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Topic: help with fast bowling
Posted By: samir
Subject: help with fast bowling
Date Posted: 12 March 2006 at 2:44pm
hi, im an aspiring fast bowler, and i have got some problems with my speed. my runup has a pretty good rhythm, i run about 10 paces before delivery. but i still cant get much speed. my coach said that its probably because my front foot doesnt stay straight during delivery. can someone help me solve this problem?

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Posted By: warnester
Date Posted: 12 March 2006 at 2:48pm
thats a hard one, that would have to be re organized by you, i dont think there is anything we can do there, dislocate your ankle?


Posted By: bighitter
Date Posted: 12 March 2006 at 8:06pm
Maybe, a longer run up? You may have good rhythem but not enough speed. Start with small steps and as you get closer to the crease increase your speed and length of stride. Don't forget a high arm and full follow through. Hope this helps a bit.


Posted By: samir
Date Posted: 13 March 2006 at 7:33am
thanx...i'll try this at practice today...appreciate it

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Posted By: Rambo_123UK
Date Posted: 13 March 2006 at 11:41am
Having your foot braced rather than bending it to cushion the shock will definitely give you a bit more pace but the most important thing is not losing your momentum as you get through the crease. It's no good running up like a madman if you lose all the forward momentum as you deliver the ball. How's your follow through? Does it take you a few paces down the wicket or do you come to a stop after delivering the ball? I'd suggest you video your action (from a couple of different angles if possible) to check it's ok. Seeing what I was doing wrong rather than just being told try this or that helped me sort out my rhythm and action, helping me bowl faster and with a better line. If you can watch the video with the coach, even better.

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Posted By: Smack
Date Posted: 13 March 2006 at 3:22pm

^ I'd agree that bracing the front leg would help you generate more pace. By bracing your front leg you can push your body weight into the delivery. You should try watching Brett Lee bowl then try copying it lol.



Posted By: samir
Date Posted: 13 March 2006 at 3:37pm
im not really sure about my follow through...i go a few paces, but thats more coz i do it deliberately than coz of my momentum. i say deliberately coz i always knew follow through was important, but i never knew why...i just did it anyway tho.

so basically, i stop after delivery, my momentum doesnt carry me on


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Posted By: minimurali
Date Posted: 13 March 2006 at 4:13pm

Originally posted by bighitter

Maybe, a longer run up? You may have good rhythem but not enough speed. Start with small steps and as you get closer to the crease increase your speed and length of stride. Don't forget a high arm and full follow through. Hope this helps a bit.

 A longer run-up but not too long. Make sure you hit top speed as you approach the crease but if you're run-up is too long you will get worn out and not bowl as quickly. Its finding the right length that is the key. There was another thread on this a while ago, I'll try and get the link.



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Posted By: minimurali
Date Posted: 13 March 2006 at 4:15pm

http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1138&PN=1 - http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1138&a mp;PN=1

 There's two pages of this, there's bound to be something useful in there.



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Posted By: quicky
Date Posted: 15 March 2006 at 8:13pm
wot i did was find a field, close my eyes, mark the point where i start then run and when it feels comfortable and your rythme is god bowl, doesnt matter where the ball goes, get a friend to watch where your delivery stride was and then mark it out, and see how many paces it was and then use that in future, its not just run up though, you may need to build up your muscles!!


Posted By: samir
Date Posted: 16 March 2006 at 2:35pm
yeah, thats pretty much wat i did....find an open field, run in till it felt comfy, and let go of the ball. course, my body strength is probably a factor, here....i guess i need to get stronger to bowl faster. have you guys got any ideas on wat to do about that?

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Posted By: samosa
Date Posted: 16 March 2006 at 5:00pm
My coach taught me to grunt like serena williams when I bowl, saying it will increase my bowling speed.  But now batsmen complain saying it is very distracting.

Especially Bando (who horribly disfugured me by smacking my head with the bat) claims that my shriek reminds him of a man being strangled to death.


