Andrew Symonds
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Topic: Andrew Symonds
Posted By: dips_december
Subject: Andrew Symonds
Date Posted: 18 April 2006 at 6:06am
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With the kind of technique roy has i don't think roy can be as good a test player as he is in ODI's
I want your thoughts I hope no previous threads on this topic have been made if so i am sorry |
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Posted By: mazzybabe.uk
Date Posted: 18 April 2006 at 12:28pm
| if he could some how learn to play at a good tempo and not be so 2 paced then maybe but as far as bowling's concerned no way he can't bowl spin in the australian side and his medium pacers are far too slow to make him bowl first change which is what the aussies want went they talked about an all rounder |
Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 18 April 2006 at 12:32pm
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Pollock opens the bowling and he seldom gets it over 130kph...
Symonds is brillaint alll round,,but. ------------- |
Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 18 April 2006 at 12:34pm
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i think it's too late now if he was 22 or something he should go in pura cup get's some form or county cricket but he's not he's 30.I think he's capable of hitting a big score in test cricket he can play at a slow tempo he made 9 from 51 against the west indies he just wanted to prove he can play test cricket then since he wasnt scoring he decided to go bang bang he's more confident but his shots are too risky i think 49% of what i just said makes no sense ------------- Check out my blog http://crictopia.blogspot.com/ pretty bad though... |
Posted By: crownmethod
Date Posted: 18 April 2006 at 1:39pm
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He can never be a good test player because the only way he can score runs is by slogging, he doesn't know how to protect his wicket. And thats not how you play test cricket..... ------------- |
Posted By: eddyc_solid
Date Posted: 18 April 2006 at 2:41pm
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rubbish rubbish ------------- The robbed that smiles steals something from the thief. |
Posted By: eddyc_solid
Date Posted: 18 April 2006 at 2:43pm
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all symonds shots are good cricket shots with brutal force i htink he has just lacked confidence because many ppl are saying how he should play ------------- The robbed that smiles steals something from the thief. |
Posted By: eddyc_solid
Date Posted: 18 April 2006 at 2:45pm
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there is no doubt if he was good behind the stumps gilly would not be in the test team right now ------------- The robbed that smiles steals something from the thief. |
Posted By: Clapo
Date Posted: 18 April 2006 at 2:58pm
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What a load of crap!!! Gilly is a far better batsmen.... His statistics prove it as well... He is also far more consistent than symonds, and his form slump (which is hopefully now over) since the ashes has been the only slump in his entire test career.... ------------- 5-0 You Beauty!!!!! Thanks for the many fantastic memories Marto, Langer, Warney & Pidg |
Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 18 April 2006 at 3:05pm
Eddy put your comments into a single thread please!! Three successive entries is nothing short of silly , the number of posts one acquires means zilch , it's the content! ------------- Mental disintegration works for me !! |
Posted By: mazzybabe.uk
Date Posted: 18 April 2006 at 4:31pm
| There's no use saying what if eddyc the fact is andrew symonds is not a wicket keeper and he's not a good enough bowler to be an allrounder in test cricket. |
Posted By: eddyc_solid
Date Posted: 19 April 2006 at 1:39am
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sorry guys ------------- The robbed that smiles steals something from the thief. |
Posted By: lost_mullet
Date Posted: 19 April 2006 at 2:37am
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well david boon on an interview on the cricket show said they picked him for a batsmen who can bowl while the main bowlers have a rest. He can bat and doesnt need to slog, the innings he played of 151 at the scg the 1st 100 runs werent slogging and he was smashing drives and cuts alround the ground, and then he got the next 50 of like 20 odd balls ------------- cmon aussie cmon |
Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 19 April 2006 at 6:05am
Which answers the question perfectly , he ISN'T a genuine allrounder. The definition of an allrounder is a player who can hold down a place in the side utilising either his batting or bowling - that just about sums up Freddie. ------------- Mental disintegration works for me !! |
Posted By: lost_mullet
Date Posted: 19 April 2006 at 7:03am
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Yes he isn't genuine alrounder but is a awesome batter to watch and can control his darts and moves the ball both ways. He is test match material but shouldnt be in the team because australia is better than that. ------------- cmon aussie cmon |
Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 19 April 2006 at 7:16am
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Fair enough mate , there is plenty of competition for a batsman that can bowl a bit and nip one or two out. Clarke's the obvious choice and there's backing for Shane Watson too.
