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Topic: Younis Vs Sehwag
Posted By: Majestic Khan
Subject: Younis Vs Sehwag
Date Posted: 25 February 2006 at 5:23am
Guys

I am just sick of comparisons where they put Sehwag against the greats...

Lets compare him in the league where he belongs at the moment!!!

Younis Khan and Sehwag have played similar no. of test matches, lets compare their records and have a poll

Younis
Mat  Runs  HS   BatAv 100  50   W    BB  BowlAv 5w  Ct St

42 3439 267 48.43 11 13 2 1/24 84.50 0 43 0
Sehwag
42  3614 309   54.75  11  10   3  1/17  135.00  0  36  0
Now we have two choices, lets start comparing Younis with Dravid & Tendulkar or keep Sehwag in his own league...




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Posted By: Majestic Khan
Date Posted: 25 February 2006 at 6:55am
However, there is one major difference!

When Younis plays better Pakistan wins... He averages 50% more than his overall test average when Pakistan wins.

Younis's 7 out of 11 100s are match winning.

Sehwag's the other way around, when India wins, his average drops below his overall average...

Sehwag's has made only 2 out his 11 100s in a victory.
Younis
Mat Runs HS BatAv 100 50 W BB BowlAv 5w Ct St
Played 42 3439 267 48.43 11 13 2 1/24 84.50 0 43 0
Won 18 1952 267 69.71 7 8 - - - - 23 0

Sehwag
Mat Runs HS BatAv 100 50 W BB BowlAv 5w Ct St Played 42 3614 309 54.75 11 10 3 1/17 135.00 0 36 0
Won 15 1078 309 51.33 2 4 0 - - 0 23 0




Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 25 February 2006 at 6:58am
So there you go then. That means that even though Sehwag is a big part of India's team, Younis makes an ever bigger contribution to the Pakistan team. Younis has also got a better technique than Sehwag. Sehwag barely has any footwork.

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Posted By: wiseguy
Date Posted: 25 February 2006 at 7:18am

Sehwag doesnt play under pressure, his second innings average is way low compared to ist innings, similarlr he rarely features in sucessful run chases, But he is exciting to watch for his exploits early in the innings similar to afridi,and dhoni, bith excitinf to watch, but not truly dependable.

Younis khan is a breed apart, a thoroughbred, man of crises for pakistan, immensly telented, reliable, infact the cricket revival in pakistan was becos of two players Inzi and younis. The way he has progressed in the last one year he deserves a comparison with dravid, or the resurgent yuvraj singh (though he hasnt done that much as yet).

All in all sehwag in league of pinch hitters, younis in the league of batsman!



Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 25 February 2006 at 7:23am
Yup! I completely agree.

Younis is a proper batsman while Sehwag is a pinch hitter.

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Posted By: Majestic Khan
Date Posted: 25 February 2006 at 8:05am
Originally posted by wiseguy

The way he has progressed in the last one year he deserves a comparison with dravid, or the resurgent yuvraj singh (though he hasnt done that much as yet).


Wiseguy,
Please dont compare Yuvraj with Younis, Younis is a class above.  You can compare Yuvraj with the likes of Salman Butt I believe....


Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 25 February 2006 at 8:12am
Yuvraj has been in good form lately and deserves comparison with Younis.

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Posted By: wiseguy
Date Posted: 25 February 2006 at 10:41am

I am really sorry,yuvraj needs a lot to prove to be catagorized with dravid and younis khan!

Infact I have made a few groups

Sachin, Inzimam, Lara, Ponting...... Class acts

Dravid, Younis, Sangakara, Kalis,martyn,....... Dependable

Yuvraj, Butt, Pieterson,Rudolf, Hussy ....... Upcoming & Improving

Afridi, Sehwag, Dhoni, Gilchrist, Symonds, Hinds,......Pinch hitters



Posted By: Majestic Khan
Date Posted: 25 February 2006 at 1:58pm
Yeah, right Wiseguy...

No votes for Sehwag???

I think just because people were voting for him previously without taking a look at his record....