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Posted By: Flavorz
Date Posted: 16 March 2006 at 5:26pm
How does that make you faster? 


Posted By: crownmethod
Date Posted: 17 March 2006 at 3:20am
Thats odd, so really, how does that make you bowl faster?

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Posted By: samosa
Date Posted: 17 March 2006 at 5:16am
http://www.roehampton.ac.uk/sparc/Deeleyarticle.asp

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Posted By: crownmethod
Date Posted: 17 March 2006 at 5:29am
Im going to try it one day. I hope it works.

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Posted By: RightHandBat
Date Posted: 17 March 2006 at 8:54am
To bowl faster, you should take a long runup which is comfortable for you. You can just jog in, or you can sprint, do what feels comfortable for you, personally for me, I jog in a generate the pace with my shoulder. I've hurt plently of batsman on the gloves, and toes. But again, do what feels best for you. As you start running in, take small paces, then as you get closer to the wicket, take larger paces, and just let it rip.

To get good pace, you should use a side-on bowling action, which is where you land your right foot (if you're a right arm bowler) parallel to the crease, which can also help you swing the ball away from the right hand batsman. It also helps to bowl close to the stumps, to improve your accuracy a little, and also cramp the batsman for room if you're bowling short to him.

Also, grunting does help you generate more pace, because of the effort you put into your delivery, I do it all the time, sometimes to put off a batsman, or a fast one directed at the body of the batsman. It also helps to have a strong upper body, eg. chest, shoulders, etc. This can improve your speed quite a bit.






Posted By: _JDR_
Date Posted: 17 March 2006 at 12:32pm

Originally posted by RightHandBat


Also, grunting does help you generate more pace, because of the effort you put into your delivery, I do it all the time, sometimes to put off a batsman, or a fast one directed at the body of the batsman.

Just grunting helps you bowl faster ? Really, ok, well if it works for you well done.

Not sure the "to put a batsman" off bit is in accordance with the spirit of the game however.

Samir - I wouldn't be too concerned about pace at this stage. Not sure of your age, however I assume you are in your teens. Concentrate at the moment on your technique. Line and length. As you get older you will get stronger and faster, you will also learn to do more with the ball. If you can get your line and length perfect you will be good enough. Just remind yourself every day who the most successful Fast bowler in Test cricket is.... and remember he isn't all that fast (relatively speaking of course)

Cheers.



Posted By: Rafay
Date Posted: 17 March 2006 at 8:41pm
I don't know if grunting makes you actually bowl faster but for some reason it makes me pull my action off smoothly with a follow-through and all. Sort of makes you think you are releasing that little burst of pent up energy. I used to grunt pretty much every ball before but now I just don't really feel like I need to, no idea why, but it just doesn't seem like it would help. On other days, however, I grunt without even knowing it. 


Posted By: quicky
Date Posted: 17 March 2006 at 10:15pm

i grunt and i think it hepls me bowl quicker, it feels as though a am putting power and pressure into my action, look at shot putters when they go for there launch they grunt, i don't know wot it is but in martial arts they teach to make this noise. it just works. apparen'tly i grunt alot wen i bowl without knowing it, brett lee does it, also when a bowl a bad ball my friends know wne it coming because i don't grunt Very funny.



Posted By: quicky
Date Posted: 17 March 2006 at 10:16pm
its not how fast u bowl its where you bowl


Posted By: RightHandBat
Date Posted: 18 March 2006 at 6:31am
Grunting puts energy into your delivery. But, as JDR said, you should use Line & Length, today I wasn't bowling fast at all, and finished with figures of 5 overs, 1 maiden, 1/13. It's all about your Line & Length. If you can get it right, with some off cut, or leg cut, then you'll do good.

