Cook v Strauss
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Topic: Cook v Strauss
Posted By: minimurali
Subject: Cook v Strauss
Date Posted: 04 March 2006 at 7:12pm
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In light of Alastair Cook's recent debut against India, I'd like to say a big well done and that his form thus far vaguely resembles that of a certain Mr. Strauss. A fantastic left-handed opener in his first year, going on to big things. I know it's too early to say anything yet, but I think he could be breathing down some players necks for a starting place every match in no time. ------------- County Sim on extended break until I've got less work and more free time. When I have a specific date, I'll post it in the thread. |
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Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 04 March 2006 at 8:30pm
| both players made a ton on debut which is good cook looks like a great young talent for england now there starting to fine these young lads plunkett,panesear,cook and more talent on the way |
Posted By: minimurali
Date Posted: 04 March 2006 at 9:50pm
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Hopefully. England look to be a great side for the next few years with these young players coming through the ranks. ------------- County Sim on extended break until I've got less work and more free time. When I have a specific date, I'll post it in the thread. |
Posted By: quicky
Date Posted: 04 March 2006 at 10:22pm
yer cook gets my vote, half century in first innings then century in 2nd , he is amazing, when he played for essex against australia he made 214* i think so big things to come for him i thing, and cook could take england on to even bigger things.
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Posted By: Clobber
Date Posted: 05 March 2006 at 12:22am
| so what is the point of this thread? Who is better, Cook or Strauss (answer - Strauss for now), or is it Strauss is pretty good and so is Cook too???? |
Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 05 March 2006 at 12:26am
| well strauss iss better cause we have only seen cook play 1 match dosent mean hes gonna keep scoring like this but he will constantly make runs in matches |
Posted By: crick
Date Posted: 05 March 2006 at 12:38am
| i think if cook keeps scoring like this, then there is no way they can drop struass, or tresco, so it will have to be cook and tres, then strauss at 3, i think u need to get rid if vaughan, he's past his sell by date, and his body is giving up in him! |
Posted By: Clobber
Date Posted: 05 March 2006 at 12:40am
| yeah let's ditch useless Vaughan, Ashes winning captain, 15 test hundreds, what a waste of space he is |
Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 05 March 2006 at 12:49am
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what makes you think cook is gonna keep scoring tons every game if he does he will have a higher average then bradman so are you saying cook is going to be better then bradman |
Posted By: crownmethod
Date Posted: 05 March 2006 at 6:00am
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Cook scores too slow in cricket. I think he always has a strice rate of 20 ------------- |
Posted By: -JP-
Date Posted: 05 March 2006 at 6:06am
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Give the guy a chance. 7 days ago he was in Antigua. We have enough guys who score quickly enough (Freddie, Tres, KP, Geraint Jones) to allow those who don't score at a million runs a session as you seem to want all the time, to play their natural game. ------------- |
Posted By: minimurali
Date Posted: 05 March 2006 at 4:41pm
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Me senses a wee bit of sarcasm there. ------------- County Sim on extended break until I've got less work and more free time. When I have a specific date, I'll post it in the thread. |
Posted By: Clobber
Date Posted: 05 March 2006 at 5:16pm
| you think? |
Posted By: Clobber
Date Posted: 05 March 2006 at 5:17pm
He did score over 200 in a day against Australia last season |
Posted By: -JP-
Date Posted: 05 March 2006 at 6:22pm
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Crownmethod, I think you've been playing too much stickcricket, my friend. That's the only reason I can think you are expecting batsmen to hit every ball for 6 and score at 3000 runs an hour.