Now they have seen his records therefor no votes for Sehwag anymore!


Posted By: Clobber
Date Posted: 25 February 2006 at 2:30pm
Just to illustrate about stats never giving the full story;

The true measure of a player's ability is how he fares against the very best, which in the cricket world of the last few years is Australia, so let's see the records of those two gentlemen against the men at the top.

Sehwag
Mat  Runs  HS    BatAv   100  50      

9 846 195 49.76 2 3

Younis

Mat Runs HS BatAv 100 50

6 382 87 31.83 0 3




Posted By: GingerPrince
Date Posted: 25 February 2006 at 2:39pm
Originally posted by wiseguy


Infact I have made a few groups


Sachin, Inzimam, Lara, Ponting...... Class acts


Dravid, Younis, Sangakara, Kalis,martyn,....... Dependable


Yuvraj, Butt, Pieterson,Rudolf, Hussy ....... Upcoming & Improving


Afridi, Sehwag, Dhoni, Gilchrist, Symonds, Hinds,......Pinch hitters



I think Mike Hussey has shown that he is a class act,I think your wrong on Gilly and Symo though they are both class acts because they can play proper shots unlike afridi who just tries to slog it out of the ground

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Posted By: Majestic Khan
Date Posted: 25 February 2006 at 2:48pm
Originally posted by GingerPrince


I think Mike Hussey has shown that he is a class act,I think your wrong on Gilly and Symo though they are both class acts because they can play proper shots unlike afridi who just tries to slog it out of the ground


I think the main concern for Ginger and similar people is not that Afridi is a slogger, but that he is a very successful slogger!!!

Specially against India, whom he turns into absolute waste......


Posted By: Majestic Khan
Date Posted: 25 February 2006 at 2:50pm
Originally posted by Clobber

Just to illustrate about stats never giving the full story;
The true measure of a player's ability is how he fares against the very best, which in the cricket world of the last few years is Australia, so let's see the records of those two gentlemen against the men at the top.
Sehwag
Mat  Runs  HS    BatAv   100  50      

9 846 195 49.76 2 3
Younis

Mat Runs HS BatAv 100 50

6 382 87 31.83 0 3



After doing hours of research on stats, my friend Clobber has finally come up with one Stat out of so many where Sehwag is ahead of Younis.......


Posted By: Clobber
Date Posted: 25 February 2006 at 3:22pm
first one I looked up actually and more than a little telling too


Posted By: Majestic Khan
Date Posted: 25 February 2006 at 3:30pm
Originally posted by Clobber

first one I looked up actually and more than a little telling too


& this is exactly what you will never do for Dhoni & Co.


Posted By: Majestic Khan
Date Posted: 25 February 2006 at 3:33pm
Originally posted by Clobber

first one I looked up actually and more than a little telling too


& being so naive, you simply missed that performing in Teams' victory is less important than performing in lost or drawn matches against Australia.... (thats an Indian batsman's tradition, play for record than for victory)


Posted By: Jyothika
Date Posted: 25 February 2006 at 3:36pm
Originally posted by Majestic Khan


Originally posted by Clobber

Just to illustrate about stats never giving the full story;
The true measure of a player's ability is how he fares against the very
best, which in the cricket world of the last few years is Australia, so
let's see the records of those two gentlemen against the men at the top.
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Sehwag</span>
<pre><font face="MONOSPACE,COURIER NEW,COURIER">Mat Runs HS    BatAv   100 50       9  &nb sp;846   195   49.76 &nbs p;  2    3   &n bsp;<span style="font-weight: bold;">Younis</span><font face="MONOSPACE,COURIER NEW,COURIER">Mat Runs HS    BatAv   100 50    6   382    87    31.83     ; 0   3 </pre>
<span style="font-weight: bold;">After doing hours of research on stats, my friend Clobber has finally come up with <span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">one </span>Stat out of so many where Sehwag is ahead of Younis.......</span>


In my opinion i dont think that it is even right to comapre sehwag with younis. I'm not saying that one's better than the other, but it doesn't seem very sensible to compare them. They are both such different players that it is too hard to say who's better. Stats never tell the truth and i'm sure you know that khan.


