Harbhajan Singh v Muttiah Muralitharan
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Topic: Harbhajan Singh v Muttiah Muralitharan
Posted By: warnester
Subject: Harbhajan Singh v Muttiah Muralitharan
Date Posted: 23 March 2006 at 4:33pm
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in my eyes, harbhajan, but well tat was a bit obvious wasnt it as he is my favourite player along with flintoff and warne. Minimurali will obviously go for murali, but put aside the wickets and the averages as harbhajan is young, murali is oldish. ONE ON ONE, who would win, who would rip it, who would chuck? |
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Posted By: minimurali
Date Posted: 23 March 2006 at 4:37pm
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Damn right there warnester, Murali all the way! ------------- County Sim on extended break until I've got less work and more free time. When I have a specific date, I'll post it in the thread. |
Posted By: Clobber
Date Posted: 23 March 2006 at 4:54pm
| Murali, no contest |
Posted By: jumbo
Date Posted: 23 March 2006 at 5:12pm
| of course its murali. harbhajan has a lot to learn from him and he needs to be conistent like him. |
Posted By: DRAVID FAN
Date Posted: 23 March 2006 at 9:37pm
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Harbhajan is a good bowler, but not of Murli's class. He is a normal good bowler. He is not even up to Kumble's class. He has to learn a lot. He is not very consistent. This is a true fact and I also find Murli a better bowler than Warne, but close contest. Warne is catching up in my rankings. But still it is opinon. Both are the world's greatest spinners at the moment. Warne is the greatest leg-spinner and Murli is the greatest off- spinner. of this decade. ------------- |
Posted By: Mahrukh
Date Posted: 23 March 2006 at 9:41pm
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Undoubtably Murali Harbajan in far away from him . He can just bowl well on the home grounds. ------------- Life has changed |
Posted By: crownmethod
Date Posted: 23 March 2006 at 10:49pm
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Murali is way better, he frightens the batsman where as Singh doesn't. And Murali has more wickets than him. So Murali is way better. ------------- |
Posted By: SEHWAG NO.1
Date Posted: 23 March 2006 at 11:47pm
| i think the better question is who has the better doorsa, as murali is the obvious choice of who is the better offspinner |
Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 24 March 2006 at 3:22am
murali but bhajii is still only 25 years old with 200+ test wickets if he can get back to form and play till 35 and take 60 test wickets every year it would mean at 35 he'll have 800 test wickets ------------- Check out my blog http://crictopia.blogspot.com/ pretty bad though... |
Posted By: abubakar52
Date Posted: 24 March 2006 at 3:28am
| Wow then I would rank Harbajhan better on account of what ANIL KUMBLE said |
Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 24 March 2006 at 3:38am
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but....harbhajan singh is not in good form even though he played well in the last test he average 30 with the ball so he could get 50 wickets an year meanining till 35 700wickets he'll probably get thats if he plays every test and is not in good form if hes in good form throughout the rest of hes career then 800 ------------- Check out my blog http://crictopia.blogspot.com/ pretty bad though... |
Posted By: abubakar52
Date Posted: 24 March 2006 at 3:43am
| Thats really good and Harbajhan has not been suspected for chucking has he? |
Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 24 March 2006 at 3:48am
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he did in 2001 or something ------------- Check out my blog http://crictopia.blogspot.com/ pretty bad though... |
Posted By: abubakar52
Date Posted: 24 March 2006 at 3:52am
| O so his wicket count by the time hes 35 will be 700-800 wickets if he stays in form but if he gets in even better form then he is right now he could get 1000 wickets!! |
Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 24 March 2006 at 3:53am
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i doubt 1000 in odis hes nearly got 200 he averages 30. something in tests and 30. something in odis ------------- Check out my blog http://crictopia.blogspot.com/ pretty bad though... |
Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 24 March 2006 at 4:22am
Nobody consistently takes 60 wickets a year you fool...Warne, McGrath, Garner, Murali, Donald, Lillee have all been able to do it, but they are all greats.. Plus guys get injured, lose form, play less tests some years. Not Possible.
Warne is the best ever spinner, followed by Syd Barnes,Subhash Gubte , O'Reilly, Muralitharan...
Singh is not on that list Matey. ------------- |
Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 24 March 2006 at 4:30am
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who is subhash gubte and wheres kumble on that list well warney takes 70 wickets or so a year and surely singh can get atleast 40 to 50 every year ------------- Check out my blog http://crictopia.blogspot.com/ pretty bad though... |
Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 24 March 2006 at 4:34am
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Your cricket knowledge is so limited and it does not surprise me...young people are ignorant..You think only modern/current players are the best..well, look him up and read about him.
Kumble is one of the most successful Medium Pacers in the history of the game.
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Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 24 March 2006 at 4:42am
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well sorry that my cricket knowledge is not as good as yours im only 13 what u expect me to know everything about cricket i got into cricket at the age of 11 so shut up with your smartass comments ------------- Check out my blog http://crictopia.blogspot.com/ pretty bad though... |
Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 24 March 2006 at 4:47am
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Tell me to shut up, you say WHO IS GUPTE??