Today, I had the pleasure of dealing with a wet ball. As captain, my coach asked my to open the bowling, I got some of the best off and leg cut. It was great. Although, I wasn't proud of my wicket, it was a full toss, and the guy edged it to the wicket keeper. I was disappointed in him. But, as a fast bowler, I love the sound of the bails breaking, rather then a catch in the field, unless its an edge to the slips or something.




Posted By: warnester
Date Posted: 25 April 2006 at 8:56pm
where shoudl you point your foot when fast bowling? is it just where you land, i have a perfect body position but my left foot is pointing towards probably a metre wide of leg stump im still accurate though any help?


Posted By: minimurali
Date Posted: 25 April 2006 at 9:01pm
 I think mine points straight towards the wickets but I'm not too sure.

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Posted By: warnester
Date Posted: 25 April 2006 at 9:09pm
yeh but pollocks points to offstump, harmison wide of offstump and brett lee whatever he fancies


Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 25 April 2006 at 10:00pm

depends what action you use. when bowling with a side on action u get more pace, when bowling front on you get more reverse swing and less injuries and better direction. i use to bowl front on and get pace cause i was strong in the arm.

To get stronger samir, do 10 or 20 push ups everyday, 10 for starters, eat meat and drink milk and i hope my tips above help you.



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Posted By: Rambo_123UK
Date Posted: 26 April 2006 at 9:10am
Your front arm is more important than your front foot for line. It acts like a rudder andhelps you swing through in that direction. It should be pointing where you want the ball to go.

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Posted By: retterimp
Date Posted: 26 April 2006 at 3:36pm
i have a run up of about 26 yards, with a side-on action, and this helps me get great momentum and makes me think that i'm releasing the ball when i'm at the peak of my run up. Its all about what feels good, really. To get good pace, first try bracing your front leg. When going to bowl, i try to consciously think about putting my front leg high and down powerfully on the ground. This way when you get into the coil, you will not forget to brace your front leg. After you have that mastered, you should use the leading arm. I have seen Wasim Akram use the leading arm and I think that's how he generates most of his pace(roughly 84-87mph) after running in for abt 15 yards.

 I havent been able to use my leading arm fully though. Can someone let me know abt how to use the leading arm? Can you practice using it or do you just 'have to be born with fast twitch muscles'?

 How do you guys practise the small processes? For e.g. do you guys first practice only bracing the front leg, and only once you've mastered it, do you move on to using the leading arm, or all at once?


Posted By: aston_martin
Date Posted: 02 May 2006 at 11:15pm

I think that you shouldn't try to bowl faster. I am a medium pace bowler and I take wickets - when I try to increase the pace I start messing it up big time. Focus on line and length.

Why spend hours trying to bowl faster when you can just sneak a good one through his defences?



Posted By: samir
Date Posted: 04 May 2006 at 4:51pm
i found this site:

http://coachesinfo.com/category/cricket/44/

seems interesting, though a bit technical. it makes it sound that by following all the best methods, we can become great bowlers.


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Posted By: retterimp
Date Posted: 04 May 2006 at 7:02pm
thanks a lot samir for the great website...dont mind a little techie article!!


Posted By: warnester
Date Posted: 06 May 2006 at 11:23am
how do i get more accuracy consistently on offstump? you can say practise and blah blah but practise cannpt make up for that 1 or 2 balls in an over that get tonked for 4 as your ball has swung more than you expected


Posted By: mazzybabe.uk
Date Posted: 06 May 2006 at 2:33pm
well you could simply use a scrambled seam

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Posted By: crownmethod
Date Posted: 06 May 2006 at 2:38pm
How do you bowl with a scrambled seam?

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Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 06 May 2006 at 2:42pm
Sometime's when I bowl my pace im not releasing the ball on time,on some occasions I release it and it goes 10 metres plus then what it should be,I think I bowl about 50kp/h with a cricket ball,I have a deadly yorker and bouncer and I can bowl good meidum pace.

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Posted By: crownmethod
Date Posted: 06 May 2006 at 2:44pm
You can bowl everything well, can't you?