Posted By: Majestic Khan
Date Posted: 25 February 2006 at 3:41pm
Here is Sehwag the great's batting performance stats in the 2nd innings of a test... when your team is under pressure and the wicket is difficult

Mat Runs HS BatAv 100 50 W BB BowlAv 5w Ct St
40   550  90  22.91  0   2   0  -   -          0  18  0

No 100s, just 2 50s and an average of 22????

Look at Younis

Mat Runs  HS  BatAv 100 50 W  BB    BowlAv 5w Ct St
39   1191 194  39.70  3    5   2  1/24  38.50    0  14 0

3 100s and 5 50s with a batting average almost double of Sehwag's

This is why Younis has won more matches than Sehwag for his country


Posted By: Majestic Khan
Date Posted: 25 February 2006 at 3:46pm
Originally posted by Jyothika


In my opinion i dont think that it is even right to comapre sehwag with younis. I'm not saying that one's better than the other, but it doesn't seem very sensible to compare them. They are both such different players that it is too hard to say who's better. Stats never tell the truth and i'm sure you know that khan.


I have few questions for you

  • How do you define better???? (both generally and in cricketing terms)
  • How should we compare a cricket player's performance with another player without stats?
  • If stats never tell the truth, then what are they for? and what else should be used for judgment????
  • When you guys dont have any answer in terms of stats or records, why do you start complaining about being sensible or stupid??
  • Is comparing Sehwag the street kid with Inzy or Ponting sensible?????? If not, why havent you posted such a comment in other threads before?


Posted By: Clobber
Date Posted: 25 February 2006 at 3:46pm
And yet lost EVERY match he has ever played against Australia...averaging 31


Posted By: Clobber
Date Posted: 25 February 2006 at 3:47pm
Originally posted by Majestic Khan

Originally posted by Clobber

first one I looked up actually and more than a little telling too


& this is exactly what you will never do for Dhoni & Co.


I have better things to do than make a fool of you - something you do perfectly well on your own anyway


Posted By: Majestic Khan
Date Posted: 25 February 2006 at 3:51pm
Originally posted by Clobber

Originally posted by Majestic Khan

Originally posted by Clobber

first one I looked up actually and more than a little telling too


& this is exactly what you will never do for Dhoni & Co.


I have better things to do than make a fool of you - something you do perfectly well on your own anyway


Now i get it!!!!

When the stats dont favour Indian players, they dont tell the truth...

Instead we start hearing words like fool, stupid, .....

Be a sport my friend


Posted By: Majestic Khan
Date Posted: 25 February 2006 at 3:53pm
Originally posted by Clobber

And yet lost EVERY match he has ever played against Australia...averaging 31


Actuallu the way he is drubbing India averaging 100+ and scoring 4 100s and 3 50s in just 6 matches is makint it so painful for you


Posted By: Clobber
Date Posted: 25 February 2006 at 4:08pm
need I remind you I am not Indian, merely objective?


Posted By: Majestic Khan
Date Posted: 25 February 2006 at 4:10pm
Yeah, calling people fool and stupid and so on shows where do you belong actually!!!!!!!!


Posted By: Clobber
Date Posted: 25 February 2006 at 4:13pm
and where would that be oh wise one?


Posted By: Jyothika
Date Posted: 26 February 2006 at 5:38pm
Originally posted by Majestic Khan



Originally posted by Jyothika

In my opinion i dont think that it is even right to comapre sehwag with younis. I'm not saying that one's better than the other, but it doesn't seem very sensible to compare them. They are both such different players that <span style="font-weight: bold;">it is too hard to say who's better. Stats never tell the truth and i'm sure you know that khan.</span>
I have few questions for you
  • How do you define better???? (both generally and in cricketing terms)
  • How should we compare a cricket player's performance with another player without stats?
  • If stats never tell the truth, then what are they for? and what else should be used for judgment????
  • When you guys dont have any answer in terms of stats or records, why do you start complaining about being sensible or stupid??
  • Is comparing Sehwag the street kid with Inzy or Ponting sensible?????? If not, why havent you posted such a comment in other threads before?