Well why don't you do some research....the whole point for me to come on this forum was to speak about cricket with people who know what they are talking about, and there are guys like that on the forum for sure. But you my friend are defeating that purpose, by pointing out the obvious or asking silly questions...I would rather be a smarta** then a dumba** like you! ------------- |
Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 24 March 2006 at 4:52am
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could u shut up i just want to talk cricket on this forum then when u come along u have to say some smartass comment that really ****es me off im starting to hate this forum cause of u had u not been on this forum this would have been the best cricket forum ever ------------- Check out my blog http://crictopia.blogspot.com/ pretty bad though... |
Posted By: abubakar52
Date Posted: 24 March 2006 at 5:03am
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Alright people ease up and its not Anil Kumble's fault he has limited knowledge he is young also Gupte was a great bowler look at his stats for test bowling
mat balls runs wkts ; bbi & nbsp;bbm ave 36 11284 4403 149 10/223 29.55 2.34 He played for India, Bengal, Mumbai, Rajasthan, Trinidad EDIT: Now its a bit better. He took 149 sickets and had twelwe 5 wicket hauls eight 4 wicket hauls and one 10 |
Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 24 March 2006 at 5:05am
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he took 4403 wickets! that cant be right ------------- Check out my blog http://crictopia.blogspot.com/ pretty bad though... |
Posted By: abubakar52
Date Posted: 24 March 2006 at 5:08am
| NO thats the runs!! sorry its a little wrecked |
Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 24 March 2006 at 5:11am
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ok 149 wickets ------------- Check out my blog http://crictopia.blogspot.com/ pretty bad though... |
Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 24 March 2006 at 5:19am
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So what do you think abiut Gupte not cry baby.. Have a cry seriously, if you can't take it then leave, nobody is asking you to stay, all of your comments are worthless. ------------- |
Posted By: abubakar52
Date Posted: 24 March 2006 at 5:22am
| What did I do wrong? |
Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 24 March 2006 at 5:24am
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Nah not you Abu Bakar, you are good.
ANIL KUMBLE,,, gettting on my nerves.
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Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 24 March 2006 at 5:28am
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see this is what i mean u **** me off with your have a cry your comments are worthless ------------- Check out my blog http://crictopia.blogspot.com/ pretty bad though... |
Posted By: abubakar52
Date Posted: 24 March 2006 at 5:28am
| Oh ok Sorry a question did Gupte have perfect 10 wickets in test ? Thats what it appears to be in his stats. |
Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 24 March 2006 at 5:29am
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your getting on my nerves ------------- Check out my blog http://crictopia.blogspot.com/ pretty bad though... |
Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 24 March 2006 at 5:31am
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if its in firstclass probably cause it says bbi which mean best bowling figures in an innings so that should be in first class ------------- Check out my blog http://crictopia.blogspot.com/ pretty bad though... |
Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 24 March 2006 at 5:32am
Only Laker and Kumble achieved that feat of 10 in an inning. ------------- |
Posted By: jumbo
Date Posted: 24 March 2006 at 6:00am
| miniwarney why r u after kumble. he has taken 500 wickets and u saying he is a medium pacer is rubbish u must not have seen collingwood's and bell's wicket. |
Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 24 March 2006 at 6:06am
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He got 498 of his wickets bowling medium pace. ------------- |
Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 24 March 2006 at 6:51am
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Murali is obsessed with getting guys out bowler. He always pitches his doosra outside leg so it can spin on and hit the stumps, and with his offie he tries to get it to spin on to the stumps. Murali gets no caught behinds, he go this first caught behind in a test in the series versus India 05/06 !!!!!!! ------------- |
Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 24 March 2006 at 6:58am
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thats amazing after 560 odd wickets and his first caught behind came last year ------------- Check out my blog http://crictopia.blogspot.com/ pretty bad though... |
Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 24 March 2006 at 7:07am
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Yep, a few tests ago for Murali, absolutely amazing.. Warne, MacGill who are to big turners of the ball aswell have quite a few Caught behinds..so it is a big surprise. It defiantely has to do with the lines he bowls and also the amount of doosras he bowls (MacGill and Warne turn the ball away from the right hander generally) ------------- |
Posted By: wiseguy
Date Posted: 24 March 2006 at 12:14pm
| Infact there is no surprise, offspinners get their wickets by bowled or LBW, where as if they have or allowed Doosra then there is a posibility of of gettin caught behind or stumps, infact its easier to play an offspinner compared to a leggie. The most round the leg bowled outs have been achieved by warne, and I don't think thats a crime as its within the rules and he turns the ball so much. |
Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 24 March 2006 at 12:17pm
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Definately not a crime, but you would think Murali SHOULD have more Caught behinds...If you think about if left handers are not taht uncommon these days...4 of he 7 top order batsmen in Aust. are lefties. ------------- |
Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 24 March 2006 at 12:20pm
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gilly,hussey,katich and ? ------------- Check out my blog http://crictopia.blogspot.com/ pretty bad though... |
Posted By: wiseguy
Date Posted: 24 March 2006 at 12:25pm
| But we all know the controversies with murali in australia, if the matches were played on even fields he would have been more successful, otherwise he doesnt get too many lefties to bowl at, infact he is unfortunate to have bowled to righties more. |
Posted By: jumbo
Date Posted: 24 March 2006 at 12:32pm
| and in most of the teams lefties r mostly the openers. so the may not survive till murali is brought |
Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 24 March 2006 at 1:09pm
NAh mate in tests..Langer, Hayden, Hussey, Gilchrist. ------------- |
Posted By: abubakar52
Date Posted: 25 March 2006 at 3:27pm
| All of those are very good strong Australian batsmen. Its as if the foundation of the team is of left-handers . |
Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 25 March 2006 at 3:31pm
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west indies and sri lanka are full of left handers is there more left hand batsmen then right? ------------- Check out my blog http://crictopia.blogspot.com/ pretty bad though... |
Posted By: abubakar52
Date Posted: 25 March 2006 at 3:41pm
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I don't think so I still believe there is more right-handed. I am not sure though.