No doubt that Symonds , when on song , gives it a fearful whack and can turn a game on it's head. Just maybe he's made the side of late because Gilchrist really hasn't been firing. Now he is scoring freely again , the selectors will decide they don't need a biffer at 6. ------------- Mental disintegration works for me !! |
Posted By: lost_mullet
Date Posted: 19 April 2006 at 7:17am
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yer true, Id like to see him in the side while performing thoughh. ------------- cmon aussie cmon |
Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 19 April 2006 at 7:31am
Flintoff probably would miss out in the England side if he couldn't bowl.. HIs batting is very good but his conversion rate of 50s to 100s is poor. ------------- |
Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 19 April 2006 at 7:34am
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Maybe so Mik , but if he didn't get flogged in the field , he might just have enough energy to get to three figures more often! ------------- Mental disintegration works for me !! |
Posted By: MiNiWaRnEy
Date Posted: 19 April 2006 at 7:37am
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True true, if he focused on 1 discipline he would definately make it. But he is a complete cricketer, his batting holds down the no.6 spot respectively and his bowling is worthy of new ball honours or 1st change. ------------- |
Posted By: lost_mullet
Date Posted: 19 April 2006 at 7:39am
its amazing how a post always turns into something other the topic ------------- cmon aussie cmon |
Posted By: eddyc_solid
Date Posted: 20 April 2006 at 4:25am
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Does anyone here give Symonds a chance of wearing baggygreen again.He is still 30 which is reasonable so when the older guys retire their must be a spot for him. ------------- The robbed that smiles steals something from the thief. |
Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 20 April 2006 at 5:48am
Don't discount it Eddy , he's not on the scrapheap just yet! If Dizzy can score 201* , then Symonds is capable of taking 10 wickets in an innings!!! ------------- Mental disintegration works for me !! |
Posted By: eddyc_solid
Date Posted: 20 April 2006 at 7:10am
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I think Symonds would have excelled on these flat tracks just look what rafique did to the spinners symonds would have smashed 300+ ------------- The robbed that smiles steals something from the thief. |
Posted By: cricket_mstr
Date Posted: 20 April 2006 at 11:58am
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This was the only test series where I would have Symonds, They wanted an extra bowler to ('try out' I guess"). Australia don't really need an alrounder, someone like Gillespie or Lee as a night watchman is a good idea You have the big hitting Lee and Defensive Gillespie which are good cards to play towards the end of a day of play. But Symonds is missing two qualities, a defensive play and a good bowler. ------------- Cricket watcher but tennis player :) |
Posted By: eddyc_solid
Date Posted: 20 April 2006 at 12:08pm
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But sometimes lee is very poor and gillespie has a low strike rate but is a proven himselft with the bat. ------------- The robbed that smiles steals something from the thief. |
Posted By: lost_mullet
Date Posted: 20 April 2006 at 1:14pm
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i reckon he needs to earn another chance in first class, then perform which he has the ability to do ------------- cmon aussie cmon |
Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 20 April 2006 at 1:43pm
Nawwwww , you keep playing with only 4 bowlers and at the end of the year , you'll see a problem.
Blimey , not much left if he misses a straight one then!! ------------- Mental disintegration works for me !! |
Posted By: eddyc_solid
Date Posted: 20 April 2006 at 2:30pm
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Symonds is playing for lancashire right? ------------- The robbed that smiles steals something from the thief. |
Posted By: lost_mullet
Date Posted: 21 April 2006 at 11:44am
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i don't know, but i know he has a defence, thats why his got such a low strike rate and has only got out slogging 3 times, twice when he has been over 50 and in his 1st test stumped off murali. Atleast he was looking to score ------------- cmon aussie cmon |
Posted By: cricket_mstr
Date Posted: 21 April 2006 at 11:58am
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Symonds just can't make the right decisions in test cricket, he doesn't know whether to slog or block ------------- Cricket watcher but tennis player :) |
Posted By: eddyc_solid
Date Posted: 21 April 2006 at 12:31pm
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he definately looked uneasy against ntini thats for sure ------------- The robbed that smiles steals something from the thief. |
Posted By: mazzybabe.uk
Date Posted: 21 April 2006 at 2:56pm
maybe cos ntini got him on the grill splitting his lip 
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Posted By: lost_mullet
Date Posted: 21 April 2006 at 2:59pm
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ntini was bowling very well and was getting it to move alot, any player should have had diffulculties but he got himself in a hole by always going across and getting stuck on the crease. If u look at his record lbw isn't his most often dismisall so that explains how different his playing. ------------- cmon aussie cmon |
Posted By: eddyc_solid
Date Posted: 21 April 2006 at 3:03pm
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id prfer he get out playing an attacking shot than getting pinned on the crease all the time like he does in test ------------- The robbed that smiles steals something from the thief. |
Posted By: lost_mullet
Date Posted: 21 April 2006 at 3:07pm
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yer same here, atleast he will get out playing a shot. ------------- cmon aussie cmon |
Posted By: CHAKA!