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Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 06 May 2006 at 2:47pm
Of course I can,im the greatest all round cricketer on the earth haven't you heard,I can bat left handed/right handed,I can bowl left arm chinaman,unorthodox,fast,fast-medium,medium,leg spin,off spin,play every shot in the book surely you should have known all that by now

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Posted By: crownmethod
Date Posted: 06 May 2006 at 2:53pm
Thats not funny you know. Lame Joke.

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Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 06 May 2006 at 2:56pm
I wasn't trying to be funny,im serious I actually can do all those things not all perfect though,and thats a tounge poking out its not a funny face thing.By the way congratulations on 1500 magical posts!

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Posted By: cricko
Date Posted: 06 May 2006 at 3:43pm
50km/h is hardly fast.


Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 06 May 2006 at 3:47pm
I know but im only 13,and thats ok speed but I think I bowl quicker then that im not sure  maybe even slower for all  I know

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Posted By: warnester
Date Posted: 07 May 2006 at 10:09am

im 14 and i am one of the 4 in the seam attack in the team and we all bowl about 45-60mph varying on wind etc.



Posted By: mazzybabe.uk
Date Posted: 07 May 2006 at 10:13am
I'm 15 and I bowl about 50-65 on average but when I'm really going for it I can get it over 70 and about 5 different slower balls

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Posted By: mazzybabe.uk
Date Posted: 07 May 2006 at 10:15am
Originally posted by cricko

50km/h is hardly fast.
50 kmph is slow thats about 20mph you know

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Posted By: cricko
Date Posted: 07 May 2006 at 10:39am
Well it 30mph, but I didn't want to just say that's slow, it's a bit harsh.


Posted By: mazzybabe.uk
Date Posted: 07 May 2006 at 10:40am
it is slow though

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Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 09 May 2006 at 7:58am
But im not exactly sure how slow  I ball maybe 65kp/h max

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Posted By: Leezy
Date Posted: 09 May 2006 at 12:19pm
Even 65 kmph is slow, my youger brother is 14 and he probably bowls about 50-60mph at least

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Posted By: freddieflintoff
Date Posted: 09 May 2006 at 9:25pm
i m a fast bowler and bowl around 50-70 mph depending on my aggression i can bowl outswingers very well but cant bowl the inswinger too well, any tips?


Posted By: Flavorz
Date Posted: 09 May 2006 at 9:34pm
I can bowl quite fast now, I get about 71mph on average and my extra fast delivery, which I use very rarely as a surprise is 78mph.

I'm wondering though, I jump off my right foot (I'm a right handed bowler) and my coach said it should be on the left foot to get my legs in a better position.
I don't know how to do this properly and I'm just gonna stick jumping off the right foot, will this be ok?


Posted By: freddieflintoff
Date Posted: 09 May 2006 at 9:36pm
well i jump off the right foot but am more front on in my action, stick with what is best for you i say.


Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 10 May 2006 at 12:38am
You guys are slow, I think i can make 80mph and I am 16, have mighty strong arms though. Your run up affects your pace as well so try to get a smooth quick one to increase pace like lee.

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Posted By: Rambo_123UK
Date Posted: 10 May 2006 at 7:53am
Jump off the left foot? I don't understand that. A right handed bowler has to jump off the right foot to get the left leg around and planted to pivot over for the delivery.

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Posted By: The CCC
Date Posted: 10 May 2006 at 11:40am
If you jump off the right foot, it's gonna be really hard to get in to a side on position to get away swing.
You will also be putting extra pressure on your left knee which isn't good . But, having said all that, stick to the action that suits you best.Everyone's different and I'm sure sctions of people like shaun tait and jeff thomson aren't recomended by coaches


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Posted By: Rambo_123UK
Date Posted: 10 May 2006 at 2:06pm
Yeah, I went outside and took a couple of mock run-ups to see what I was doing, because when I thought about it, you have to come off the left foot to get the right foot to come down in the right place first before you plant your left foot to pivot on, but it's something you just do naturally and don't think about - at least, it is with me.