I didn't say any of them were better than the other. All i said was that you can't say who's better between them. I have posted many comments in other threads about it not being sensible. Sehwag is not a street kid so it would be nice if you could give him some respect too. He has immense talent and i'm sure you know it. Sehwag and younis are just not comparable. It is obvious that they are complete different players. I said that stats don't always tell the truth. Sehwag opens and younis bats down the order. It is quite likely for one of them to have a better average than the other becasue they bat at complete different positions. If you were to compare sehwag with salman butt and younis with dravid it may have been more sensible.     


Posted By: wiseguy
Date Posted: 27 February 2006 at 10:45am

Khan has rightly compared two players with the same number of matches, both been vice captains for their sides, but one featuring far more in teams wins compared to other, and thats what should make a player valuable! becos it counts to perform when the chips are down rather than when the cherry is new on asunny day! 



Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 02 March 2006 at 4:36am

hey clobber if sehwag is good

he didn't make many runs against pakistan did

if sehwag preformed so good against australia then he sholud be brad men against pakistan unfortunitly that didn't happen.

last tour of pakistan in australia was unfair beacuse pakistan was a young time they didn't even know wat team work was .

iam waiting for the 2008 tour of australia and i want to see how younis preforms then



Posted By: Rind
Date Posted: 03 March 2006 at 3:02pm
Yunis Khan


Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 03 March 2006 at 3:08pm
dont make excuses that pakistan were young when they played australia they had inzy,yousuf,khan who was shocking,akhtar,sami ect


Posted By: Majestic Khan
Date Posted: 05 March 2006 at 5:59am
Whatever you say, statistically or by performance in victories....

Younis is faar faaar faaaaar ahead of Sehwag....

Just look at the way Sehwag has failed miserably against England in the current test

... and look at Younis's match and series winning performances against England!!!!

Need i say more???


Posted By: SEHWAG NO.1
Date Posted: 06 March 2006 at 10:08pm
no so shut up


Posted By: Jyothika
Date Posted: 07 March 2006 at 4:39pm
Exactly.


Posted By: Majestic Khan
Date Posted: 07 March 2006 at 5:54pm
Why do u want people to just shut up?????????

why dont you have the courage to come up with stats or arguments?????????

It shows just how hollow are all your claims...



Posted By: Majestic Khan
Date Posted: 07 March 2006 at 5:56pm
Your players dont have guts, class or stats

and you dont have brains

you just have a toungue shouting shut u,p shut up........

why dont you keep your own mouth shut and start behaving!!!!!!!!


Posted By: minimurali
Date Posted: 07 March 2006 at 6:05pm
 Sehwag is still, in my mind, one of the most destructive opening batsmen in the world. No-one can play quite so aggresively, for me, as an opener in tests despite his recent lack of form against England and the like. He WILL bounce back!

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Posted By: minimurali
Date Posted: 07 March 2006 at 6:06pm

Originally posted by Majestic Khan

Your players dont have guts, class or stats

and you dont have brains

you just have a toungue shouting shut u,p shut up........

why dont you keep your own mouth shut and start behaving!!!!!!!!

 hey hey lets calm down children, before JP closes this thread or something.



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Posted By: SEHWAG NO.1
Date Posted: 07 March 2006 at 11:52pm
ye guy dont say too much be4 i beat the snot outta of u


Posted By: SEHWAG NO.1
Date Posted: 07 March 2006 at 11:54pm
and i dont want people to shut up, i just want all of u cocky pakistani praisers with your absurd comments to think logically for once and let people with brains have a say becuz sehwag is faaaaaaar faaaar faaaaaar the ur brother unis KHAN


Posted By: abubakar52
Date Posted: 08 March 2006 at 1:47am
Ok .... back to cricket This is Younis Khan at home