Date Posted: 21 April 2006 at 3:10pm
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symonds has not been able to adjust to test cricket because his such an attacking player and you can't just play attacking cricket all the time in test cricket ------------- KISS-KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID! |
Posted By: lost_mullet
Date Posted: 21 April 2006 at 3:14pm
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that makes no sense at all clobber, he has been getting out defending because he thinks your not allowed to attack in tests basically. ------------- cmon aussie cmon |
Posted By: Clobber
Date Posted: 21 April 2006 at 3:17pm
ummm...WHAT? I haven't even posted in this thread |
Posted By: eddyc_solid
Date Posted: 21 April 2006 at 3:18pm
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Gilchrist,afridi thats all they ever do is attack ------------- The robbed that smiles steals something from the thief. |
Posted By: lost_mullet
Date Posted: 21 April 2006 at 3:21pm
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woops sorry (Very funny) i meant chaka sorry alot i got confused ------------- cmon aussie cmon |
Posted By: CHAKA!
Date Posted: 21 April 2006 at 3:48pm
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what about the last test the aussies played against sa where symonds made i think 29 of about 25 balls he was being attacking there. ------------- KISS-KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID! |
Posted By: eddyc_solid
Date Posted: 21 April 2006 at 4:04pm
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he was playing very well too,how did he get out again? ------------- The robbed that smiles steals something from the thief. |
Posted By: Clobber
Date Posted: 21 April 2006 at 4:09pm
| didn't he hit one straight up in the air? |
Posted By: eddyc_solid
Date Posted: 21 April 2006 at 4:10pm
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caught by boje i think ------------- The robbed that smiles steals something from the thief. |
Posted By: Jyothika
Date Posted: 21 April 2006 at 6:24pm
Yep, i agree. But, i think if he did know, he'd make a very good test player. |
Posted By: daisy77
Date Posted: 22 April 2006 at 12:53am
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It is possible for him to adjust for test cricket. He might have to change his technique a bit though since he is such an attacking player. ------------- |
Posted By: tonkingtommo
Date Posted: 18 April 2007 at 9:38am
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andrew symonds is a legend not a good test player did any of u guys see that 150!!! ------------- andrew symonds is a dead set legend! |
Posted By: Clobber
Date Posted: 18 April 2007 at 9:53am
| Did you see who it was against??? |
Posted By: schmo
Date Posted: 18 April 2007 at 10:03am
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What was said earlier was right, a true all rounder will be in a side for either their batting or bowling. Symonds is more than capable in ODIs in the batting side of things, and his fielding has to be worth 10 runs a game, and his multidimentional bowling is another asset to his limited overs game. In the test arena however, Australia are blessed with so much talent that players like Roy find it had to cement a place in the side because there is always pressure on the from other players. As far as a test all rounder goes, I dont think Symonds could hold a place as a straight batsman or bowler, but he provides another side with his fielding it must not be forgotten. Say Australia field for 180 overs in a test, I have already said he would save 10 runs a game on a ODI, so in 180 over he may be saving 30-40 runs in the field. Add this onto his batting and his bowling and suddenly it looks alot better. Also the Australian team also speaks so highly of him when he does come into a team, they always say he lifts the team with his sense of humour. In conclusion, as a ODI all rounder, I don't think anyone here wouldn't have Symonds in the Australian side, but as a test player, he can't hold his place with a single facet of his game, but the 3 facets he does bring to the team makes him a more than worthy replacement for an injured player.