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Posted By: saadadvanced7
Date Posted: 26 March 2006 at 9:23am
| This is no doubt that stupidest thread I have ever seen! How in the world can you compare Murali with Harbajhan? Muralitharan is one of the finest spinners in history...and one of the most controversial ones as well! |
Posted By: Hawk Eye
Date Posted: 26 March 2006 at 9:33am
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i totally agree with the above, the only similarity bhaje has with murali is that they were both accused of chucking..........! otherwise murali is ranked way above bhajees and kumble's and can only be compared with all time great spinners like shane warn or abdul qadir. ------------- Proud to be Pakistani ! |
Posted By: warnester
Date Posted: 26 March 2006 at 11:31am
| i said forget the records and count it on one on one, now,forget your memories of murali or harbhi, just one on one. stil i think murali would just nick it but it would be closer. |
Posted By: minimurali
Date Posted: 26 March 2006 at 11:33am
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I thought you voted for bhaji bhaji boom though warnester? ------------- County Sim on extended break until I've got less work and more free time. When I have a specific date, I'll post it in the thread. |
Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 26 March 2006 at 11:35am
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hawk eye kumble is up the there with the spin greats ------------- Check out my blog http://crictopia.blogspot.com/ pretty bad though... |
Posted By: warnester
Date Posted: 26 March 2006 at 11:43am
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do i have a choice? |
Posted By: jumbo
Date Posted: 26 March 2006 at 11:57am
| of course kumble is there among the greats. but miniwarney is sure to disagree with us AK . |
Posted By: wiseguy
Date Posted: 27 March 2006 at 7:03am
| I would never rate Kumble upthere, with 500 wickets he deserves a mention, but some how whenever spin greats will be recalled his name would be way down, why , I can't say? |
Posted By: Hawk Eye
Date Posted: 27 March 2006 at 7:06am
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No I don't think so.............................! ------------- Proud to be Pakistani ! |
Posted By: wiseguy
Date Posted: 27 March 2006 at 8:28am
| Hawk eye you are so dumb, just start thinking! |
Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 27 March 2006 at 10:39am
He is one of the most successful bowlers in history and only the 4th man to get 500 wickets and one of a few Indians to get to that magic milestone of 100 tests. Ability wise he is not a great bowlers, he is efficient and uses clever changes of pace , flight and bounce to get wickets..rather then spin, drift and guile.
He is not a great spinner (the term spinner in use, he CAN barely spin the ball)
He is a wonderful BOWLER and innovative but not a great spinner no.
He is still in my books a guy you would want in your side and he complements Harbajhan beautifully with the OFF SPIN - LEG CUT combo. ------------- |
Posted By: DRAVID FAN
Date Posted: 27 March 2006 at 11:46pm
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How did Bhajji even come that close. I thoght that he would lose with 0 votes. The stupidest thread ever produced in the history of the Earth. It's like comparing Bradman to Mohammed Yousuf. I know that Tousuf is one of the grat batsman of today but still guys come on even Tendulkar is nothing compared to Bradman. I know that you meant one on one warnester, but still Murlitharan spins the ball more has more variation. ------------- |
Posted By: $uNnY
Date Posted: 28 March 2006 at 12:31am
Murali
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Posted By: muhammad-q
Date Posted: 28 March 2006 at 3:39am
| man they r both cool..murli can spin the ball more...but then harbi uses his herbi powers..n comes backk..but i think murlis better |
Posted By: masterblaster
Date Posted: 28 March 2006 at 5:30am
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biggest bowl of bull**** i have ever heard what the heck is the herbi power?????? we are not talking abt who is cooler we are talkin about who is a better spinner... ------------- AUSSIE RULESSS!!! WE GOT THE WORLD CUP AGAIN NEXT YEAR!!! |
Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 28 March 2006 at 6:19am
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whats up with you ------------- Check out my blog http://crictopia.blogspot.com/ pretty bad though... |