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Forum Name: Cricket World Ratings
Forum Discription: Who is the Most Valuable Player?
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Topic: who is Better?
Posted By: dips_december
Subject: who is Better?
Date Posted: 23 April 2006 at 9:48am
My choice Matthew Hayden. Can somene inform me as to why he was dropped i know he was in bad form but he didn't fail miserably in the ODI's in England ,did he?I remember him getting a 46 against Bangladesh during England's summer before the ASHES and he even got a 50 didn't he?



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Posted By: nottsjoe
Date Posted: 23 April 2006 at 10:04am
There is no doubt that Hayden is world class i think perhaps they are looking to the future

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Great start Notts keep it up!!!


Posted By: jumbo
Date Posted: 23 April 2006 at 10:07am
of course its hayden. he is a proven performer and has played some very good knocks. but as nottsjoe said they might be looking towards the future


Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 23 April 2006 at 10:21am
Katich in ODI's but Hayden in both forms of the game but Katich my favourite outta them 3, I don't know why Hayden isin't playing ODI's anymore he's very good


Posted By: crownmethod
Date Posted: 23 April 2006 at 10:33am
Of course Phil Jaques. Hayden is old, and Katich scores too slowly

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Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 23 April 2006 at 10:38am
so what if Hayden is old he still has class hes constantly scoring centuries every 2 tests while Jaques is a good player but cant perform under the big stage 2,30,66 and that 66 was against bangladesh.


Posted By: eddyc_solid
Date Posted: 23 April 2006 at 1:06pm
i am a simon katich fan i think he is a good player and i rate him highly

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The robbed that smiles steals something from the thief.


Posted By: darlo_lad
Date Posted: 24 April 2006 at 8:56am

Hayden by a country mile. Class act, could quite easily take apart any attack in the world and is now starting to build big innings instead of just going out and hitting it hard and getting out.



Posted By: mazzybabe.uk
Date Posted: 24 April 2006 at 1:10pm
What about Mike Hussey he must be given a chance


Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 24 April 2006 at 1:19pm
he has the job of ressurecting their innings and making crucial and vital partnerships of the loworder and I think he is the best at doing that in the game in both forms Te'sts and ODI's


Posted By: mazzybabe.uk
Date Posted: 25 April 2006 at 12:26pm
he can do that opening as well

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The First Century I ever saw was Heschelle Gibbs' 228 against Pakistan


Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 25 April 2006 at 1:33pm
Originally posted by ANIL KUMBLE

so what if Hayden is old he still has class hes constantly scoring centuries every 2 tests ....


AK , stop this crap!!! Bradman scored a ton about every 6th knock , truly amazing batting , Hayden doesn't come close , nevermind every 4th knock!!!

Valium should come free with reading so much drivel.



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Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 25 April 2006 at 1:37pm
what crap since the 5th test of the ashes Hayden has been averaging a century every 3 or 4 innings.

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Posted By: Sledger
Date Posted: 25 April 2006 at 1:54pm
That's not what your post said !!!

Get to grips with the English language or I'll keep pulling you up!

...and less of the , show respect to those who know better.

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Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 25 April 2006 at 1:56pm

Okay i'm sorry,but what's wrong with my english



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Posted By: crownmethod
Date Posted: 27 April 2006 at 10:38am
Jaques is a scores faster than both Hayden and Katich. Hayden is capable of scoring bigger scores than Jacques(but does not score faster than Jacques) , but like I said earlier Hayden is getting too old! So it would have to be Jaques! Jaques is like another Adam Gilchrist! So Jaqcues would have to bat with Gilly. If Jaques batted with Gilly, I can guarantee you that Australia will score 500 in a one-day match.

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Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 27 April 2006 at 10:44am
that is a load of  rubbish and you expect them to last 50 overs togethern both scoring 250,jaques is not as aggresive as gilchrist

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Posted By: crownmethod
Date Posted: 27 April 2006 at 10:47am
I can say that your English is really bad. I did not say that Gilchrist and Jacques will last 50 overs. If you read carefully in this sentence: If Jaques batted with Gilly, I can guarantee you that Australia will score 500 in a one-day match. That does not mean Gilchrist and Jacques will last 50 overs and score 250 each.



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Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 27 April 2006 at 10:52am

then what do you expect them to make



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Posted By: crownmethod
Date Posted: 27 April 2006 at 11:00am
'them' meaning Australia, not Jaques and Gilchrist. With the support of Ponting, Hussey, Symonds, Martyn and Clarke.