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Posted By: The CCC
Date Posted: 10 May 2006 at 2:16pm
Just a word of advice. NEVER try javellings. It'll completely mess up you run up.

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Posted By: Leezy
Date Posted: 10 May 2006 at 2:18pm
Spin wizard which county do you play for mate?

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Posted By: Flavorz
Date Posted: 10 May 2006 at 4:19pm
^ Exactly.
Join India, you'll be express.


Posted By: freddieflintoff
Date Posted: 10 May 2006 at 4:27pm

Originally posted by spin wizard

You guys are slow, I think i can make 80mph and I am 16, have mighty strong arms though. Your run up affects your pace as well so try to get a smooth quick one to increase pace like lee.

80mph and you should be on the brink of becoming the new international seamer, considering im 2 years younger than you i am a good bowler to be hitting 60mph consistently. If you bowl 80mph you should be a great seamer when your older, good luck being the new england fast bowler



Posted By: The CCC
Date Posted: 10 May 2006 at 5:32pm
I'm nearly 16 and I'm not even sure if I can bowl 60mph...No chance for me as an pace bowler, better stick with legspin

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Posted By: Hugo
Date Posted: 10 May 2006 at 6:34pm
being able to bowl at 80mph is quick however your never going to take wickets unless u can move the ball around off the seam or get a bit of swing


Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 11 May 2006 at 11:54am
How do you know how fast you can bowl,you dont have a speed gun,your saying 80mp/h thats what you think but it could be 60mp/h

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Posted By: Flavorz
Date Posted: 11 May 2006 at 4:10pm
Becuase coaches tell you an estimate and they've experienced speed guns etc so they have a rough idea on your speed.


Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 11 May 2006 at 10:02pm

well AK, I am quick, thats that. I have a quick arm action that helps but I spin so that doesn't matter me. I stopped pacing 2 years ago but I wasn't quick back then and I use to land badly on my knee, thats why I quited it but now and then I bowl couple balls and I bowl them quick a s I said 80 mph, thats from the hand at not after pitching. and by the way 80 mph isn't quick

I can average as well. By the way ak, how did you measure your speed, was it out of the hands are at the batsman point are after pitching.



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Posted By: freddieflintoff
Date Posted: 12 May 2006 at 9:08am

you are back to pace then? that would be the right decision because if you are bowling 80mph you might as well concentrate on that and not anything else. except batting



Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 12 May 2006 at 10:09am
Im a slow pace bowler I reckon,thats why I stick with spin

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Posted By: Leezy
Date Posted: 12 May 2006 at 11:44am

80mph is rapid for a 16 yr old, it's rapid even for adult minor counties!

Think of it this way - An international fast bowler will generally bowl between 85 and 90 mph, with a few exceptions.



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Posted By: freddieflintoff
Date Posted: 12 May 2006 at 2:57pm
well chaminda vaas is bowling at around 80mph at this present moment, so spin wizard should be great international seamer when he grows up.


Posted By: freddieflintoff
Date Posted: 12 May 2006 at 4:35pm
spin wizard do you play for your countries u19 team? with 80mph you should be there quite easy. Any tips on how to get quicker? by the way i alreeady do weights and use a punchbag so am pretty strong.


Posted By: mazzybabe.uk
Date Posted: 12 May 2006 at 4:48pm
run in to the crease faster or get really relay pumped up think images of Steps coming back and Emmerdale that should get you angry enough or there is always self hypnotism

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Posted By: freddieflintoff
Date Posted: 12 May 2006 at 4:49pm
nope, its ok, emmerdake and steps have done it


Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 12 May 2006 at 6:26pm

well freddieflintoff I am training for national u-19 at the moment but the only reason I was picked is because I do leg spin and right now, I am the best spinner the side has and I won't go back to pace to throw away my place because there are very good pacers there, 2 left armers and a very quick tall right armer. I figure he can make 90mph cause he is very quick on the slowest surface.