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Posted By: crick
Date Posted: 05 March 2006 at 6:48pm
| i dont support england, so from another countries point of view, if cook scores heavily in the rest of the series, then tres and struass are much more worth their place than vaughan! and the fact that i said he is past his sell by date (in my eyes) means it doesn't matter how many runs he has scored, its how many he will score! |
Posted By: bighitter
Date Posted: 05 March 2006 at 7:35pm
| Neither Trescothick or Strauss can be dropped. At the moment it seems as though no matter how poorly Vaughn plays he will keep his place because he has been in the team so long now and is a great captain. But, since he has taken control his average has gone from about 45 to about 30. An average of 30 is just not good enough for a number 3 batsmen. About cook, I think his style would compliment Trescothick's nicely as Tres scores quickly and Cook plays the patient innings. I can imagine an England batting colapse but Cook will be there keeping things together. Bell seems to crumble under pressure at the moment, he needs more experience. At present top 7 batting order would be Trescothick, Cook, Strauss, Vaughn, Pieterson, Flintoff, Jones. |
Posted By: crick
Date Posted: 05 March 2006 at 7:55pm
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i think tres or strauss have the capability of being great captains, and i would have the same 1st 7 as above, except for vuaghan, and jones, mine would go tres, cook, strauss, peiterson, collingwood, flintoff, prior |
Posted By: quicky
Date Posted: 05 March 2006 at 9:39pm
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i dnt think it is a gd idea to drop vaughan, gd point bout his knee yes perhaps, but he is a great captain, all of the players agree, and he has a great sense of authority and in truth is a great batsmen but just needs to work hard on his form. for me it would go tres,cook, strauss,vaughan,pieterson,fred,g.jones,hoggard,s.jones,harmi son,panesar but the thing is england have a few gd player up their sleeves at the moment, such as collingewoode,bell,matt prior, blackwell, plunkett, anderson, ali, solanki(odi player) etc, we got some good players up our sleeves, shame that thorpe retired kinda annoyed bout that, but he had a gd innings lol. |
Posted By: MenInBlue Rule
Date Posted: 05 March 2006 at 9:47pm
| Even if vaughan's not performing recently he does have the calibre which everone knows about.. but dropping him would just make the team so unexperienced and its just not possible. Flintoff led well in the first test but still michael vaughan has to be there.. i think ian bell should be dropped to check out cook and strauss should come at no. 3 |
Posted By: crownmethod
Date Posted: 06 March 2006 at 7:18am
I dont play to much stickcricket. Your just jealous because im so good ------------- |
Posted By: -JP-
Date Posted: 06 March 2006 at 1:15pm
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You missed the point of the It was a joke. ------------- |
Posted By: minimurali
Date Posted: 06 March 2006 at 4:56pm
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Personally I would go with Trescothick, Strauss, Vaughan, Cook, Pieterson, Flintoff, Read, Hoggard, S. Jones, Harmison, Panesar. What a team eh? ------------- County Sim on extended break until I've got less work and more free time. When I have a specific date, I'll post it in the thread. |
Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 07 March 2006 at 5:33am
| wheres collingwood and what about ian bell |
Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 07 March 2006 at 6:47am
That looks topheavy in openers mate. Alistair Cook is an old fashioned opener , straight , cautious and reliable - that's not what's required by your number 4. Ian Bell failed in the 1st test in India , but he was our best bat in Pakistan - short memories huh. Bell will be back , he's a tremendous prospect , just as Cook is too. Whilst Vaughan and Trescothick sit at home , Cook and Bell can feel secure in the knowledge that they'll get a decent run in this series. The same goes for Collingwood too - and no-one deserves his chance more than this lad - he's been so professional and has just bided his time without complaint - a lesson for all there methinks. ------------- Mental disintegration works for me !! |
Posted By: minimurali
Date Posted: 07 March 2006 at 8:07am
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Bell is a great prospect, but if Cook continues recent form the Bellster could be chopped! ------------- County Sim on extended break until I've got less work and more free time. When I have a specific date, I'll post it in the thread. |
Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 07 March 2006 at 8:21am
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No doubt that Cook will play on Thursday. The Indians and Chappell in particular will have studied the footage from the 1st Test.
