa
Dubai International Cricket Stadium



Mon Nov 8          
11:00 GMT | 15:00 local
16:30 IST
5th ODI - Pakistan v South Africa
Dubai International Cricket Stadium



Fri Nov 12 - Tue Nov 16
06:00 GMT | 10:00 local
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1st Test - Pakistan v South Africa
Dubai International Cricket Stadium



Sat Nov 20 - Wed Nov 24
06:00 GMT | 10:00 local
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2nd Test - Pakistan v South Africa
Sheikh Zayed Stadium, Abu Dhabi


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 October 2010 at 11:58pm
So these games will be starting very late in the night and going through to the morning?  Do people in the UAE sleep at all?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 October 2010 at 4:40am
Afridi is very optimistic as usual

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Cricket for peace!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 October 2010 at 6:22am
There would not be much attendance there for sure.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 October 2010 at 1:57pm
I'll have a look this afternoon , but it's the 50 overs matches that matter , the WC isn't far off.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 October 2010 at 2:32pm
Yes, I will be interested in the 50 overs games too. South Afirca seem to have built a relatively new look team, which seems pretty strong - but I am saying nothing about their WC chances - we all know they will, well choke.

Pakistan on the other hand, are far from settled but still look a good enough side especially in the UAE conditions. It will be a well fought series.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 October 2010 at 6:07pm
90/6, Pakistan in tatters. Good that I am not receiving Ten Cricket signals at my home!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 October 2010 at 7:28pm
finally I am able to watch on the internet live streaming but unfortunately I  got my unlimited plan cut off last month and now watching these matches will cost me a lot! I better stick to cricinfo. Angry

Anyways RSA 35/3 after 7 overs... Pakistan fight back!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 October 2010 at 8:15pm
Well I have to say this is more of a Pakistan A team without Aamer, Asif, Butt and Kamran, they just cannot win like this. I really do not understand how Pak will turn this around in the coming months with the WC round the corner. Almost all the teams are busy finalizing their players, Pak do not even know which players can they pick and which they can't. I really do not have words to express my disappointment.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 October 2010 at 4:54am

Sam, you don't have to pay to watch games online, I get all for free, just got to pick your sites right.

And, poor game by the Pakistani's today, then again, when they come out tomorrow, might be a totally different side that will be smashing the proteas bowlers all over the park.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 October 2010 at 6:11am

Correct SW there are so many web sites that shows online matches for free.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 October 2010 at 6:42am
It was not Amir and Asif that we missed Sam. It was just poor show of batting and some disciplined SAF bowling. Pakistan bowled just ok, you dont defend 120 on such big grounds, do you. the balance is missing without Akmal. Shahzaib is a waste, they should rather have Asad Shafiq.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 October 2010 at 9:52am
that shows that pakistan domestic level is very low. Shahzaib was smashing every bowler but oninternational Level he is not feeling well. Imran Nazir is much better than Shahzaib or Farhat. He should replace one of them.
Afridi played well but this wasnt responsible innings. As a captain he should have played a little carefully.
Abdul Razzaq has to play in first 5 overs or in last 5 over. He cant play spin that well.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 October 2010 at 10:16am
We must all stop discussing about Afridi's batting - we all know he knows just one way to bat. Responsible or not - that is how he plays. Shahzaib is crap, he should be nowhere near the team.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 October 2010 at 10:38am
Afridi is now captain and a captain must set sample for the rest of the team. How can he tell other members to be responsible at crease?
Shazaib and Farhat are both crap players.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 October 2010 at 12:25pm

Its simple Selectors are crap.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 October 2010 at 12:35pm
Dont always blame them. It was just a T20 - the other side played better cricket. Pakistan did not. Period.

Should not look much into this performance. It is a long tour, Pakistan needs its best players back to compete well against a very formidable Safrican unit.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 October 2010 at 12:38pm
I think the answer is simpler. The selectors may be crap but the Pakistan team is too. And with the home situation so unstable they will never again be anything like the powerhouse they were in the late 70's and early 80's.
 
West Indies have more of a chance of a renaissance than Pakistan does.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 October 2010 at 12:55pm
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West Indies have more of a chance of a renaissance than Pakistan does.