Anyway, to get quicker, try using a smooth run up like lee and bring over your arm quick (this is why I do 80mph) and release quick because the speed of a ball is measured at release.



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Posted By: warnester
Date Posted: 13 May 2006 at 10:15am
90 mph, no way, not at u19, he'd be on the verge of the national team, or possibly in it, i think you could make it international at pace spin wizard, i never knew you bowled 80mph, thats the same speed as sri lankas fastest bowler.


Posted By: Leezy
Date Posted: 13 May 2006 at 8:58pm

No offence mate, but we are privelaged enough to have some of the U19 internationals play for our first team at the moment (Andrew Miller, Stephen Mullaney, Karl Brown and Nick Woods)

Mill and mull both bowl for them, and they only bowl about 70 (They are Fast-Medium Bowlers)  and they inform me that the fastest man in the squad they have seen on the speed gun only bowls about 80mph.

Woodsy is a fantastic leggy, who turns it square and also bowls regularly.  So I think we would all appreciate it if you kept your blatent lies to yourself.

Leezy



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Posted By: Flavorz
Date Posted: 13 May 2006 at 9:16pm
Originally posted by spin wizard

well freddieflintoff I am training for national u-19 at the moment but the only reason I was picked is because I do leg spin and right now, I am the best spinner the side has and I won't go back to pace to throw away my place because there are very good pacers there, 2 left armers and a very quick tall right armer. I figure he can make 90mph cause he is very quick on the slowest surface.

Anyway, to get quicker, try using a smooth run up like lee and bring over your arm quick (this is why I do 80mph) and release quick because the speed of a ball is measured at release.



I found that very funny indeed!
You obviously don't know how to tell the speeds.
90 mph at under 19 level is hilarious.
In the U 19 world cup there was nobody in 90, the highest was about 85mph and you're telling me this guy can bowl express.

You probably bowl at about 50mph if your views on speed are this distorted.


Posted By: Leezy
Date Posted: 13 May 2006 at 9:17pm
Think you're right on the money there flav. dunno who this guy thinks he is!

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Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 14 May 2006 at 7:50pm

whatever you all say, think about it, correy collymore bearly runs up and don't go over quick and bowl at 80 mph. This guy run up is long and has a quick arm action and is tall. He has no control what soever thats why he isn't in national. On short boundary, slips does be back nearly to the boundary for him. Maybe I exaggerated a bit too much but maybe he could make 88 the most.

Remeber Jerome Taylor use to bowl at 93 mph when he was 19 years.



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Posted By: warnester
Date Posted: 14 May 2006 at 7:52pm
thats still bloody fast


Posted By: Hugo
Date Posted: 14 May 2006 at 8:04pm
when people say what speed they bowl you normally have to take away 10 Mph because everyone over rates themselves as a fast bowler


Posted By: quicky
Date Posted: 14 May 2006 at 10:14pm
i am 14 and just touchin on 60 i think, freddieflintoff as in the person chatting on here, is ur first name ashley??


Posted By: Hugo
Date Posted: 14 May 2006 at 10:22pm
the trouble is there is no way of really guessing your bowling speed. so all the people claiming they can bowl over 80Mph if you dont have speed gun evidence then i, and alot of other peopole on this forum, are not going to take you seriously


Posted By: freddieflintoff
Date Posted: 16 May 2006 at 4:42pm

Originally posted by quicky

i am 14 and just touchin on 60 i think, freddieflintoff as in the person chatting on here, is ur first name ashley??

no mate, most of the people i know range from 50-60mph, my first name is steven



Posted By: dips_december
Date Posted: 18 May 2006 at 6:40am
i am 14 and can bowl at around 65mph thats what my coach said ,but now i am a spinner

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Posted By: warnester
Date Posted: 18 May 2006 at 5:06pm
thats a bad choice


Posted By: Rambo_123UK
Date Posted: 18 May 2006 at 7:59pm
Well, with the help of a video camera and stopwatch I calculated a speed of 67mph (via a time-distance equation) for myself. I'm a bit faster than some of the others on the team, but a bit slower than the top two bowlers, one of whom is seriously quick for our level. I'd rate myself about joint 3rd fastest on the team. My spin bowling is terrible, not because I can't get the ball to turn (I can bowl a bit of leg or offspin), but because I can't get it to land where I want it to. I'll stick to being a medium pacer, thanks.