He'll be looking for chinks in the armour of both Cook and Collingwood and we'll find out soon enough if he's succeeded. I've always said that it's best to judge a newcomer to test cricket in his 2nd year. If he continues to score runs or take wickets then you can be pretty sure he's the real deal. ------------- Mental disintegration works for me !! |
Posted By: krisdy
Date Posted: 07 March 2006 at 8:59am
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I think Cook will keep scoring ,,, he has got in him to be a good player ,,, from What I saw in first test.Bell is talented ,, no doubt , but I think he is confused when he is at the crease,,,. Is he basically an attacking player, he seems to curb his natural instincts ? ------------- "I go by present and present says - Sachin IS the BEST , Shewag is going to be the next best and Dhoni's is gonna rock the world with his brutal assaults - GOD help the rest of the world" |
Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 07 March 2006 at 9:05am
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Bell is pretty orthodox in his strokeplay. He's neither a grafter or a thrasher , his scoring tempo is ideal for test matches.
At the moment he seems to have trouble with the turning ball - not a good sign in India. I expect him to turn that around and make runs very soon. ------------- Mental disintegration works for me !! |
Posted By: minimurali
Date Posted: 07 March 2006 at 4:49pm
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He was our only really reliable force in Pakistan though... ------------- County Sim on extended break until I've got less work and more free time. When I have a specific date, I'll post it in the thread. |
Posted By: warnester
Date Posted: 07 March 2006 at 5:04pm
we are in no position to say afer 1 test ------------- |
Posted By: Jyothika
Date Posted: 07 March 2006 at 5:19pm
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I agree.
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Posted By: minimurali
Date Posted: 07 March 2006 at 7:35pm
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Well we can always take a wild guess can't we? ------------- County Sim on extended break until I've got less work and more free time. When I have a specific date, I'll post it in the thread. |
Posted By: minimurali
Date Posted: 11 March 2006 at 6:04pm
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Both did pretty poorly in the second test, first innings. Strauss really should have known better. ------------- County Sim on extended break until I've got less work and more free time. When I have a specific date, I'll post it in the thread. |
Posted By: warnester
Date Posted: 11 March 2006 at 6:20pm
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dont say i didnt tell you so |
Posted By: minimurali
Date Posted: 12 March 2006 at 1:12pm
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Oooooohhhh...I think warnester's a psychic, after England's second innings the openers were even worse! Where's Tres when you need him? ------------- County Sim on extended break until I've got less work and more free time. When I have a specific date, I'll post it in the thread. |
Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 12 March 2006 at 1:13pm
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trescothick and vaughn are gonna miss the odi series big loss for england ------------- Check out my blog http://crictopia.blogspot.com/ pretty bad though... |
Posted By: DRAVID FAN
Date Posted: 19 March 2006 at 3:53am
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To early to decide between Cook and Strauss. Strauss has been around for quite some time now. Cook has played just one Test which eh performed very well. He still needs more time. One Test is not enough. ------------- |
Posted By: DRAVID FAN
Date Posted: 19 March 2006 at 3:54am
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England have to focus a lot on the one dayers as they don't have Trescothick and Vaughan. ------------- |
Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 26 March 2006 at 7:10am
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Cook vs. Strauss?
I would certainly go with Strauss! Cook is way too new and unpredictable to compare with Strauss. |
Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 26 March 2006 at 7:12am
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cook scored 217* in a tour match against the aussies in england so he certainly can play against the best ------------- Check out my blog http://crictopia.blogspot.com/ pretty bad though... |
Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 26 March 2006 at 7:18am
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We are talking about Allastair Cook, right?
He's young and looks like he's got a bright future ahead of him! But I wouldn't take his early success as a guarantee that he can really play against the best and perform against the best. |
Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 26 March 2006 at 7:24am
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yes alastair cook i mentioned it in my post ------------- Check out my blog http://crictopia.blogspot.com/ pretty bad though... |
Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 26 March 2006 at 7:30am
| Alastair Cook is too young and unpredictable! Right now, it looks like he's got a promising and bright future. But you never know what could happen! He's too young and inexperienced to compare with Strauss. |
Posted By: dips_december
Date Posted: 01 April 2006 at 7:04am
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cook had a fantastic debut all right but we should remember that andrew strauss had a very good 1st yr of international cricket so he shud play
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Posted By: minimurali
Date Posted: 02 April 2006 at 4:11pm
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Yep Straussy is better, but Cook's start is remarkably similar to that of Mr Strauss. ------------- County Sim on extended break until I've got less work and more free time. When I have a specific date, I'll post it in the thread. |