That's a big call mate , both sides have one thing in common - a complete shambles overseeing them !
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 October 2010 at 12:57pm
It's a real shame too- Pakistan have produced some of the most elegant batsman in cricket history like Abbas and some of the fiercest fast bowlers as well. I hope that both teams slowly make their way back. 20/20 isn't the answer though that destroys technique it doesn't make your cricket better only fielding.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 October 2010 at 1:46pm
Pakistan was a force in the 90s too mate. Only Australia had a better record than Pakistan in the 90s. I am pretty sure Pakistan cricket will bounce back strong - it won't die for sure.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 October 2010 at 2:08pm
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Pakistan was a force in the 90s too mate. Only Australia had a better record than Pakistan in the 90s. I am pretty sure Pakistan cricket will bounce back strong - it won't die for sure.
 
I really hope so. The 90's team wasn't as strong as the 80's side- they were the only team who could really stand up to the windies when they were at their peak.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 October 2010 at 2:16pm
90s was pretty good too mate - yes 80s was probably the finest though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 October 2010 at 4:19pm
West Indies Cricket Board making some gutsy step lately which I like - it will help to stamp out that complacency that the bigger feel that they're bigger than the game.  Now they know that because you're better doesn't automatically mean you're being picked.
 
Anyhow, I ain't to worried about Pakistan Cricket.  Nevermind the team, as long as they're switched on, it's trouble for the opposition.  Only if Pakistan could always field their best team, it would be so good for Cricket.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 October 2010 at 6:09pm
Good to see Mystery back and I think to an extent he is right. The selection of some of the players is hard to understand, Farhat in a T20? Why should Haider be playing, can't have Shafiq as a keeper? Nazir and Sohail Tanvir are two very good T20 players, why are they not in the team?

I agree Zuhair, overall it may be poor batting but I can't stop thinking about the loss of those three and unfortunately Kamran is injured. I don't care even if Pak lose this series but things are not looking good for the WC and that is the biggest concern.

Anyways PAK 84/6 at the moment, doesn't look good again.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 October 2010 at 8:26pm
Now see Zuhair that is the difference I am talking about between a 35 year old Akhtar and a 19 year old Aamer... Akhtar, and I have a lot of respect for him will struggle for consistency, he surely has a role to play still but he is not the lead bowler anymore who sets an example, Pakistan needs one.

Butt and Kamran are missed at the top of the order, the current lot cannot even survive 2 overs, I cannot understand why Malik is out of the team when others here are far worse.

Anyways, I have had a terrible weekend last week and the one before that wasn't great either so I'm hoping it's time I have a good one this week, hopefully will hear some good news.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 October 2010 at 11:22pm
Originally posted by sam_ahmed

Good to see Mystery back and I think to an extent he is right. The selection of some of the players is hard to understand, Farhat in a T20? Why should Haider be playing, can't have Shafiq as a keeper? Nazir and Sohail Tanvir are two very good T20 players, why are they not in the team?


 
Im always here mate just feel lazy to post. Farhat, Shahzaib and Haider all are useless in T20. I dont know why they are not using Shafiq as a keeper. Nazir is a ideal player for T20.
 
My ideal T20 team would be:
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 October 2010 at 1:11am
Don't see what the fuss about Nazir is, he hardly has played any innings worth remembering in international cricket.  Getting a 20 off 12 balls and being dismissed isn't good!
 
And I guess this is why Akmal will always be in the team, neither back up keepers have the flash with the bat as he does.
 
And today was another poor batting display, that opener looked very poor.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 October 2010 at 6:47am
Shahzaib and Farhat have always been bad - so nothing new in it. Hafeez is there for his bowling to cover Razzaq's lose overs. I agree there is a place for Malik in the team too. Nazir is just not good except maybe in these conditions. Dont blame the bowlers - you cant keep scoring 120 and expect them to defend. Pakistan deserved to lose.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 October 2010 at 8:18am
Nazir played some very good innings in international innings. 63 insemi final in the first T20 wc against New Zealand was very good. He made also 37 in the finals against India before he got run out. If an opener gives you a quick 20 then it is a good start.
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