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Posted By: warnester
Date Posted: 21 May 2006 at 8:37pm
you should head over to the spin section for tips


Posted By: murali22
Date Posted: 26 May 2006 at 10:58pm

in international cricket is the ball measured from the hand? cos this would make them seriously rapid as the pitches that the pros play on are like concrete.

 



Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 30 May 2006 at 11:51pm

Originally posted by murali22

in international cricket is the ball measured from the hand?

Dead right mate. It is measured from the hands. Thats why I always try to tell persons to bring over quick and release quick to gain pace.



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Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 31 May 2006 at 8:00am

Wow Jerome Taylor touched 93 mp/h at just 19,he must of been the quickest 19 year old of all time how fast does he bowl now 85-95 mp/h im guessing maybe.



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Posted By: Hugo
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 9:59am
no offence AK but how is that ever going to help us with fast bowling


Posted By: bond21
Date Posted: 20 December 2007 at 10:52am
i dont believe how many of you are so gullible.
 
If the guy says he bowls 80mph that means he bowls at about 50mph.
 
Unless hes been tested by the proper speed gun, its a pure guess.
 
 
All bowlers are slower than you think, not everyone can bowl 160kmh when theyre 18.....


Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 20 December 2007 at 4:10pm
Jerome Taylor clocked 93 when he was 19. I know it's not 160 but that's still very fast! Taylor is slower these days because of injury to his back in the past and having to remodel his action but he is still consistently around 87 mph these days.

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Posted By: revolutions
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 5:22pm
Its amazing how quick people actually think they are. Admittedly i thought i was bowling 70mph i got myslf speed gunned it was 55mph at the batsman so probably 60 out of the hand  which is  quite slow when compared to internationals but considering im am 15 years of age its reasonable. But i know i can get wickets from my extra bounce and swing. In the words of Glen Mcgrath the greatest seam bowler "speed is overated"


Posted By: drandhawa
Date Posted: 07 July 2008 at 12:18am
Yeh i
I'm 6ft !in, and I have terrible pace. Help
Cry


Posted By: rigobear
Date Posted: 24 July 2008 at 5:41pm
If you try and build your stength and muscle mass your pace will increase.


Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 25 July 2008 at 7:51pm
So funny people was telling you can't clock such fast speeds at a young age.  Young Kemar Roach of the Windies clocked 87 against Aussie at age 19 and he can bowl faster than that too.  I remember seeing Jerome Taylor clock 90+ at that age too.  There was a young boy in the standford 2020 tournament in it's first year at age 16 and he was touching at 80 mph.  Pascal at 19 was touching 87.

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Posted By: drandhawa
Date Posted: 25 July 2008 at 8:41pm
Besides building strength, is there anything that I can do with my action or the way I hold the ball... anything to increase pace?


Posted By: NZ_Fast
Date Posted: 26 July 2008 at 8:45am
I wish people would bother to look through previous threads about pace bowling, saves us repeating ourselves. Try watching this video http://www.metacafe.com/watch/299643/cricket_master_class_bowling/

If you have any more questions after that, just ask away!


Posted By: drandhawa
Date Posted: 26 July 2008 at 5:16pm
My bad, will do so.


Posted By: drandhawa
Date Posted: 01 August 2008 at 12:50am
Yeah, just saw the video. I have actually seen it many times. I just want to know how to use my back and shoulders to increase my pace. pople have told me to use my back by leaning down, but I always loose my accuracy with it.



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