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Posted By: dhonifan
Date Posted: 27 April 2006 at 11:04am
I think Jaques.


Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 27 April 2006 at 11:07am

it pretty much means that you think they'll make 500 with or without jaques and thats not gonna happen ask anyone if thats possible and they'll say no



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Posted By: crownmethod
Date Posted: 27 April 2006 at 11:19am

Australia will NOT make 500 if they don't have Jaques.

Australia will MAKE 500 if they have Jaques in their team(and all the other members of the Australian team)

There, that clears everything up doesn't it? Because I don't understand the rubblish you are saying.



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Posted By: ANIL KUMBLE
Date Posted: 27 April 2006 at 11:24am
well australia with or without jaques wont score 500 is that clear

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Posted By: eddyc_solid
Date Posted: 27 April 2006 at 11:31am
I cant see why Katich was dropped he has a very good record with an average of 37+ that is very decent.I personally think Langer is overated and is way past his best the selctors ahve stuck with him for far to long.

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The robbed that smiles steals something from the thief.


Posted By: darlo_lad
Date Posted: 27 April 2006 at 12:24pm
Katich being dropped in my opinion was due to the likes of Hussey and co doing a great job. He is a great player, but would you not rather have Hussey in your side?


Posted By: mazzybabe.uk
Date Posted: 27 April 2006 at 1:06pm
Katich is the most conservative and he frequently rescued Australia in the Ashes get him in get Martyn out. Get him out of the odi side though far to slow  like I said Hussey to open free up a space in the middle order and Australia have many a middle order batsmen. Maybe Watson could get his place back. Who knows the options are limitless 

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The First Century I ever saw was Heschelle Gibbs' 228 against Pakistan


Posted By: cricket_mstr
Date Posted: 27 April 2006 at 1:53pm

There is no way Katich is better than a David Hussey or Brad Hodge, Katich is one of the players who did pathetic in the last 4 tests of the 05 Ashes

Katich will get slaughtered in the World Cup, Australia can't ignore the fact that there is a Gilchrist equal in Phil Jaques. Watching him bat in Bangladesh was awesome, all he needs is to get rid of those early game jitters.

Jaques should be in the ODI side against Bangladesh, get him some experience

 

 



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Posted By: Top Cat
Date Posted: 13 May 2006 at 11:01am
In my opinion it is jaques,

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Posted By: zaikpioneer
Date Posted: 13 May 2006 at 12:29pm
of course Mathew Hyden who can forget his century against Pakistan in nerobi 144

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M ASIF:
What a fine find for Pakistani future and what destruction for other teamz?
ok


Posted By: razzaq_fan
Date Posted: 13 May 2006 at 5:34pm
i think its hayden because of his experience and he has proven time and time again that he can bat the man is a class act.

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Posted By: wccc
Date Posted: 22 May 2006 at 4:47pm

jaques because hes great for getting quick runs

example vs. surrey



Posted By: Top Cat
Date Posted: 22 May 2006 at 8:24pm

Next centuries for jaques!

V Glamorgan

V Northants

V Derbyshire



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Posted By: wccc
Date Posted: 22 May 2006 at 8:41pm
yeah


Posted By: cricket_mstr
Date Posted: 23 May 2006 at 4:01am

That was a quick century he got. Off around 70 balls with 14 fours



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Posted By: dips_december
Date Posted: 23 May 2006 at 9:45am
I forgot that i made such a post ,Hayden far better than Jaques

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Posted By: wccc
Date Posted: 24 May 2006 at 5:20pm
no way dips


Posted By: Top Cat
Date Posted: 24 May 2006 at 8:39pm
No way Jacques is the best

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Posted By: wccc
Date Posted: 24 May 2006 at 9:30pm
a great player especially for an aussie


Posted By: Top Cat
Date Posted: 26 May 2006 at 7:05pm
The right mans winning!

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Posted By: slogger72N/O
Date Posted: 14 June 2006 at 7:17am
Hayden is better, but he won't be around forever so Australia have to look into the future

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Posted By: dips_december
Date Posted: 14 June 2006 at 1:45pm
Originally posted by wccc

no way dips

what no way he has done it for so many years and one bad series does not mean he should be dropped

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Posted By: slogger72N/O
Date Posted: 25 June 2006 at 12:38pm
I think Hayden should be kept in the squad for another year or so, before he finall steps down.

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Posted By: Jacob Oram Fan
Date Posted: 14 June 2008 at 6:25pm
You cant compare Hayden with this mediocricy chief.



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