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Posted By: sammythola7
Date Posted: 17 May 2007 at 11:08am
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Symonds is a fantastic all-rounder, maybe a bit dotchy in Tests, but a good asset to Australian agression. ------------- Your Fear in a snake is your faith in the snake's ability to bite you. |
Posted By: Bettis91
Date Posted: 11 June 2007 at 4:31pm
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hey should only be in one day because he is a big hitter and can bowl good as well ------------- Let's Get Down To Business |
Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 12 June 2007 at 1:40am
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He is very vital to their ODI side but he is a waste to Aussie test side. There are many better than him who are waiting for e.g, Hodge - ever heard of a man making a ton and getting drop in the next match. ------------- In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage. |
Posted By: MP12
Date Posted: 12 June 2007 at 6:31am
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He actually made a double century! I don't think the selectors have the guts to drop Symonds unless he doesn't preform! ------------- |
Posted By: tonks007
Date Posted: 14 June 2007 at 2:25am
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Well, in my opinion, Symonds is a much better asset to the Australian test side than Watson, yet, Watson will walk into the side and Symonds cant hold his spot??? Symonds is a better bowler, batsman, fielder, all round cricketer and if it was up to me, Watson wouldnt even be carrying the drinks for Australia! Symonds should be a definate starter along with Hodge. ------------- even the sun shines on a dogs ass some days |
Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 14 June 2007 at 3:00am
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Can't help but agreeing with you mate! ------------- In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage. |
Posted By: garrywarne
Date Posted: 15 November 2007 at 8:59am
If watson didn't get injured every time he movers his arms I would disagree with you but seeing he does I do agree with you, but i do have doubts over Roy in tests. |
Posted By: spin wizard
Date Posted: 16 November 2007 at 2:34am
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Injured or not, Watson is pretty ordinary compare to the other Aussie boys! ------------- In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage. |
Posted By: garrywarne
Date Posted: 18 November 2007 at 8:27am
I beg to differ. |
Posted By: 143no
Date Posted: 18 November 2007 at 11:11am
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We are talking ability garry, not looks. ------------- Monkey see, Monkey do. |
Posted By: cricketluva
Date Posted: 18 November 2007 at 9:30pm
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Jeez pulling up old threads. ------------- See you later Gilly! Thanks for the memories! |
Posted By: bondy
Date Posted: 18 November 2007 at 9:46pm
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there's nothing wrong with it if the individual has something decent to add, or a development in the case, ect.
------------- Good one Graham! |
Posted By: garrywarne
Date Posted: 19 November 2007 at 5:44am
So am I he's accurate, he averages nearly 50 with the bat in FC and can bowl att speeds of up to 140kph I don't see anyhting wrong with it. |
Posted By: samhache
Date Posted: 19 November 2007 at 6:31am
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Thats crap, Watson is nothing compared to Symonds. ------------- Warriors!! |
Posted By: canadiancricket
Date Posted: 19 November 2007 at 7:20am
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Watson is nowhere near Symonds. Symonds is one of the most important member of the australian side while Watson is not even in reckoning. The fact that he was taken to World cup while he hadn't recovered shows how vital he is to the australian team. Why didn't you use international stats. First class is totally different. |
Posted By: samhache
Date Posted: 19 November 2007 at 7:29am
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Spot on CC. Lets just hope Garry gets our drift. ------------- Warriors!! |
Posted By: garrywarne
Date Posted: 19 November 2007 at 7:26pm
We're talking tests not ODI. |
Posted By: bondy
Date Posted: 19 November 2007 at 8:17pm
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Yet Watson has only proved just as useless at both- and symonds a rare find. ------------- Good one Graham! |
Posted By: canadiancricket
Date Posted: 19 November 2007 at 8:49pm
| Watson in tests. I feel like laughing now. SL would have loved if Watson played instead of Symonds. |
Posted By: samhache
Date Posted: 21 November 2007 at 4:26am
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Symonds is still better Gazza. He is a genuine allrounder - Bowls, Bats and fields.
Maybe you should phone up the Aussie selectors and inform them of your opinion, I'm sure they'd listen with intent. ------------- Warriors!! |
Posted By: canadiancricket
Date Posted: 21 November 2007 at 4:29am
| Is it directed at me Sam |
Posted By: samhache
Date Posted: 21 November 2007 at 7:32am
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haha no, that was directed at my friend Garrywarne. ------------- Warriors!! |
Posted By: BruceDidgeridoo
Date Posted: 21 August 2008 at 12:02pm
well said mate
Symmo is a gun
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Posted By: bladescape
Date Posted: 21 August 2008 at 12:49pm
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Symonds is a good ODI player,but Watson has the raw ability to overtake Symmo in the test arena. ------------- You know, I'm trying to decide whether to change my siggy or not... |
Posted By: Colly92
Date Posted: 21 August 2008 at 2:18pm
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Definatly better in ODI's and 20/20, But not quiet as good in tests. In general though, he's a great all-round cricketer. ------------- |
Posted By: young shiv
Date Posted: 27 December 2008 at 9:03pm
i got to agree with u
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