Mat Runs HS   BatAv 100 50   W    BB BowlAv 5w Ct St

33   984 81   35.14   0  &nbs p;7   0   -   & nbsp;   -    0 13 0


This is Sehwag at home


Mat Runs HS   BatAv 100 50   W    BB BowlAv 5w Ct St

41 1400 130   36.84   3  &nb sp;7 25 3/59   37.36 0 18 0



Posted By: abubakar52
Date Posted: 08 March 2006 at 1:48am
OO yea i forgot to mention this is ODI


Posted By: abubakar52
Date Posted: 08 March 2006 at 2:02am
So i am not really sure


Posted By: TANZ
Date Posted: 08 March 2006 at 10:01am
i have to say that younis is much better no doubt sawag is good but not as good as younis he is just calss

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Posted By: Majestic Khan
Date Posted: 15 March 2006 at 9:37am
Sehwag saved his skin in the 2nd innings in the 2nd test after 3 failures against England....

He was on course to join Laxman otherwise...


Posted By: Jyothika
Date Posted: 17 March 2006 at 6:10pm
Originally posted by Majestic Khan

Your players don't have guts, class or statsand you don't have brains you just have a toungue shouting shut u,p shut up........why don't you keep your own mouth shut and start behaving!!!!!!!!


Excause me! Did you just say that our players don't have guts, class or stats? All our players have guts, but we are not like you to always go arguing for everything and using our courage for stupid reasons. During the test match when shoaib said something to dravid, he didn't say anything back, is that what you mean by guts? There's a time and place for everything and our players know it. I'm not saying anything bad about your players, nor am i saying that all our players are perfect, but we have guts to show when neccessary. And about class and stats, i don't think you've either watched our players or looked at their stats. Over the years, our batting line up has been known to be one of the best. Class is something which you've got to look for. Not all your batsmen have class and even not all of us. But to tell the truth, i think that our batsmen have more class to show than yours.


Posted By: jumbo
Date Posted: 17 March 2006 at 6:21pm

younis

class  mat  inns  no  runs  hs  ave  bf  sr  100  50  4s  6s  ct  st
Tests   42   74   3   3439   267   48.43   6498   52.92   11   13   420   17   43   0
ODIs   128   123   16   3370   144   31.49   4483   75.17   1   23   249   28   70   0

sehwag

class  mat  inns  no  runs  hs  ave  bf  sr  100  50  4s  6s  ct  st
Tests   44   72   3   3703   309   53.66   4921   75.24   11   11   551   38   36   0
ODIs   141   138   7   4220   130   32.21   4314   97.82   7   20   586   59   57   0

now u only compare.

stats don't lie and infact sehwag is a handy bowler too.

note-not outs of younis r 16 so his avg. has increased by a great extent

 



Posted By: DRAVID FAN
Date Posted: 18 March 2006 at 1:20am
Originally posted by wiseguy

I am really sorry,yuvraj needs a lot to prove to be catagorized with dravid and younis khan!


Infact I have made a few groups


Sachin, Inzimam, Lara, Ponting...... Class acts


Dravid, Younis, Sangakara, Kalis,martyn,....... Dependable


Yuvraj, Butt, Pieterson,Rudolf, Hussy ....... Upcoming & Improving


Afridi, Sehwag, Dhoni, Gilchrist, Symonds, Hinds,......Pinch hitters



I am not being bias, but Dravid is a class act also. You should have not put the class dependable. You should have called it something else. Dravid doesn't come along with players like Sangakara and Younis. Even Kallis doesn't, or Gilchrist or Symonds. even Hussey should be in the dependable calss.

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Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 18 March 2006 at 2:35am
khan 16 not outs in odis and sehwag only 7 no wonder and sehwag still averages more by the way sehwag has the tougher job opeing the batting so looks like sehwag is 3 no 4 no 5 times better then your younis khan if he had no not outs in odis hes average would be just as bad as afridis and only one odi ton not good enough

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Posted By: TANZ
Date Posted: 20 March 2006 at 2:21pm
you may have a small point but overall he is a better cricketer then sawag he can bat extremly well (better then sawag) captin a side(better then sawag) feild (better then sawag) and the only thing sawag is better then him is in bowling 

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Posted By: jumbo
Date Posted: 20 March 2006 at 3:45pm
oh ho my friend tanz has judged that younis is a better captain than sehwag. i m impressed by the way u judge people in only 2 or 3 matches.keep judging the players i m with u.


Posted By: TANZ
Date Posted: 22 March 2006 at 10:58am
thank you for letting me know that. i don't think sawag will ever be a great captin for india. he is just not a player that can captin a side

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Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 22 March 2006 at 11:56am
sehwag has not been in great form lately but outside the sub-contenent he is a much better player he scored 195 or 180 in melbourne against australia and in england but khan i don't know 1 country other then inside the sub-contenent where he has scored a century hes been in better form in the past few months then sehwag but sehwag to me is a better player and hes only 24 or 26

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Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 26 March 2006 at 7:16am
First of all, Younis Khan has a better technique than Sehwag. Sehwag's averages lie! He doesn't deserve that outstanding 50+ Test average! He can't even move his feet. He's like my 5 year old cousin who just swings his bat without moving his feet.


Posted By: abubakar52
Date Posted: 26 March 2006 at 7:21am
Originally posted by SEHWAG NO.1

ye guy don't say too much be4 i beat the snot outta of u


Not very nice or respectful, thank you for telling us you are indian.


Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 26 March 2006 at 7:26am
Originally posted by abubakar52

Originally posted by SEHWAG NO.1

ye guy don't say too much be4 i beat the snot outta of u


Not very nice or respectful, thank you for telling us you are indian.


SEHWAG NO.1, you are representing your country very well! You are showing everyone what kind of people Indians really are!


Posted By: masterblaster
Date Posted: 28 March 2006 at 5:36am
I agree with saad and bakar indians always disrespect people all around the world.

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Posted By: Discoverer
Date Posted: 28 March 2006 at 7:20am

Originally posted by saadadvanced7

First of all, Younis Khan has a better technique than Sehwag. Sehwag's averages lie! He doesn't deserve that outstanding 50+ Test average! He can't even move his feet. He's like my 5 year old cousin who just swings his bat without moving his feet.

Thats y sehwag opens the innings and been a successful opener in both tests and ODIs.He has that virtue of not moving his feet and still scoring centuries,especially against pakistan!!!He loves paki bowlers...
Moreover he plays orthodox shots n thts wut makes him a special player. On the other hand younis comes at the wicket when the spinners r bowling n the field is open to accumulate runs in his kitty...and  his style of playing is really pathetic to watch.i guess most of his runs would come thru this nudges,pushes&inside edges. Sehwag was the topscorer in NZ under testing conditions where scoring on those swinging pitches made life miserable even for the hosts and where scoring 200 ensured victory!!!there are other countless instances like these...

 



Posted By: Clapo
Date Posted: 28 March 2006 at 7:34am

Originally posted by saadadvanced7

First of all, Younis Khan has a better technique than Sehwag. Sehwag's averages lie! He doesn't deserve that outstanding 50+ Test average! He can't even move his feet. He's like my 5 year old cousin who just swings his bat without moving his feet.

Sorry but i don't agree with you there saad. Obviously sehwag does deserve the 50+ average... otherwise he wouldn't have it.. but also considering he is an opening batsmen, which means his average is not inflated by Not Outs and he has kept the average for 42 test matches is outstanding by anyones record



Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 28 March 2006 at 7:34am

i pick sehwag cause he can play on any pitch unlike khan



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Posted By: Jyothika
Date Posted: 28 March 2006 at 6:36pm
Originally posted by masterblaster

I agree with saad and bakar indians always disrespect people all around the world.


Your not sort of right there because there is more than one indian person in this world, therefore who cannot sat that indians on a whole are disrespectful. Anyway, i don't see how indians can be more disrespectful than people from other ethnic backgrounds.


Posted By: muhammad-q
Date Posted: 28 March 2006 at 10:08pm

i think sehwag is better.. then younis but still younis isn't that bad

 



Posted By: abubakar52
Date Posted: 28 March 2006 at 10:18pm
Yes you are right..But you know Khan is not far behind.



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